OCZ Vertex SSDs- Initial Results

AhH , Thanks dude I got it. I did the Sanitary erase and reinstall without a hitch.

Put san erase on flash drive
Break raid array-revert disks to non raid restart
Change to IDE in bios
Use X86 repair disk (in my case I used vista Repair disk torrent)
Ran the Command prompt and typed "Sanitary_erase"
Done and done

So now I did all that and I have better HD tach results
http://img22.imageshack.us/img22/1359/captureba.png

So that worked a little bit BUT...

I installed the 195.81 beta forceware that I was using before and the Rapid storage tech, shut the visual effects but somehow my PC pitstop scores were lower somehow :huh:
http://img63.imageshack.us/img63/7127/11765351.jpg

Not sure what I did wrong like.

EDIT: Here's atto bench

http://img121.imageshack.us/img121/5077/atto.jpg

Looks a little funky to me

You didn't have Flash installed on your browser so PCPitstop didn't run the internet speed test...that's why your score is low.

Damn you're good!

I still don't understand why your video MP/s is 635 and mine is 504? Whaddya got for that one?

I got nuttin'.

You still rock man :)

Indeed, I do.

DAMNIT Now Im getting BSOD's saying quota underflow. Think it could be the SSD'S?

Probably not.
Most likely cause on the internet seems to be video card drivers.

Yeah I just read that. I'm going to get the regular release instead of the Beta drivers I been using and see if it stops. It's really weird like, it just happens at random times. there's no action to justify it.

Oh, you kids and your beta drivers.
Can't be using the same drivers as the old folks, no, that wouldn't be cool.
Have to be using some raggedy ass, unsigned, built by God knows who, "Beta" drivers.

Well, young man, there's a price to be paid being hip and you just got the check.

Now, get off my lawn.

LOL, funny thing is, when we had the same 8800 card YOU were the one who got me into beta drivers in the first place. Don't make me find that post grandpa! Also don't give me that "do as I say, not as I do" bit either, I gave that one to my kid tonight before bed.

Busted.

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Originally Posted by clocker

Cleaning the drives was a giant PITA.
The app I was trying to use is called Sanitary_Erase but I couldn't make it work.

Supposedly, you can run it from a thumb drive while booted to a Win7 install disk but my grasp of DOS is feeble and shaky and I got nowhere.
Took the drives- including the flash drive- to a friend's house and he magic-fingered his way to the app and wiped the drives.
I have no idea what he did...

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A tip for next time, maybe, in case you ever need another secure erase:

Get gparted.

Burn iso to a cd.

(If there's a raid array on the disks, you may want to make sure that's deleted.)

Boot from the cd, and keep pressing enter until you're on the desktop.

Doubleclick the terminal icon.

Then follow these instructions.

Found it through here. I did not need to put my ssds in a usb enclosure, though, and after the terminal is up, you want to follow what the second link in this post says, not the one in this paragraph.

Easy as pie.

Now, since calling up a command prompt (shift+F10) from the windows installer (:dabs: I think I've fully explored that route, after four subsequent install attempts kept defaulting C: to 4k, even though I did have the system reserved 100MB partition set up properly first on the disk and all), and formatting through diskpart won't stick, I'll just need to find a tool that lets me actually set the cluster size to 64 or 32k on my windows partition, and I'll be all set.

Well I'm finally back after a long winters nap ;)
http://img230.imageshack.us/img230/4...tach3211st.jpg

Average read looks right but the burst is low.
Why?

Not sure. I imagine it has something to do with me not wiping my drive before installing windows. I forgot and not I'm too lazy. I'll prob do it this weekend.

Nope.
Did you turn off write cache buffer flushing in Device Manager?

You rock bud ;)
http://img688.imageshack.us/img688/4695/captureyw.jpg

Just bought and installed this. (It was $189 + $20 rebate = $169 when I bought it.)

Installed Windows 7 Ultimate x64 from a USB drive. I had to repartition two other drives during the install and the entire thing still took just eleven minutes. Boot times are faster but nothing worth writing home about. All the pre-Windows 'stuff' takes around 25 seconds to load, then from the "Windows Starting" screen to finished desktop is about another 40 seconds. All in all about 70 seconds to usable desktop on first reboot.

Just went through and did the following:

Disabled indexing.
Disabled defragmentation.
Disabled write caching. Just realized there is a 64MB onboard cache.
Disabled system restore.
Disabled hibernate.
Using memory cache for Firefox instead of disk cache. I believe Snee was doing this as well. I set it at 128MB. I think the default is 50MB but it shouldn't really make a difference should it, seeing as I have 8GB of RAM?

EDIT: After tweaks, I am at a fully loaded system and usable desktop at 50 seconds. That's pretty quick. :smilie4:

Better download this and up a screenie bud. I want to see what scores you get ;)

This might explain why all my games are laggy. :cry:








http://i40.tinypic.com/25a6io8.jpg

:huh: is this the new SSd bud? I'd say something's afoot!

What firmware do you have?

Do you have the latest Rapid Storage driver installed?

Write back Cache on/off (I forget which)

I mean here is my SATAII 750 Seagate drive
http://img42.imageshack.us/img42/6835/ddrive.jpg


On the topic though it's been almost a month and I haven't done anything except run perfect disk and I haven't lost too much speed at all ;)
http://img97.imageshack.us/img97/999/418mp.jpg

Yep. That's the SSD. :(

I'm going to go find out what the firmware is right now.

What are "Rapid Storage drivers"?

For read/write cache, see post #99. I think that will answer your question. :unsure:

Hey,

Just curious - you guys probably know a hell of a lot more about this than I do, apologies if I sound like a tard.

Are the benefits of booting from SSD/putting some oft used apps on there significantly noticeable? Would you guys recommend it for a budget of around ~1000 or would it be a little too much for that kind of budget?

And what's the meaning of having to use different connections/ports (IDE? SATA?) depending on the mobo/CPU you have?

Skizo: Intel Rapid Storage Download the "STOR_allOS" and install it. What kind of cable do you have there is it SATAI or II? I missed good 'ol #99 sorry. Try playing with Enable/disable the write back cache see if that helps.

Just realized you're back working for the man again eh?

Rart: The most noticeable thing is how fast windows stats up. You will also notice things in general just happening faster. You may be able to squeeze this into an upcoming build, i'll check your other thread and see what specs can be arranged ;) Also IDE and SATA are two different conections. IDE is the older, slower version. SATA has a I and a II and now even a III each is double the speed of it's predecessor. I=1.5 Gb/s II is 3 Gb/s and the snappy new III=6Gb/s but it doesn'treally make sense to use a III as of yet IMO.

Here is a real good benchmark test for ssd since there is no rpms ( nothing mechanical ) and its as accurate as you can get.
http://crystalmark.info/software/Cry...k/index-e.html

Here is a good guide to tweaking win 7 for ssd
http://www.ocztechnologyforum.com/fo...mp-Utilities-*

I have been told by many when You install the os on an ssd use achi. You can always change back to ide to test if results are better but not vice versa. If you using raid that's whole new ballgame and best place for your answers for that would be the manufacturers website forums. Also make sure you have trim support on ( and working ) and your drives have the latest firmware. Hope this helps. :D

Sure I'll bite, where are your results?

Here's mine
http://img263.imageshack.us/img263/2135/cdisku.jpg

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Originally Posted by Detale

What kind of cable do you have there is it SATAI or II?

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The only difference between the cables is SATA II has those annoying retaining clips and SATA I does not.
Physically identical otherwise.

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i bought one too

http://img519.imageshack.us/i/newbitmapimagebn.png/

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Originally Posted by Detale

Skizo: Intel Rapid Storage Download the "STOR_allOS" and install it. What kind of cable do you have there is it SATAI or II? I missed good 'ol #99 sorry. Try playing with Enable/disable the write back cache see if that helps.

Just realized you're back working for the man again eh?

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I read the description on Intels site about "Intel Rapid Storage/STOR_allOS". It seems to be for RAID setups which I do not have. :unsure:

I never got back to you on the firmware thing. I think the firmware is 1.5. When I first boot my PC and the BIOS is loading my hard drives, it lists my SSD as "OCZ VERTEX EX-TURBO 1.5". That means the firmaware is 1.5... right? :unsure:

Yes.

Oh crap I forgot I had a raid setup. HMMM Have you posted on the OCZ forums at all? Clocker I thought the data transfer rates were faster on the Sata II CABLE

Making progress.



http://i42.tinypic.com/3166mfm.jpg

i downloaded that optimizer program and went from a 7.3 transfer rate to a 7.2

@ Skizo, what did you do bud?

@Frank What "optimizer" did you DL?

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Originally Posted by Detale

Skizo, what did you do bud?

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I don't know. :blushing:

The latest response in my OCZ thread seems to come from one of the regulars and states:

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that is about all you can get w/ your chipset. idle logged off overnight then a few hours a week.

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That doesn't sound right to me, but I'll try logging off today when I leave for work and then run it again tonight. :idunno:

I believe the idea of logging off or even letting the computer sit in the bios screen is to let "TRIM" do it's job. I don't know why that would help your R/W speed :idunno:

i rebooted and it went back to 7.3

http://www.ocztechnologyforum.com/fo...ad.php?t=49779

please explain more about what you mean 7.3

Windows "Experience" score?