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Two words, T rap.
Looks like trap with a space. :dry:Quote:
Originally Posted by IdolEyes787
Word is going around that they're not planning on opening invites again.
So it seems my potential invite is as ephemeral as a Princess Unicorn.
i've been contemplating the same thing. they must foreseen the fall out and known from the get go that if they were not willing to go through with the open invites in this environment invites would never happen.Quote:
Originally Posted by cinephilia
perhaps they are sadistic, or perhaps they were just trying to trump up publicity/prestige/ego for the site. perhaps in an attempt to stimulate donations from their current members.
I think they are a bunch of whiny faggots who can't deal with people selling invites like the staff at the rest of the sites do. So they make matters worse by cutting off the supply for over a year. How fucking brilliant is that?
Or perhaps they hoped that faggots on this site and others that have traders and sellers wouldn't try anything stupid. If the same stuff happened again they would just simply cancel. It was up to the users to decide if they wanted invites open or not and they failed miserably
They totally should have expected some of that stuff. There are better ways of dealing with it. Just buy the invites and ban the user and their invite tree. Or offer incentives to users who bought the invite.
Other sites deal with this problem just as well. HDBits is one of the best sites but can't seem to accept and deal with this reality. They have done this several times already.
That's sheer faggotry.
right, just blame the victims. because it's totally possible to not have people trade and sell invites. just like it's possible for all crime to end.Quote:
Originally Posted by hotshot6473
the site choosing to let a few bad apples ruin it for the rest of us who acquire invites without buying or trading is the fault of the site alone.
It is possible for people to not trade and sell. The answer is to have no such thing as invites. If people don't stop then they will never open up the doors. That also a slim chance so in essence people only have a slim chance of ever being a member
There is an even slimmer chance that at some point nobody who trades or sells invites will be a member of HDBits.
Instead of opening invites, why don't they make an invite application? Existing members could have their friends apply for an invite through the app. Staff would then be able to choose which users can and can't join. I think that would have been a better idea.
Also, everyone knew that they wouldn't open invites. There are too many idiots out there selling and trading their accounts. Why can't they just share them for their own good? I really hope that all invite sellers get globally banned one day.
That is my dream. To rid the internet of traders and sellers.
people will never stop. there is no chance. administration needs to get real, instead of think of excuses and blaming people. (reminds me of communism actually now that i think about it. great ideal but only creates a corrupt gov't)Quote:
Originally Posted by hotshot6473
Bottom line is the site doesn't want people inside the community to break the rules. If they don't follow the rules they will not have any invite privileges. It may never happen which is something people have to deal with.
And the only way to deal with it is to start a site just like it and have people learn how to cap TV, encode properly, buy their own Bluray disks and upload them.
Maybe you're right. Maybe I should start a site, but your point doesn't change the fact that HDBits could open invites and be more normal about it.
The caps and sources are almost all posted to usenet and spotted at ABHDTV anyway. So maybe I'll just hang around there more.
XD at your dream, god dammit you are fucking patheticQuote:
Originally Posted by Slickerey
hahaha
im so glad they closed so i can laugh at all u ppl who were dreaming of one day getting into hdbits lmfao
I always laugh when i see this venom over someone trading an invite. Its a torrent site people. Your not trading your wife ,( although I think many people when they know look across them in bed would like a chance to swap out)or your kids. I am aware of how trading is frowned upon and I am lucky that a couple of friends have invited me into several good sites. If I had a friend who had an invite into a site I wanted and vice versa of course i would swap with them.
Now if I give him an invite and then a week late he gives me an invite back that is better then giving them at the same time ?
Many people I have met on a site like this or a torrent site are good people. Like many people did this week when I heard about hdbits opening up I pm'd a dozen or so regular people i chat with at least once a month and said if u get an extra invite can u hook me up. To me thats what being a good member of the torrent scene does. U help friends enjoy Movies,tv,games, and music.
If sites are worried about collectors then simply don't give out any invites unless you have been an active member for several months. People who sign up won't be able to buy invites like at some sites and if they don't bother to download or use there account regularily (at least every 2 weeks) prune there accounts ( I know some sites do this).
Don't some people remember 25 years ago when u bought a nintendo or a sega and you trading games with your buddies instead of buying the games from the store. I know I did this. Now advertising trades on ebay or even on here I can see having negative benefits to the tracker in terms of unwanted pub. I get that part, no site wants to be shut down. But hdbits is afraid of its own members. Are these the same members regularily downloading stuff and contributing to what is supposed to be a great forum.
I think this was a preplanned move to announce the day well ahead just to be able to cancel it later. THen they can say well we tried. If they really cared they wouldn't announce it. Once a month or 3-4 times a year they would simply open up invites for a few hours in a day. People for the most part would only have time to contact people they already know to give an invite out.
Not once did I condone selling. Selling I agree is wrong. I just feel that the attitude that some sites have about there members is unrealistic. U can't have 20,000 members in anything without 200-300 jerks. Do we cancel the New years Eve fireworks because of the dozen knuckleheads smoking up (must be members of SCC according to there recent forum thread) under the bleachers or do we let the 5000 people enjoy the show.
HDbits can keep there doors closed and one day like every other site they will close and be replaced.
Stepping off my soapbox, kicking my feet back, just opened a cold one and going to enjoy my 3 weeks of holidays now.
best of the season to all and lets remember no matter how frustrated some get at times we are still getting great stuff for free
Another great post from you. Not sure what this forum would do without your great contributions.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ewwwyourface
nucks that's a very sensible post and I welcome you to this world of FST, where we can actually have a discussion about this shit rather than just act like fags on some invite only forum.
You're completely right about swapping with friends. There is really nothing wrong with that and it is the most prevalent form of trading around. Except nobody calls it trading of course.
I don't know if it was preplanned. I kind of doubt that. I've seen them do this before. I truly believe that there some of the staff are just completely unrealistic and don't feel like letting good people in outweighs the handful of people who sell invites.
It's a bit silly, but that's what they do each time invites are opened. Oddly, invites have always been plentiful and they were very easy to come by in 2006-2008 or so. Don't quote me on the years, but they were very easy to get into and now tons of traders and sellers are there, just as well as tons of good members.
Well before I have 2 more drinks and can't string a proper sentence together here's one more thing to think about. I can't really imagine that there is a huge differeance between hdbits and bithdtv. I know hdbits has 25% more files but do I personally need seven versions of the same movie. 90% of the time i find the movie I need on bithdtv. Would I signup at hdbits ... yeah for sure to try it out. As far as some people saying the encoding releases there are better I guess my eyesight is going becuase I can't see a differance on my 50" Samsung between WIKI, ESIR, Cinefile, or many others. All 720p proper releases play beautifully and sound great with dts soundtracks on my home theater.
I just wish if hdbits is much better for some reason then why not run your sight like bithdtv. Invites are plentiful, given away many places, and they keep the lid on total members so the sight doesn't go the way of TL with a huge userbase. Once the allusion of can't getting in was gone, I think the sellers would move on to there next hidden site.
yes that is the bottom line, but disabling invites forever (even worse, announcing that they will open them and then reneging) is a self-righteous and egotistical solution which in the end fails to achieve the bottom line, and arguably exacerbates the problem.Quote:
Originally Posted by hotshot6473
there are currently traders and sellers inside the site already. the only way to deal with it justly is like all the other sites deal with it: ban the rule breakers but don't penalize the good members and good would-be members.
Seeing as how HDBits staff is so elitist and full of themselves, that actually sounds like a good idea and substitute of the current invite method (er, or lack thereof!!).Quote:
Originally Posted by Slickerey
Nucks, you make a LOT of excellent and valid points, especially w/ regards to trading invites. I seriously have no idea why trading invites are so frowned upon, either (w/ the exception of SELLING invites). When you mention about swapping invites between friends, I was thinking the same damn thing.Quote:
Originally Posted by nucks2424
I used to borrow games back n' forth between friends the same as you mentioned and view doing the same w/ torrent tracker invites the same. Now, if you happen to trade a good invite to some random nub who leeches one big movie file, doesn't seed, goes away for a month, and gets you both banned, well that's your own damn fault for being an idiot.
Now, back to HDBits, if the staff truly feel this way about a lot of their members (meaning, looking down upon them and frowning), why not revamp their current method of thinking? Why not wipe out low ratio, inactive, and/or non-involved members? 23,000 members. Surely there are lots bad apples in that bunch. Think about it, if only 1% are bad, that's still 230 people!!!!!
Clear out some dead weight, while making way for eager HD-lovers, who SEED and contribute, and who've been waiting to get in for years (like myself, for starters!).
Sadly, I feel the doors to HDBits will be closed for another year and possibly for the rest of its' life (w/ the exception of staff members or VIP members who can, I believe, still give out invites to their buddies).
anyhow, they KNEW it would happen... so why did they announce the opening of invites a week before ?
they could have opened invites for 1 or 2 days without advising any member before the opening, i guess traders and sellers wouldn't have had time to react.
Yah its pretty lame for them to act like they didn't see this coming. Obviously the members that were doing this before are still there.Quote:
Originally Posted by cinephilia
Bad news - 18/12/09
Well, a couple of idiots have ruined it for you all. There won't be invites on monday.
is it true?
yes it is.
Very sad to hear this.......thanks to these "guys" that caused all the potential good members not getting in.....
yes it is.Quote:
Originally Posted by lisabritpop
By an economical point of view, the longer they keep the invites closed, the more they become a luxury good. Doing this is not a solution.
As some people said before, if they open the invites for 6 hours or so, time to time, for sure genuine members would have time to invite their friends. There wouldn't be even time to sell or trade them.
Like whiteboy said it's a silly "solution" all the sellers/traders are still there and can easily still sell /trade an account at their leisure , the only ones to truly lose out are those people who actually have obeyed the rules and would have used the opportunity to finally invite a friend.
Maybe I'm getting it wrong but it seems that HDbits has already invited the fox into the chicken coop but now thinks that locking the door will fix the problem.:unsure:
yeah , i agree with uQuote:
Originally Posted by Cabaloyes it is.Quote:
Originally Posted by lisabritpop
By an economical point of view, the longer they keep the invites closed, the more they become a luxury good. Doing this is not a solution.
As some people said before, if they open the invites for 6 hours or so, time to time, for sure genuine members would have time to invite their friends. There wouldn't be even time to sell or trade them.
I don't see why the staffers keep closing invite because of a few sellers....u know , all sites have the same problem
If they don't wanna be another OINK, they need to stay closed and get rid of invite sellers that are still on their site. (If those sellers were indeed the ones who ruined it for potential good invitees).
many joke-news. i c.
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have fun!
I'm glad I read this thread, I felt so foolish to believe this. People called the cancellation out before it happened. How could such an exclusive site announce an opening several days beforehand? All along it was just a big FU. You are illusioned to ever think HDBits can open without traders appearing to capitalize on it... probably some of your valued members.
At this point I don't care about HDBits. The rumors about the abuse must be true. This just puts a wax seal on it for me.
Some people need to understand that HDBits doesn't need any new members, the site is thriving with it's current user base, opening invites on the 21st was basically a gift from the staff in light of the holidays.
Certain people ruined it for everyone else, you should blame them. The staff were just being generous, again, they have no need for new members.
Blaming traders wont do shit..
if HDBits staffers did, at any point of time, rule out the possibility of traders cashing in.. then they certainly expected way too much outta certain people..
There is a whole world of difference between the *real* and *ideal* world..about time they accept that.
//Peace
That's probably the best solution.
A solution means there is a problem, invites are closed again, back to normal. There is no problem.Quote:
Originally Posted by Magnum
Anyway it's nice to see that the admins takes precautions against this behavior.
Some fucking idiots do this: http://www.torrentinvites.org/invite...g/prod_18.html
IMHO it's a fake thing ;)