Apple sucks, don't succumb to iRape

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Originally Posted by rejectOfAllah

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Originally Posted by scrappen

I have an iPhone because I'm cool! It's a known fact that deep down, everybody wants one. Those who badmouths it aswell as other Apple products are people who can't afford them and they are just jealous of people like me!

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As opposed to those of us who own iPhone 4s and are happy to declare them the worst mobile phone we've ever had you mean?

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Really? Is it jailbroken? I recently switched from a android based phone, that was constantly locking up. (Although I admit it was a bottom of the line LG POS) And have to admit I'm pretty happy with it, in comparison. Never had it lock up or give me any trouble at all so far...And I'm not a Apple fan in any way shape or form. I just have several friends who had them, & they highly recommended them.

Yep, really. Not jailbroken. Just crap. I can have four bars of signal strength and still every single conversation is broken up... calls regularly fail... it's a nice enough gadget, it's just a completely crappy phone. Oh and I'm not alone... I work in a company of several hundred people... and we all now have iPhone 4s and they're all the same.

We regularly have to end conversations with each other and have one person go and find a landline in order to have any kind of conversation at all, because the combination of having two crappy iPhones talking to each other makes any kind of conversation impossible. We have people who are desperately trying to keep hold of old Nokia phones to avoid going to iPhone 4s... which is against the company policy.

It will lock up on you at some point. It will refuse to dial at some point as well, and you'll need to reboot it then.

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Originally Posted by teflon05

Really? Is it jailbroken? Although I don't share scrappens elitist BS attitude, I recently switched from a android based phone, that was constantly locking up. (Although I admit it was a bottom of the line LG POS) And have to admit I'm pretty happy with it, in comparison. Never had it lock up or give me any trouble at all so far...And I'm not a Apple fan in any way shape or form. I just have several friends who had them, & they highly recommended them.

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Perhaps it didn't shine through but I was being sarcastic on account of the Apple fanboys. I do however use an iPhone 4 at work and i have never experienced any signal problems (or any other problem with it for that matter) during the year i've had it.

rejectOfAllah: do you by any chance live in USA or somewhere else where the cellular infrastructure is crap? If so, perhaps that is part of the problem? :P

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Originally Posted by scrappen

Perhaps it didn't shine through but I was being sarcastic on account of the Apple fanboys. I do however use an iPhone 4 at work and i have never experienced any signal problems (or any other problem with it for that matter) during the year i've had it.

rejectOfAllah: do you by any chance live in USA or somewhere else where the cellular infrastructure is crap? If so, perhaps that is part of the problem? :P

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No I live in the UK, and I travel all over the UK.

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Originally Posted by scrappen

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Originally Posted by teflon05

Really? Is it jailbroken? Although I don't share scrappens elitist BS attitude, I recently switched from a android based phone, that was constantly locking up. (Although I admit it was a bottom of the line LG POS) And have to admit I'm pretty happy with it, in comparison. Never had it lock up or give me any trouble at all so far...And I'm not a Apple fan in any way shape or form. I just have several friends who had them, & they highly recommended them.

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Perhaps it didn't shine through but I was being sarcastic on account of the Apple fanboys. I do however use an iPhone 4 at work and i have never experienced any signal problems (or any other problem with it for that matter) during the year i've had it

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In that case, I retract my statement & apologize.

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Originally Posted by rejectOfAllah

No I live in the UK, and I travel all over the UK.

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I'm not familiar with UK providers, so I don't know if that has anything to do with it or not. I'm with Verizon in the US myself, & I've rarely had any problems with dropped calls. I jailbroke mine right after I got it, due to Apple not allowing certain apps in their so-called app store. The only real complaint I've had with it, is that it seems so damn fragile....It's like carrying around a damn piece of china...Had to go get one of those Otter Boxes, which also wasn't cheap :dry:

I believe that Verizon fixed the signal issue teflon.

http://nexus404.com/Blog/2011/01/16/...ntenna-expert/

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Originally Posted by rejectOfAllah

Yep, really. Not jailbroken. Just crap. I can have four bars of signal strength and still every single conversation is broken up... calls regularly fail... it's a nice enough gadget, it's just a completely crappy phone. Oh and I'm not alone... I work in a company of several hundred people... and we all now have iPhone 4s and they're all the same.

We regularly have to end conversations with each other and have one person go and find a landline in order to have any kind of conversation at all, because the combination of having two crappy iPhones talking to each other makes any kind of conversation impossible. We have people who are desperately trying to keep hold of old Nokia phones to avoid going to iPhone 4s... which is against the company policy.

It will lock up on you at some point. It will refuse to dial at some point as well, and you'll need to reboot it then.

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Sounds like your company needs to get an obvious signal issue sorted out/investigated. I work for a company where nearly everyone has iPhone 4s with no such trouble at all.

What network are you with?



Edit: I'm not a massive fan of Apple products btw. I think they make a good product but they're too expensive. My next upgrade will be an Android as was my recent tablet purchase.

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Originally Posted by Cheese

Sounds like your company needs to get an obvious signal issue sorted out/investigated. I work for a company where nearly everyone has iPhone 4s with no such trouble at all.

What network are you with?



Edit: I'm not a massive fan of Apple products btw. I think they make a good product but they're too expensive. My next upgrade will be an Android as was my recent tablet purchase.

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We're all on Vodaphone... except one bloke who is on Orange... and his iPhone suffers the same problems.

TBH I'm not arsed who makes the technology I have, as long as it actually works... like I said the iPhone 4 is a nice enough gadget, but it's just no good as a phone... at least not in my experience. It's re-enforced my view that traditional companies produce better products. So if you want a digital camera, buy it from a camera manufacturer, not a computer company. If you want a mobile phone, you'll be better off with one from a mobile phone company, than with one from a computer company... etc, etc...

My TV monitor was produced by a desktop/laptop manufacturer, and it fucking blows.

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Originally Posted by mjmacky

My TV monitor was produced by a desktop/laptop manufacturer, and it fucking blows.

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Really. Who made it?

HP

No "just scan" feature, minimal resolution support, an LCD that started burning in 15 minutes images after the first week that's gotten progressively worse.

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Originally Posted by rejectOfAllah

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Originally Posted by Cheese

Sounds like your company needs to get an obvious signal issue sorted out/investigated. I work for a company where nearly everyone has iPhone 4s with no such trouble at all.

What network are you with?



Edit: I'm not a massive fan of Apple products btw. I think they make a good product but they're too expensive. My next upgrade will be an Android as was my recent tablet purchase.

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We're all on Vodaphone... except one bloke who is on Orange... and his iPhone suffers the same problems.

TBH I'm not arsed who makes the technology I have, as long as it actually works... like I said the iPhone 4 is a nice enough gadget, but it's just no good as a phone... at least not in my experience. It's re-enforced my view that traditional companies produce better products. So if you want a digital camera, buy it from a camera manufacturer, not a computer company. If you want a mobile phone, you'll be better off with one from a mobile phone company, than with one from a computer company... etc, etc...

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Well the issue you have appears to be fixed in the U.S. thanks to Verizon.

http://filesharingtalk.com/threads/4...=1#post3608422

Do you have the fully sick case that Apple rolled out to fix the issue?

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Also read this: http://www.tmz.com/2011/08/26/steve-...k#.Tlkc2WtGQxE

then view this: http://www.allthatisapple.com/wp-con.../08/Steve1.jpg

Those damn soap mags scooped to a new low!

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Originally Posted by mjmacky

Still, neither of them makes their shit toys any more appealing.

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Well, lad that's a bit of a misleading statement. Obviously,Apple produces appealing toys. It matters not the reason for their appeal -- It's there.

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Originally Posted by mjmacky

The Android experience I get is levels above the experience of having to mess around on an iPhone. Alright, so I got into it just a little, but oh well

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I've had an iPhone. I enjoyed the quality of it's OS and its apps store (for sheer quantity and overall quality) I currently use a DroidX and I enjoy the Android market, and the idea of letting devs put their apps on the market, right away. However, the quality and quantity of the apps on the Android market need to improve.

I use what products works for me. It's simple, really.

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Originally Posted by mjmacky

Alright, so I got into it just a little, but oh well

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Phone sex! :O

-doobs

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Originally Posted by brotherdoobie

Well, lad that's a bit of a misleading statement. Obviously,Apple produces appealing toys. It matters not the reason for their appeal -- It's there.

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I don't think it's misleading in the context I used it. I started off the tone for the devices to have little to no appeal and presented the app acceptance policies as being counter to their goal, thus no extra appeal added. I'm sympathetic to the developer's plight with this device. Sure the money's nice, but between Objective C and censorship, it's pretty fucking ridiculous.

Now since I am well oriented with computing and technology, the friends/family like to use me as a resource to help with issues. Usually I'm fine with it, but having to deal with fucking Apple's OS's, I'm fucking done with that. If anyone asks me now, I either say fuck you or "sorry, I've never even seen a(n) >>>insert device here<<< before", depending on the context of my relationship with the person. But Apple has inundated the market with their tech lately, whereas before my exposure to their devices was isolated in nice controlled environments. So now I am finding myself having to be more vocal and apparent with my growing disgust with Apple to repulse the notion that I will help anyone with whatever iShit they've got. This thread is more or less a byproduct of my stance. Otherwise, I wouldn't have cared enough to be such an active hater.

On top of that, I'm taken back by the prices people are paying for this crap. I actually had to go online to see the prices they charge for Macbook Pro because my friend was too embarrassed to admit how much he shelled out for his.

I think apples magnetic cover for the ipad is pretty cool. Easily the coolest thing they make. However anything with an apple OS on it, ill pass.

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Originally Posted by mjmacky

Now since I am well oriented with computing and technology, the friends/family like to use me as a resource to help with issues. Usually I'm fine with it, but having to deal with fucking Apple's OS's, I'm fucking done with that. If anyone asks me now, I either say fuck you or "sorry, I've never even seen a(n) >>>insert device here<<< before", depending on the context of my relationship with the person. But Apple has inundated the market with their tech lately, whereas before my exposure to their devices was isolated in nice controlled environments. So now I am finding myself having to be more vocal and apparent with my growing disgust with Apple to repulse the notion that I will help anyone with whatever iShit they've got. This thread is more or less a byproduct of my stance. Otherwise, I wouldn't have cared enough to be such an active hater.

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I have empathy for you and for your dealings with the Apple OS ( and Apple policy). I use Flash often, and web development is a pain in the ass on Apple's mobile devices, because of Apple not allowing Flash on their stuff, like.

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Originally Posted by mjmacky

On top of that, I'm taken back by the prices people are paying for this crap. I actually had to go online to see the prices they charge for Macbook Pro because my friend was too embarrassed to admit how much he shelled out for his.

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Agreed^



-doobs

doobie, aren't web devs moving more towards HTML5 because of the amount of people with iDevices?

HTML5 will end up meeting most of one's needs; however Flash, Java, or something client based, will be needed for more complex apps.

Job's rants against Flash are flawed. He claims Flash is not secure and Apple's stack is. Well, Apple devices are jailbroken every day, via software flaws.


-doobs

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Originally Posted by brotherdoobie

HTML5 will end up meeting most of one's needs; however Flash, Java, or something client based, will be needed for more complex apps.

Job's rants against Flash are flawed. He claims Flash is not secure and Apple's stack is. Well, Apple devices are jailbroken every day, via software hardware flaws.


-doobs

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Actually...

^Both... actually.


-doobs

Touché!

Who needed a wash now?

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Originally Posted by mjmacky

Who needed a wash now?

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Depends. Are you offering lip or hand action?

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Originally Posted by mjmacky

Who needed a wash now?

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I'm sure there's a super-fucking-cool cover for that! Surprised designers dont create covers for covers ... you know just in case it gets scratched?

http://i.imgur.com/Yi4HQ.jpg vs. http://i.imgur.com/ULHyC.png

/argument

You can have colour pictures on an iPhone, so they're obviously better.

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Originally Posted by mjmacky

Who needed a wash now?

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Depends. Are you offering lip or hand action?

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Just the hose, or an anagram if you prefer.

By the way, what's up with the pictures, I think I'm just looking at unlock screens and I recognize the one on the right. But my overanalysis style of thinking is distracting me. Am I looking at size of picture, screen clutter/color? Also, I have no idea what the one on the left is, I'm assuming it's Apple?

Siri is pro-life, she thinks life starts at copulation and you shouldn't interfere with god's work. If you do the same search with Android based phone, it'll find them for you, so it's not the "wording".

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=195vJGvvH-M

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I only buy Adidas, I only buy iso devices.they look better on me and when people see me on them they see style.its a brand thing partly.you just have to pay extra for the name.

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Originally Posted by ziggyjuarez

I only buy Adidas, I only buy iso devices.they look better on me and when people see me on them they see style.its a brand thing partly.you just have to pay extra for the name.

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Style in the trailerpark? :blink: One minute your semi-homeless, selling blood for drinking money, next your buying Adidas because of the style and you just have to pay the extra for the name.
Confused? I am.

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Originally Posted by ziggyjuarez

I only buy Adidas, I only buy iso devices.they look better on me and when people see me on them they see style.its a brand thing partly.you just have to pay extra for the name.

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Bahahahaha Adidas for style.

No laces either:01:

@art
I was just trying to imply that apple is a brand name a lot of people go for because it's in.not really a bad thing.we all do it.

Here, let me help you. Bostonian, Brutini, Klein. Hush Puppies acceptable for the weekend. And since apparently you live in a trailer park, you might want to muck around with American Eagle (the shoe brand, not the outfitting franchise) or State Street. Finances are a bitch.
Don't forget to thank me after your next interview.

Jesus. Adidas for style. What's next? Custom Nikes on the red carpet? People in the US, nowadays. :rolleyes:

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Originally Posted by ziggyjuarez

@art
I was just trying to imply that apple is a brand name a lot of people go for because it's in.not really a bad thing.we all do it.

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No, not all of us do that. I personally think it's the dumbest way to make a consumer decision. I bet you have valcro strips on your shoes.

Eww old people shoes:sick:I own a nice pair of Stacy Adams for church.have an opinion on that?
Ps theyre my only shoes that have Valcro.

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Originally Posted by ziggyjuarez

@art
I was just trying to imply that apple is a brand name a lot of people go for because it's in.not really a bad thing.we all do it.

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Again, this is just like your Adidas analogy. Apple is not a good brand. It is a popular brand. There is a difference. Good brands are Falcon Northwest (computers), Lenovo (tablets), Zune (music), and Nokia (phones).

Apple makes some good products (when it comes to laptops and tablets especially), and then Apple makes bad products (TV sets, music players, desktops and phones especially). The standard separation between the two categories is how Apple stacks up against the competition. Purchases should be made based on a needs vs. value system, not an elitism association.

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Originally Posted by ziggyjuarez

Eww old people shoes:sick:I own a nice pair of Stacy Adams for church.have an opinion on that?
Ps theyre my only shoes that have Valcro.

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Yeah, it's kind of silly to go to church when there is no such thing as god.

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Originally Posted by ziggyjuarez

Eww old people shoes:sick:I own a nice pair of Stacy Adams for church.have an opinion on that?

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Disgusting leather, flimsy heels. Otherwise, solid shoes (when you pick the suede options, at least) and comfortable sizing options. Doesn't quite match up to the stuff I mentioned.

And they're not "old people shoes". They are shoes to stay looking sharp.