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Benjamin
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Burnsy
I'm a little confused, maybe what you said appears to be off topic... does this mean you are against file sharing?
I download other people's work all the time to watch movies etc and to save my own pocket?
Doesn't anyone else do this too? Maybe I'm reading your post wrong, and if so, I apologise...
I'm just pointing out that he's a hypocrite.
Wow! You really don't want people to see you for what you are, do you? You desperately need others to tell you that what you are is OK.
And you might from time to time. The world has no shortage of cowards. You tend to find others that will group around you, and they have similar shortcomings...kinda like...what's that word?...Oh, yeah. RATS!!!:lol:
Edit- How is it that you think all acts have equal moral value? Is downloading a song or a movie anywhere nearly as caustic as sending someone else to jail for a crime that you have committed? It's not even close.
You have already stated that you do not understand my writing, but perhaps you can have an adult sit down with you at bedtime and he/she can read you some of my other posts. Go back far enough and you will find my defense for the sharing of information. As someone else pointed out, it is a victimless crime. Actually, more of a misdemeanor.
But that is really just a weak attempt at misdirection.
As for having someone else serve your jail time- that is a whole different level. One of cowardice and immaturity.
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Intr4ns1t
In my personal experience, I have found myself in that situation when I was younger. Instead of ratting out the people the police wanted me to rat out, I TOOK RESPONSIBILITY FOR MY OWN ACTIONS. I did a healthy bit of county jail time in fact and about 10x what they offered me for a plea bargain. I thank the stars I got that out of the way when I was young enough to escape prison time.
To each his own, if they were asking you to snitch out someone you didn't care about, I will never understand that.
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Intr4ns1t
I will give you props for admitting to yourself that you lack the moral fiber to own up to your own mistakes, but as we are not talking about family matters, but criminal matters
I was talking about criminal matters when I mentioned my friends/family, I would never snitch on them.
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Intr4ns1t
It is quite presumptuous though to presume that the vast majority that you imply would also just as freely and without thought snitch on someone else to save their own ass.
If you take away the 'fear of retaliation' part, most people would. I'm not trying to presume anything, it's happening every day.
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Intr4ns1t
It is the ultimate betrayal and abhorrent in virtually every culture. You have to wonder why that is don't you?
That way of thinking was started by criminals who wanted to make it harder for police to catch them.
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megabyteme
Wow! You really don't want people to see you for what you are, do you? You desperately need others to tell you that what you are is OK.
And you might from time to time. The world has no shortage of cowards. You tend to find others that will group around you, and they have similar shortcomings...kinda like...what's that word?...Oh, yeah. RATS!!!:lol:
You can continue with the name calling, it really doesn't help your argument.
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megabyteme
Edit- How is it that you think all acts have equal moral value? Is downloading a song or a movie anywhere nearly as caustic as sending someone else to jail for a crime that you have committed? It's not even close.
If you want to talk morals, you have to be congruent with yourself. The different moral value is irrelevant.
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megabyteme
You have already stated that you do not understand my writing, but perhaps you can have an adult sit down with you at bedtime and he/she can read you some of my other posts. Go back far enough and you will find my defense for the sharing of information. As someone else pointed out, it is a victimless crime. Actually, more of a misdemeanor.
Several people on this forum have caught on to your posts and called you "slow" or "dumb" in the past, it's not just me. Think that through.
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But that is really just a weak attempt at misdirection.
It wasn't misdirection, it is completely relevant to the topic.
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megabyteme
As for having someone else serve your jail time- that is a whole different level. One of cowardice and immaturity.
If someone snitches another person out to the police, that person will do their own jail time for their own crime. Cowardice involves fear, if someone doesn't feel like spending years of their life in a prison cell, I wouldn't call that fear. As for immaturity, let's put that one under the long list you have of nonsense.
I can say some people who don't snitch are cowards though, and it's very true.
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Benjamin, you sound like a 19 year old. What is your age?
You also come across as a loud mouth with no real education to back up your "arguments". Please enlighten us on your formal education.
As for your ability to understand my arguments- I converse with PhDs weekly. They have no difficulty understanding me in person or in my papers. Neither do the other graduate students I come across. I think the difficulties are on your end.
Edit- Where are you going with your "argument", BTW? I seriously doubt I will talk you into finding reasons to not fuck people over and you are not going to successfully talk me into being a scumbag.
I call you names because you make my skin crawl. There really is no reason to be civil to you.
I already said I wouldn't have anything to do with you IRL. Why would I want to continue to talking to you here?
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Age and education are irrelevant, and I think it's an absolute joke that you think "conversing with PhDs weekly" is something. You can stop responding to my posts anytime you want, but it will be because you have nothing of value to say.
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Benjamin
Age and education are irrelevant, and I think it's an absolute joke that you think "conversing with PhDs weekly" is something. You can stop responding to my posts anytime you want, but it will be because you have nothing of value to say.
I just wanted to capture this. :lol:
As for your argument (whatever it is) is pointless. You have identified yourself as a low-life, turn on anyone (who is not a "friend") to save your own ass, cops' bitch.
It would be impossible for anyone to defeat you any more than that. :01:
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megabyteme
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Originally Posted by
Benjamin
Age and education are irrelevant, and I think it's an absolute joke that you think "conversing with PhDs weekly" is something. You can stop responding to my posts anytime you want, but it will be because you have nothing of value to say.
I just wanted to capture this. :lol:
As for your argument (whatever it is) is pointless. You have identified yourself as a low-life, turn on anyone (who is not a "friend") to save your own ass, cops' bitch.
It would be impossible for anyone to defeat you any more than that. :01:
You have proved to be a very intelligent person. [/sarcasm]
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Benjamin
You have proved proven to be a very intelligent person.
Why thanks, Benny. I still think you are a punk bitch.:happy:
In all seriousness, my inability to make you into a decent human being should not reflect on me. I did what I could, but I am sure someone will eventually get screwed over by you. I wish them all the best in their vengeance.:dry:
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lol at the drama
In all Honesty I think benjamin does have a point(aside from the theatrics).I don't think that he is implying that he'd rat on people nicknames (useless information without IPs and RL details) just for the heck of it or to save his own ass for that matter.
There haven't been that many P2P busts but from the few that have been there,its clear that people do indeed talk(I mean lets be real here),take OiNK for example,I think almost all the staffers eventually got arrested but as of now,none of them is in for anything serious.Some sole ranger on the other hand just got fined ~$2 million for some 24 low quality 128kbps mp3s.
Don't ask me how but there is just something about number and co-operation.
Look at the scene as well,the moment a group gets busted,it doesn't matter how gangsta it was or how long its been around but within hours,BNCs get changed.I dunno if that's taking care of each other but I like to think its so(i.e you are at liberty to co-operate if you want).
Look at RNS as well,I think all of them got arrested(co-operation and talking) and if recall correctly they supplied over 25,000 album copies over the years yet you hear that none of them is going to get anything past 5 years nor fines exceeding 250 grand.Now imagine if someone got indicted in such a mass piracy case and refused to talk,how do y'all think family or a RL jury would receive him/her?
Why do a quarter century yet you have an option to distribute it around such that each person does 5years?
That's much more logical and kinda has that brotherhood gangsta touch as well :P.
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sez
I mean lets be real here
megabyteme doesn't seem to understand that concept.
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megabyteme, don't you consider your full-on tedious assault upon Benjamin to be somewhat pointless, given that every word posted in this thread falls firmly into the cantons of hypotheticals?
You're lynching him upon things he's never done and likely never will.
Perhaps you're too consumed with your philosophy papers to clearly see straight.
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Benjamin
I am man enough to admit what my real action would be under different situations, I don't hide myself behind fake ethical talk like you do.
I think I'm man enough to admit that I feel like a girl :lol: (wut?)
I finally took the time to read through this thread and wow... I'm surprised at the things you guys have gone through. For christs sake, I feel bad when I throw my bottle in the trash can rather than in the recycling. Perhaps that's from the hippy town I've been raised in and grown to love. I think if I did anything that even hinted of the cops my Asian parents would outcast me for life.
One question I would like to raise, perhaps more toward the original topic: why would the cops care if the "snitch" admitted he got the DVD's from the UKT? First off, there are thousands of brainless idiots that could get pirated material off Google, let alone one of the most low key private trackers out there. Thousands of people pirate and sell DVD's everyday, and UKT has absolutely nothing to do with it. Most of this originates from the scene, and torrent sites have absolutely nothing in common with DVD counterfeiters. There are thousands of counterfeiters and the scene seems to be the source of movies making it to the market: why bother with a insignificant torrent site?
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chalice
megabyteme, don't you consider your full-on tedious assault upon Benjamin to be somewhat pointless, given that every word posted in this thread falls firmly into the cantons of hypotheticals?
You're lynching him upon things he's never done and likely never will.
Perhaps you're too consumed with your philosophy papers to clearly see straight.
Yep it's hypothetical here. So are a lot of our discussions. My problem with it (Benny) stems from its attempts at making snitching acceptable. We have seen others with the same leanings.
If you are already willing to bend over in a hypothetical discussion how much of a complete ball-sucking bitch will they become in a real-life situation?:O
It's gotta go something like this scene from The Girl Next Door. Where Benny is the porn slut. http://video.aol.ca/video-detail/eli...id=VIDURVMOV04
I am also deviating from my normal, mostly polite style to emphasize how some of us think about its kind. I would not piss on it if it were on fire. In fact, I'd go to the store and buy marshmallows and hope it was still screaming in pain and burning when I returned.
As for sez's comment, it would be a different concept all together if snitching meant "sharing the blame equally". That is not the case. The snitch gets off light and the ones snitched on get extended sentences that they would not have had because the cops did not have sufficient evidence to give them those charges or sentences. Snitches really fuck people over.
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snitching may be acceptable if you're not the only responsible though.
why would you take responsability for other's actions besides yours?
would you spend a xx months sentence just for being proud to say "i'm not a rat"?
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What it boils down to I guess is "Personal beliefs". Some people believe that snitching is ok in certain circumstances, and some believe that it's never ok.
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Good point. Is like someone bringing you their car and asking you to fix it. You get pulled over driving it back to the person or test driving it and it was a stolen car or whatever. Depending on the relationship you have with the person, would you tell the truth, give a name or man up and take the hit?
There a thin line in every scenario.
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cinephilia
snitching may be acceptable if you're not the only responsible though.
why would you take responsability for other's actions besides yours?
would you spend a xx months sentence just for being proud to say "i'm not a rat"?
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I think there is some confusion on the actual definition of the word "snitch".
Webster's definition of "snitch" here .
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Noun 1. snitch - someone acting as an informer or decoy for the police.
The accurate use of the word "snitch" has to do with someone who is working with the authorities with the pretension that he/she is one of the law breakers. The informant, or "snitch" then turns on his partners in the crime and receives a lesser sentence, or is not charged by those authorities. There is also the situation where someone was initially party to the "act" and turns on his/her partners after the fact.
The above is from me in an older thread.
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^^Good point Pone44. There is a thin line in every scenario. We can take the abstract holier than thou ground that "i am against snitching" period. And then RL hits. MGM - you mentioned you have twins on the way. You ready to do time in jail while your partner gives birth alone, to save the ass of some dumbass? Let's say somewhere along the line in Grad school you (or anyone for that matter) are unfairly named in some incident which goes against the admissions/eligibility rules. You had a role but an innocent one but they're outing you - think you did it and you damn well know who did. You're threatened with academic discipline if you don't out the guilty party. Are you ready to get drummed out of grad school or have a massive black mark on your academic record on the basis of some dumbass, rather than "be a snitch". These can be rhetorical questions to anyone, or anyone can answer as they see fit. Fill in the 'example' with anything meaningful to your personal life and then look back again at this 'I'd never snitch' position and in almost all instances - we will think twice. The consequences of our choices reverberate beyond our own moral convictions. We cannot look at our choices in isolation and rely solely upon our values. There is a domino effect. There is an expression that fits very well here: The only difference between a coward and a hero, is one step sideways. How I read this is, making a choice on what way to act is a split second decision. We can armchair postulate all we want - but at the end of the day, it is what is going on in our life and the domino effect of our choices, that will determine how we act. Each of us can be either a hero - or a loser. It all depends on the moment. Saying that our values an a predictable absolute is fine and dandy in a perfect world. RL is much more complicated.
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Hi kallie,
As usual, you bring good arguments to the table. I believe you were writing while I posted the definition of "snitch" above. Your scenario involves clearing your name from something that you did not have involvement in. That is not snitching.
Snitching involves escaping punishment for something that one did, by giving up information on others involved. Law enforcement takes that additional info and turns it into a more solid case against your partners in the crime.
There is nothing wrong with clearing your name. That is expected and good.
Knowingly committing a crime and screwing over your partners in that crime is cowardly and violates trusted relationships. Those are not acceptable actions.
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kallieb
^^Good point Pone44. There is a thin line in every scenario. We can take the abstract holier than thou ground that "i am against snitching" period. And then RL hits. MGM - you mentioned you have twins on the way. You ready to do time in jail while your partner gives birth alone, to save the ass of some dumbass? Let's say somewhere along the line in Grad school you (or anyone for that matter) are unfairly named in some incident which goes against the admissions/eligibility rules. You had a role but an innocent one but they're outing you - think you did it and you damn well know who did. You're threatened with academic discipline if you don't out the guilty party. Are you ready to get drummed out of grad school or have a massive black mark on your academic record on the basis of some dumbass, rather than "be a snitch". These can be rhetorical questions to anyone, or anyone can answer as they see fit. Fill in the 'example' with anything meaningful to your personal life and then look back again at this 'I'd never snitch' position and in almost all instances - we will think twice. The consequences of our choices reverberate beyond our own moral convictions. We cannot look at our choices in isolation and rely solely upon our values. There is a domino effect. There is an expression that fits very well here: The only difference between a coward and a hero, is one step sideways. How I read this is, making a choice on what way to act is a split second decision. We can armchair postulate all we want - but at the end of the day, it is what is going on in our life and the domino effect of our choices, that will determine how we act. Each of us can be either a hero - or a loser. It all depends on the moment. Saying that our values an a predictable absolute is fine and dandy in a perfect world. RL is much more complicated.
THIS^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
You have shed a very good light on the bigger picture and I thank you for that. It's easy to get caught up in the idea of absolutes, but, in truth, every single situation is different. Each situation has different parameters that must be taken into account in a decision, and to forget that is dangerous.
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cinephilia is the snitch!
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megabyteme, you are very lucky to have people like kallieb to spell it out word for word for you to understand.
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No one ever addressed these points I brought up a few pages ago...
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So what people who are "thinking about reality" (from posts above) are really saying...
"I'll be your friend- as long as there is no real cost to me."
"I'll be honest- as long as there is no real cost to me."
"I'll be trustworthy- as long as there is no real cost to me."
"I'll be brave- as long as there is no real cost to me."
"I'll think of others- as long as there is no real cost to me."
"I'll be responsible for my own actions- as long as there is no real cost to me."
I'm sure there are more, but it is a good start.
What are we if everything is situational? Friendship, trust, honesty, etc. all become relative. Are there no standards of decency? Doesn't anyone feel these things are worth facing hardship for?
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Kallie broke it down. well said. That would put you in a situation where you would be labeled a snitch. What I posted about a car,having stolen property. If it was some idiot that you just met and you were a mechanic. Would you take the years for a person you do not know so your name does not ring out snitch on the streets? You would have to give a name making you a snitch by your dictionary.
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megabyteme
Hi kallie,
As usual, you bring good arguments to the table. I believe you were writing while I posted the definition of "snitch" above. Your scenario involves clearing your name from something that you did not have involvement in. That is not snitching.
Snitching involves escaping punishment for something that one did, by giving up information on others involved. Law enforcement takes that additional info and turns it into a more solid case against your partners in the crime.
There is nothing wrong with clearing your name. That is expected and good.
Knowingly committing a crime and screwing over your partners in that crime is cowardly and violates trusted relationships. Those are not acceptable actions.
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There would be no relationship with the guy who brought the car in. We were not in the crime together. I would not be violating anyone's trust, because I had no part in the theft.
Snitching in this case would be:
The guy and I decided to start a chop shop together. He steals the cars and I make them sellable as parts.
The cops come in and arrest me. They offer me reduced charges if I agree to tell them who is stealing the cars.
I tell them (when they had no evidence)who he is and they convict my accomplice on several long-term charges. I get off light for doing so.
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Bad-Day
cinephilia is the snitch!
if it was me, you'd be in jail at the present time :yup:
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I will also add that I am very particular who I give my word to. I treat friendship (among other things) as something of value. I am cautious as to whom I make deals with.
When someone has my word, my friendship, and my agreement, they will receive those very things. And that includes my protection. I expect the same in return. If I cannot believe they hold these same things as sacred, then I keep my relationship with them very limited. I have a few friends who have lived up to this. Nothing that can be "situationalized" will change my relationship with these people.
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megabyteme
No one ever addressed these points I brought up a few pages ago...
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Originally Posted by MBM
So what people who are "thinking about reality" (from posts above) are really saying...
"I'll be your friend- as long as there is no real cost to me."
"I'll be honest- as long as there is no real cost to me."
"I'll be trustworthy- as long as there is no real cost to me."
"I'll be brave- as long as there is no real cost to me."
"I'll think of others- as long as there is no real cost to me."
"I'll be responsible for my own actions- as long as there is no real cost to me."
I'm sure there are more, but it is a good start.
What are we if everything is situational? Friendship, trust, honesty, etc. all become relative. Are there no standards of decency? Doesn't anyone feel these things are worth facing hardship for?
They are all situational though. That's the point that kallieb was trying to get across. And Benjamin as well, even if in a less than productive manner at points. We all have a certain line we will not cross, and some of us are more hardline than others, but that doesn't make the idea less viable.
It's not always a matter of "no cost", but more usually a matter of "what cost?". And sadly, there isn't a common standard for decency that extends to all of humanity. That is one of the things that makes us human. We all choose where we stand on morality and ethics on our own and once we have picked that place to stand, it's very hard to sway someone from that spot.
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Intr4ns1t
We all choose where we stand on morality and ethics on our own and once we have picked that place to stand, it's very hard to sway someone from that spot.
If I believed that the decisions were difficult for people I would not have such a strong reaction to the posts.
I think that the current generation of kids are starting to believe in everything being justifiable and relative. The decisions that should be hard become instinctual, base, and easy. There is also no perception of other, or price to pay for such life-changing decisions.
I drew the hard line because no one else was standing up for character, true friendship, and the other things in my (re)posted list.
My purposes in this thread have been to shine some light on respecting things other than "saving one's own ass" and justification. Also, to beat on the one willing to represent itself as justified in turning on someone.
Benny became my example of how strongly some of us would respond to being "sold out" by someone of his easy morals. In fact, some of us would never let such a violation go unpunished. Ever.
So I thank you, Intr4ns1t, for being someone who has paid that price for honor and friendship, and for bringing some real balance to this thread.
Now that all sides have been expressed...[/preaching] :happy:
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megabyteme
If I believed that the decisions were difficult for people I would not have such a strong reaction to the posts.
I think that the current generation of kids are starting to believe in everything being justifiable and relative. The decisions that should be hard become instinctual, base, and easy. There is also no perception of other, or price to pay for such life-changing decisions.
I drew the hard line because no one else was standing up for character, true friendship, and the other things in my (re)posted list.
My purposes in this thread have been to shine some light on respecting things other than "saving one's own ass" and justification. Also, to beat on the one willing to represent itself as justified in turning on someone.
Benny became my example of how strongly some of us would respond to being "sold out" by someone of his easy morals. In fact, some of us would never let such a violation go unpunished. Ever.
So I thank you, Intr4ns1t, for being someone who has paid that price for honor and friendship, and for bringing some real balance to this thread.
Now that all sides have been expressed...[/preaching] :happy:
To be honest, you are just straight up dumb man. You're one of those people who come off as intelligent and you might fool some people, but not everyone.
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Sorry. I just have to add to it, because it isn't done. Never, ever underestimate the power of self-survival. Before we developed a 'cultured society' we operated at a far deeper level of existence, animalistic if you will - and those instincts are not out of us yet however civilized we may believe ourselves to be. Consider the examination of this in literature: Lord of the Flies, is one that comes to mind. This is not an abstract concept. This is human nature in action. We are animals, never forget it. Consider Mazlow's hierarchy of needs. Self-actualization is possible only when the foundations beneath are met. If our sense of survival is threatened, we will act accordingly. You think during times of duress, that it is that easy to stand firm? POW's were often placed in situations of compromise, and there were times they gave up their comrades, in order to live one more day. People who are lost, stranded, left to survive - sometimes had to resort to cannibalism. Did they think at the time, they would of done such an egregious thing? Likely not, but they did anyway. The only ones who judge and condemn the difficult choices made by men and women in these circumstances are those who never had to face such a difficult choice themselves. I now rephrase my postulations. Let us say, yes - you are culpable to the max. You are in it as high to your neck as your co-conspirators. Your choices at that moment is not just about you and your friend. Nor is it about you and a value system. It is about you.. and survival. You and jail. One can say, I'd never bail on my friend. Are you ready to bail on your wife? What if it is a choice between your wife, and your friend. What if it is a choice between your friend, and your fear of jail: A grinding fear of what might happen to you in there. A fear of confinement, a fear of losing your children. Animalistic. We are animals. We will act to self-survive. I strive to live a decent life. I hope never to be placed in such a difficult moral dilemma, but I have the foresight to know that I cant predict - absolutely - how I can be when all the variables that will shape my decision are not yet known. phew...
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Benjamin
To be honest, you are just straight up dumb man. You're one of those people who come off as intelligent and you might fool some people, but not everyone.
I seriously doubt you have ever even "fooled" anyone with your intelligence. I will thank you, though, for being an excellent straw man. Some day you may realize that your "additions" to a conversation are only props for others.
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megabyteme
I seriously doubt you have ever even "fooled" anyone with your intelligence. I will thank you, though, for being an excellent straw man. Some day you may realize that your "additions" to a conversation are only props for others.
I've already tried to have a conversation with you, I can only hope that you will listen to kallieb now, she explains it much better than I did.
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kallie,
Yes, I understand survival. Very well, actually.
I even made mention to cine early on that I understand how people could break under physical duress.
I think people have failed to see my deliberate part in this thread. That was to express the hard-line to those who cannot look beyond those base needs. I wanted people to see that there are difficult decisions to be made when deciding on someone else's fate.
The posts that pissed me off were the ones that gave little or no thought to others. It seemed so reflexive to save one's own ass.
A lot of people read philosophy in hopes of finding one absolute way to live and do things. They are mistaken in this. The value of philosophy is to understand all of the different perspectives before making an informed, careful decision.
For this thread, I was playing the part of the extremist. I did that because no one else was willing to defend the things that make people better than animals.
If people want to see me as an idealist, so be it. I have been called much worse. :)
This topic is one that requires deep thought. One's decisions should not be taken lightly or focused merely on self. They should also not be entirely focused on fear.
That is what I was trying to do in this thread. Shine some light on others, relationship, honor, commitment, compassion, and similar thoughts.
Maybe now, people will go back and reread the thread with that in mind. Far too much focus has been on me and not the (IMO) ideas worth fighting for.
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Thanks TThunder,
I like the pic. It needs to be hosed elsewhere, though. I use tinypic.
And yeah, please do add to the thread you posted. Some will get my intentions here, others will miss them entirely. Oh, well. :/
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I can't be bothered to rehost a pic. I just have no idea why you're getting so deep on a bittorrent forum.
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Originally Posted by
TrollinThunder
I can't be bothered to rehost a pic. I just have no idea why you're getting so deep on a bittorrent forum.
I enjoy this community more than others I have come across and this is a community where "questionable" practices take place.
Why not have the discussion here?
I get a more active discussion of the "questionable" aspects of life here than I do at my university. This way I get different perspectives.
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Re: Are you mad at the Snitch??
Fair enough. I know nontraditional students tend to care too much about discussions. I'm been bored with such talk probably since sophomore year of college.
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Re: Are you mad at the Snitch??
Different interests, that's cool. What are you interested in? Major? Career?
Did anything have any real "spark" for you? Some classes were just requirements for me as well.
As for the slight on being a non-traditional student, you'll have a hard time convincing me that my current school is not one of the top in the region. Also, most working professionals don't have their parents to pay their way while they continue into grad school. I'll hang with the ones who can stand on their own two feet any day. We have discussions that 20-somethings who live on their parents' dime cannot bring anything to.
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Re: Are you mad at the Snitch??
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Originally Posted by
megabyteme
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Originally Posted by
chalice
megabyteme, don't you consider your full-on tedious assault upon Benjamin to be somewhat pointless, given that every word posted in this thread falls firmly into the cantons of hypotheticals?
You're lynching him upon things he's never done and likely never will.
Perhaps you're too consumed with your philosophy papers to clearly see straight.
Yep it's hypothetical here. So are a lot of our discussions. My problem with it (Benny) stems from its attempts at making snitching acceptable. We have seen others with the same leanings.
If you are already willing to bend over in a hypothetical discussion how much of a complete ball-sucking bitch will they become in a real-life situation?:O
It's gotta go something like this scene from
The Girl Next Door. Where Benny is the porn slut.
http://video.aol.ca/video-detail/eli...id=VIDURVMOV04
I am also deviating from my normal, mostly polite style to emphasize how some of us think about its kind. I would not piss on it if it were on fire. In fact, I'd go to the store and buy marshmallows and hope it was still screaming in pain and burning when I returned.
As for sez's comment, it would be a different concept all together if snitching meant "sharing the blame equally". That is not the case. The snitch gets off light and the ones snitched on get extended sentences that they would not have had because the cops did not have sufficient evidence to give them those charges or sentences. Snitches really fuck people over.
Apparently, you don't have a problem with gleefully roasting marshmallows, over the smoldering remains of a hypothetical snitch, but your personal code of ethics - won't allow you to put the snitch out of his misery with a kindly piss?
How rude.
-doobs