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No, they are not.
Your mileage may vary.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tuxman
How?
Some people prefer torrents because they're fast and have a relatively low learning curve as well as less things to care about when compared to eMule (firewalled? Who cares, I can still leech). And some people prefer eMule because they do well with it, it's fast for them and they can always find the stuff they want, for example in your case.
You may argue that you always get full speed on eMule, but try telling that to the guy that wants to download the latest movie and is getting 60kB/s on eMule but 600 on TPB or the private tracker of his choice. Of course it's not your fault it he's a noob and can't even forward his ports for optimum functionality, but what can you do?
Even with all the right settings I (who first used eMule around the time it was released, ~8 years ago) have had slow speeds on new stuff. Yes, I've left the thing running 24/7. Yes, my ports are forwarded. Yes, I've uploaded a lot and tweaked every setting in my client.
So I've arrived at the same conclusions as lots of other people: eMule is for rare stuff and patient users. I do like how once you have some stuff you share you begin to upload the second you open the client, though. If private torrents were like that the (BT) world would be a better place.
Not attacking you of course, just making a small rant. :)
Telling me that torrents are "fast" shows me that you haven't got a clue of how P2P actually works.
This might explain why you guys develop 0-upload mods.
Install uTorrent. Don't change any settings. Go grab the latest movie from TPB or any other public indexer. Now install eMule from scratch, to a different directory, of course. Tweak it to hell. Try to get the same movie.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tuxman
See?
That's a different story entirely.Quote:
This might explain why you guys develop 0-upload mods.
I did that a few months ago. Guess which one had won. Hint: It does not contain a "t".Quote:
Originally Posted by anon-sbi
So? If you are filesharers, why do you do that? The only explanation possible is: You are not.Quote:
That's a different story entirely.
Cool. Now tell random people to do that and you'll notice different results.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tuxman
That feature isn't for outright leeching, it's for security reasons. I despise pure leeching as much as you (not that I expect you to believe me, anyway), but try telling that to the guy that wants a file that's only on eMule and can get disconnected or charged a fine if he's caught uploading copyrighted stuff. It's no wonder that many of those "0-upload mods" originate from Germany where that's how the legislation is.Quote:
So? If you are filesharers, why do you do that? The only explanation possible is: You are not.
And I doubt they'll result in a very different point of view.Quote:
Originally Posted by anon-sbi
If you want security, get off of my beautiful eD2K/Kad networks. It can't survive with your view on "security".Quote:
Originally Posted by anon-sbi
Just curious, when did those networks become yours?Quote:
Originally Posted by Tuxman
Apparently it can as it's still standing. I do agree on that if everyone leeched without giving back the network would die, of course.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tuxman
I want it to be alive, you try to kill it.
P2P is based on upload, not on download.
So it's, at least, more mine than yours.
I don't even use eMule. Or torrents. Or P2P. :idunno:Quote:
Originally Posted by Tuxman
So what is your problem then?
Well, you're talking to me as if I used P2P and leeched 24/7 without uploading anything, or coded those eMule leecher mods. At least that's the impression I get. Both statements are false. Just thought I'd make that clear. Cheers.
well i used emule few years back for few rare tracks...well emule is slow as a fuck...i installed a tweaked version of emule...i was able to catch 400-500 kb/s
torrent & warez extremly fast :D
1. "Warez" is not a P2P network.Quote:
Originally Posted by johhny
2. You don't have any fucking clue about how P2P works.
Just curious, which version was it? If you don't want to say it here feel free to PM :) Because there are many non-leecher mods that are significantly faster than the vanilla eMule.Quote:
Originally Posted by johhny
1. some people call file hosters "warez", although that's an incorrect term.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tuxman
2. so if eMule isn't blazing fast for people, they don't have a fucking clue about how P2P works? :unsure:
"OCH is faster than eMule!!1" --> no fucking clue about how P2P works. (Besides that, non-premium Uploading.to etc. are significantly slower than eMule.)Quote:
Originally Posted by anon-sbi
People who say $P2PNetworkA would be "faster" than $P2PNetworkB don't have a clue about what their DL speed depends on, so: Yep.Quote:
Originally Posted by anon-sbi
And Mediafire is lightning fast. It's all about which hosters we're talking about.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tuxman
Maybe they don't want to go to the effort of making those conditions proper when that's done largely more transparently on $P2PNetworkB. :unsure:Quote:
People who say $P2PNetworkA would be "faster" than $P2PNetworkB don't have a clue about what their DL speed depends on, so: Yep.
You can't take hosters as a comparison object for P2P networks. (Well, you can, but...)Quote:
Originally Posted by anon-sbi
Which does not falsify my thesis, does it?Quote:
Originally Posted by anon-sbi
You can compare them as means of downloading stuff, however. Which is that I thought people were doing here.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tuxman
I'm just shooting in the dark, man. :(Quote:
Which does not falsify my thesis, does it?
You can drive by bike or by car, and the fact that a car is faster and does not require actual work to run does not make a bike nonsense, right?Quote:
Originally Posted by anon-sbi
And missing the deer.Quote:
Originally Posted by anon-sbi
Nope.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tuxman
And eMule isn't made nonsense either just because other networks/protocols are preferred by some people. :unsure:
That's what it was about, initially.
emule is better
Torrent stuff is the best but users of emule i heard giving good speed
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Originally Posted by PT8023
thanksQuote:
Originally Posted by Jadoogar
I've played around with emule a few times, but I must have had it set up wrong, because in my experience, it was painfully slow. Don't know what I had wrong, but I was lucky to get 20 kbps. It was almost like dial up lol. I stuck with newsgroups & torrents, & the occasional ddl.
Getting high download speeds out of eMule is a bit of an art form. Some files can download fast, but many are slow. That's what the developers wanted. Emule gives higher priority to rare files, and while this speeds up the download speed of rare files, it also slows down the speed of common files.
Because of way everything is queue'd in ed2k, maxing out one's bandwidth on eMule generally requires downloading numerous files simultaneously, and overlapping them.
In contrast, I recall sometimes I'd open eMule and find myself uploading before it even finished connecting :lol:Quote:
Originally Posted by zot
You may be able to parallel some of the concepts in both protocols (servers are like trackers, Kad is like DHT), but BT and eMule aren't the same.Quote:
Originally Posted by nullifygirls
Honestly emule is my last choice if i can't find something , which rarely happens . Firstly try it on pv trackers , then public , then usenet , then warez-bb if all these fails which is very unlikely then i try my luck on emule ;)