The ever powerful*nuh-uh*.
You might as well surrender now, Idol.
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I don't surrender. That's why the suicide vest.
I have yet to force anyone to resort to that...
Meg, your impression of "nuh-uh" does you no credit.
Cite your proofs or concede the point.
The Irony here is when Meg looks in the mirror, the only thing he sees is stupidity staring back at him;)...
J2K4, You are trying to have a conversation with a person that has zero knowledge about the Middle East and who controls a large portion of it....
90% of what goes on in the Middle East is never reported in the US or Canada, and the other 10% reported is used to Bash Trump...
And common sense would tell you that if Trump was in bed with Putin?? Why is he protecting the oil fields in Syria?? Love to here the spin he may have on that??
And a pop quiz Meg... Who controls the air militarily in Syria??
And congratulations to the US military and Trump for killing 2 of the worst people on the planet, without losing a single American soldier or animal life :clap:
Edit: And i give Idol a pass, for reasons his post intentions were to just hate on Trump and nothing else.
My point was merely a summary of your statement, which was ironic in the sense that you then demanded proof and 'particulars' from Idol.
To give you evidence of the Putin/oligarchy connection would require me to comb through the entire puppet/puppy presidency, which has pained me endlessly even watching through my periphery.
@shay-- I wasn't aware there's a Fox 'News' Middle East channel. :idunno:
Trump is protecting the oil fields in Syria and willing to put American lives on the line for that and not for something as inconsequential as civilian life because he's a greedy psychopath with a small penis. Fact.
The air in Syria is ruled primarily by buzzards. They want you to believe that it's ruled by ibis' but no way any ibis has ever defeated a buzzard in a dogfight. Fact.
Good for our ruthless killers for putting an end to their ruthless killers. Glad for the animals as well. Now that's settled and the dogs are safe maybe finally this administration can get back to allowing more toxins to be dumped in the environment, more protected land turned over to the oil/mining industry and more animals removed from the endangered species list.
Btw I only hate on those deserving of it. Unlike the conservative assholes who are consistently willing to tear down better men will lies to protecttheir own interestsTrump. ie money money money.
What a joke.....
Stop looking in the mirror buddy, it is not helping you....Now i think you have foot in mouth disease, how many times i haveQuote:
@shay-- I wasn't aware there's a Fox 'News' Middle East channel. :idunno:
posted links from Middle Eastern sites ;)...Left and Right leaning... I hope Idol would back me up on that....
And At least Idols' reply shows he really knows nothing, but wants to see honest people in politics, his intentions are good but
that is a pipe dream on any side..
Since Trudeau got back in here, i was thinking of moving to Venezuela or Jeffry Epstein's private island, because i see such a
huge change in my life....
And you got it wrong, on the Buzzards.....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nf1bx37lh_M
If I knew absolutely nothing about the Middle East I would still know twice as much about the Middle East than I'll probably ever need to. As for the Socrates quotes, I think you're saying it's all Greek to you.
That and for "backing you up", only an idiot puts himself in the middle of two of his friends fighting. I figure left alone you'll kiss and make up or else one of you will will kill the other. Either way, hopelessly that will shut both of you the fuck up. :)
Were you on an extended potty-break, shaina?
And yeah, let's you-all have a tussle - love to see an old-time FST shit-show...hell, I wouldn't even get anything on me if I dabble a bit. ;)
Truth, i was going to take a break, and let your friend Barbs post and have some interesting conversations:rolleyes:.
Barbs and Shay quick Twitter conversation....
Barbs: Sup...
Shay: My penis is Sup buddy do you want to come suck on it??
Barbs: Sur snd air ticket n i B thr ....
Anyways, when i see stupidity posted by some, it just pulls me back in J2K4;)..
I understand and respect everyone's opinions , but when there is no possibilities of it ever becoming reality, i do draw the line...Better yet fact from fiction,
or better yet every far Left or Far Right conception of reality....The middle always seem to work for the majority, even know others will never admit defeat;)
This is on my mind.....
The new packaging....
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But this is ok and accepted....
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This makes a lot of sense to me......
For you Idol...
Canadian Packaging.... $24.60 -$27 per tin...
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American Packaging... $3 -$7 per tin......
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Both come packaged from the US, and your concept of cost being a deterrence was the reason in pricing, is still the dumbest thing i have ever heard,
again luv to know where all of that tax collected (internal tax plus the HST!!!) is really going:yup:. It sure ain't improving our health care here......
I used to chew this flavor, but it started to give me heartburn...
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J2K4: I assume they sell Skoal in the UK, be curious how much they charge in your town/city??
The dumbest thing I ever heard was not only that someone would willingly ingest something known to cause cancer but that they would actually also pay for it.
Also don't some recent studies out of Canada suggest that vaping may actually be worse for you than smoking? I ask because I don't generally pay much attention to tobacco and tobacco users beyond they can all go and fuck themselves.
Your are right.. And.......
Yes that was my point, so why the double standards on packaging/advertisement... So....Quote:
Also don't some recent studies out of Canada suggest that vaping may actually be worse for you than smoking?
Well in the back of your mind you should, because that tax is collected for our supposed social services, if that doesn't exists,Quote:
I ask because I don't generally pay much attention to tobacco and tobacco users beyond they can all go and fuck themselves.
what then..
Do you think they should ban all tobacco, narcotics, alcohol, marijuana (of all kind) because they are not good for you??
Don't ban it. That doesn't work. Look at American alcohol prohibition in the 1920s and the never ending unsuccessful war on drugs. Make it all legal and tax it. Use the money to fund healthcare and infrastructure. The problem is governments are wasteful and bad at fiscal responsibility. Their is no oversight and even if there is, it doesn't get enforced.
All of the unhealthy products available in our "free" countries are why healthcare is expensive (including other reasons). All of it should be taxed extra to help pay for healthcare. If people like having the freedom to eat/drink/use unhealthy products that end up putting an unnecessary burden on our healthcare systems, they should have to pay for it. Not the people that don't consume that crap.
So you are ok with having children vaping?? And dying!!!!, or addiction caused by sexy advertisement?? Hmmmmm!!!!
What about the 190 million Americans that have paid healthcare?? They should pay for the people that don't?? Or get a much worse system and be
penalized because they have good jobs??
Back and Forth and Back and Forth we can go!!! Right now your Moderate Democrats don't agree with socialized health care, only the pulled left wing pipe
dreamers or the Communists thinker that fail at math and lie how it is going to be paid for do;)....
You Americans have no fucking idea what tax is!!! If you had to pay half of the taxes we pay here you couldn't feed your children!!! Again forget it because
it is never going to happen in your lifetime, or mine, so even having a debate on this is useless.... Warren's 52 Trillion dollar Health Care dream will never
work, and what about free School and everything else??and Biden's Idea may or may not work either....
All this shit you hear is crap to win a Primary!!!, once there is a nominee, it will all change and become more moderate policies....
I asked myself this!!! And it doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure this out buddy... We have a Green Party here that thinks like your left wing nutbags in
the US, and here you see tons of protests and rallies and all kinds of shit!!! Now wouldn't you think they are voters??!! The Green Party got 3 fucking seats
buddy!!!!
Again pipe dreams are pipe dreams, and some are valid, but not at the expense of not having the funds to feed your families.. You only see on the news
the extreme Left and the extreme Right!!!.. It is such a small amount of voters that it means fuck all!!!!...
Again your country and my country are divided right now, but we still have to live, all of us!!! So somewhere in the middle there is logical things you just
have to accept.....
The same look at the Democrat dominate Cities and look at the Republican cities, which ones are better off?? If you look at the map here and how people
voted?? It was Unbelievable buddy....
Saying i don't like you because you think that way or the way i think isn't going to change shit!!!, take the fucking positives out of any Government and that
is that!!!
You don't like Trump!!!, really i don't give a shit!!!, i like some of the Reps policies and some the Dems, you know the ones that make sense for the majority,
not the few That will never be happy no matter what!!!!....
Just remember that every time we argue about the same exact shit buddy.......Thank G-D you have a roof over your head food in your belly, and you wake
up every day to see the sun ;)
Last I recollect anyone mentioning it, chew or cigarettes were in the neighborhood of 7-8 American dollars per can/pack.
I agree as to the stupidity of tobacco use: I say this as one who smoked from the age of about 15 (when my athletic career ended abruptly) to the age of 44, when I had my first heart attack.
Vaping seems to have become subject to shysterism right out of the box - "legitimate" products have been spoofed, the market for these products has become rife with dangerous substances distributed outside the marginally effective regulatory 'box' the Feds
institute to assure some semblance of quality while collecting taxes.
The argument that the casualty-count stems from these abuses cannot be adequately countered at this point.
These is talk of outlawing "vaping" until product legitimacy can somehow be assured.
To me, any/all of these habits demonstrate the human bent toward natural selection - it's like declaring war...on oneself.
Actually studies do show that vaping is a method of getting people off the addiction of cigarettes, and there is some positive studies it is working....
The bigger issue is sexing up the product and getting the younger generation addicted, and we are talking about kids that never smoked....
The proof of that is the selection of the flavors sold etc... The same the studies of the deaths shown people were mixing/blending THC oil products and vaping
oils as well....
I do also think that everyone is entitled to there opinion on tobacco or anything deemed to be bad for your health, but that is choice of an individual if they choose to do it or not..
Just Thinking.....
You know i go to many different media outlets be it news, twitter etc... And i laugh while i read all the comments be it positive and negative about Trump....
Now lets go back to the Apprentice and how many millions of people tuned in to watch the show every single week LOL!!!, and i like to get a count of all the
haters who watched it LOL!!!..I mean the ratings prove that people were watching it!! I mean Trump still has lip prints on his ass from NBC for the cash
they made off of his show!!!!
Now they want him hung in Times Square LOL!!!
It is too bad that i don't post on anywhere but here, because that would be a good thing to post on all these sites, to call out all of these hypocrites hating
on the guy LOL!!!...
Again that is where i say the truth is, no matter who the fuck is the figure head of the Republican party, half of America just doesn't like it, and vise versa on
the Democrats....
Now really if you go back in time, the roles were reversed in the parties. The Democratic party was the worst racists, on the planet!!, and the Republicans
were more neutral...
I really think it always goes back to what i have said from the beginning, party name means shit today!!, you really do have to read the agenda/policies
every party has....
Still it is funny how getting the supposed most prestigious job on the planet, puts a bullseye on you, regardless if you do right or wrong:)
Really you are better off being the owner of Microsoft then being the President of the United States....
Reprinting this with the permission of it's author: Me.
I plead pure-heartedConservative - MY definition; I don't care what yours is.
I'm gonna take a swing at this, one time only.
I was not sanguine about Trump, not at all, from the outset - my conclusion was, "well, he's finally going to try it", then I dismissed him.
As a political animal, I was willing to speculate, however - full admission, here; my little sister knows him well - she's worked with him and occasionally for him.
The last time was as a disinterested party when he decided to sue a journalist who had the temerity to say Trump wasn't a billionaire.
Anyway- she had informed me she thought he was a bit of a pig, and she had decided she no longer wanted to deal with him, and so did not.
Leap forward to 2016:
Her opinion had not changed, but even knowing him as she did, she voted for him over Hillary, whom she does NOT know.
Anyway, after a few debates, I concluded - though there were enough bodies on the stage to fully-staff an executive and cabinet - the boredom and despair had commenced.
Trump stuck out like a sore thumb, of course - ignorant, ineloquent...and the media LOVED him - couldn't get enough of him.
Of the rest, no one stuck out except Carly Fiorina (who had been deprived of her gender as a Republican).
All the usual suspects (Bush/Kasich, etc.) sucked.
Meanwhile we all got our fill of Trump.
Polls (which have been rightfully pounded for several election cycles) had been trying to compensate by polling for EVERYTHING...but not - interestingly - for Democrat fence-jumpers who couldn't stomach HRC.
This, I figured, was because the powers-that-be knew many would find her unpalatable, and realized they needed to get as much air under her skirts as they could.
The entirety of election season, no such data was sought.
In the meantime, Trump began playing a chord no one had heard, previously.
This was signaled faintly by the media's picking at him - it was apparent (to me, at any rate) that, on the off-chance he was elected, the media would soon become highly disenchanted with him and his antics.
I began to pay attention.
Long story short, I decided that, as Trump had not lived a life of reputational hygiene, and the media would pre-occupy itself with 'Trump stories", the end-result could be very interesting.
The analogy I developed was Trump 'upsetting the apple-cart'.
It goes up on two wheels, apples begin tumbling, but apart from general upset, nothing really happens until the cart hits the ground - this is what we're currently seeing.
So-
He gets elected, and the Show commences.
I continue to bemoan his rhetorical clumsiness and seeming general ignorance, but he's a master of timing, and he really DOES have an idea where he wants this country to go, which is UP.
Of course, if he'd listen to ME, he'd be much more popular and admired - goes without saying.
He's not what we're used-to, but it IS "the economy, stupid", certain conventions will die (as they should), and the media will just have to get sorted before it cannibalizes itself.
I'm along for the ride, as we all are - he will not be impeached, and I'm pretty damned sure he's going to emerge from this current upset unscathed.
Prior to the election, it was apparent every crystal ball in existence was defective...I found some tea leaves, however, and I read them regularly.
I am not inclined off-hand to share, as people tend to get upset at my surety about certain things, but frankly, after the last election, I found my self wondering if the Left was just over-confident or desperate.
It's the latter.
There's more, of course, but...`
Did your sister work with him in the Business sector?? Or just when he announced and campaign??
Unbelievable!!!, honestly i never pegged you as an American!!
Great article, but as i said the far left and the far right are not as big as the media make them, it is the people in the middle that voted him in....
Now the question really?? If the DNC in 2016 wasn't rigged do you think Sanders would have won?? And after i rinse my mouth out from the bit of throw
up, i have thinking if he did!! I am not sure who would have been worse Sanders or Clinton??
Funny when you say the media loved him, i assume you mean in a negative way or better yet knew they despised him but made every news media outlet
skyrocket in ratings no matter if they were for him or against him:lol:.....
What also really amazes me is i would have to say that pretty much every Republican politician despised Trump, but seeing what he did they now respect
him!!!!...That just showed in the retarded farce Impeachment investigation vote LOL!!!!
"I continue to bemoan his rhetorical clumsiness and seeming general ignorance, but he's a master of timing, and he really DOES have an idea where he
wants this country to go, which is UP."
Just reading that sentence, i really don't understand why people can't see that?? Anyone saying they are a Conservative opens up a very broad spectrum
of thinking yet if you are so extremely Left, that is not going to change there minds, hens when 2020 comes, it will be very interesting on everyone up for
election.....
To finish.... In my opinion, This impeachment crap is going to backfire on the Democrat party.. Pelosi fucked up and she knows it!!!
She is a shrewd smart woman but she got caught and pushed into a corner!!! How she gets out of this i have no idea???
My sister has worked for his retainers as well as those who've opposed him.
She first experienced him during the Empire State building/Leona Helmsley thing, which began 25-odd years ago, if memory serves.
There're several stories there...
Hillary would have been even worse than Bernie, though both of them want to erase America.
Huh? I say, what you talkin 'bout,Willis?
Interesting and i can imagine some of those stories are jaw droppers...
Thank G-D it didn't happen, and funny they worry about Trump, if they ever did remove him, do they really think Pence is better?? There is no ModerateQuote:
Hillary would have been even worse than Bernie, though both of them want to erase America.
connected to him;)...
The other thing i don't understand is even know the US is divided big time, who ever did vote for the Republicans are not disappointed, they are coming
through with all of there policies/agenda they said on there campaign, and he is improving the lives of people that didn't even vote for him?? That is why i
say you watch the media an if they dislike Trump or the Republican party, they don't report anything positive!!!. That's why i don't believe any of the poles
either, the Republicans got in big time!!, the polling was
full of shit!!!.. Now you take the takeover of the House, that happened because of that Russian hoax shit!! And false promises Now all of that is done and
the Democrats are not doing shit!!
I really think the people are sick and tired of listening to the lies against Trump.. And it is those middle Moderate voters that will make the difference...
Now we wait for the Horowitz and Durham's report.. Fuck all will happen probably but it will give American voters something to think about;)
Again just my opinion....
Edit: UFC update... So far 2 big knockouts!!! and no visual of Trump, but Dana mentioned he was excited he was coming to see the fights.....
You guys don't seem to get the gist of The Deceleration of Independence. Guess because there's no mention of money in it.
That is the purest vision of America, not the fucking stock market and a bunch of corrupt pseudo-nobility.Quote:
We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. — That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, — That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.
PS Not a hoax. The Russians did inference in the election to benefit Trump. There was also a willingness on the Trump side to accept this "aid".
The Dems btw have sent dozens bills to the Senate all to be killed by one sort of a man. Mitch McConnell. Maybe they weren't good bills but cuntface wouldn't even allow them to be voted on. Democracy, not. If you want to blame anyone for lack of action blame him.
As for the media, I suppose they have this problem of having eyes and ears and functioning brains.
Prove that, please.
Also tell me why you think Putie would have preferred Trump over HRC?
The Russians have been meddling - to whatever extent they've been able - in our elections for the last hundred years or so.
Social media gives them more avenues-of-attack than ever, of course, but the very idea they would prefer Trump is so silly as to beggar belief.
It doesn't tell you where the closest bathroom is either... Come on Idol, you live in Canada for fuck sake!!!!
In any successful Country, the economy is strong!!, forget greed buddy, but the economy must be strong and jobs as well, then the select security health etc.....
That is reality and you know it....
Yes they did interfere, you are right and so does the US and Canada interfere in Elections, are you going to deny that!!! Clinton had more dealings with
Russia , she was fucking secretary of state!!! She was part of the Iran fucking deal, and she got tons of money from the Russians for here fake corrupt
Charity!!! So!!!, Trump was cleared from Russia collusion, 40 million dollars in cost to the tax payers !!!!We are still waiting for the Truth on Clinton!!! Ya i
know you don't see any of that in the places you go to get your news buddy, but if Trump or his campaign didn't collude with the Russians, then who the
fuck really did!!!
Next you bring in voter suppression and Gerrymandering, and every excuse in the book!!! The Democrats just had 8 fucking years in the White House, and
nothing when it comes to voting or interference has changed!!!
The Democrats lost because they didn't want Clinton in the White House!!! There was 2 bad candidates and the better of the worst won, and by a big
margin as well....
The Green Party here got 3 fucking seats, the Quebec Party beat out the NDP!!!, the PC won the popular vote!!!. The Liberals won a minority
Government.... So???!!!
Our system here and the pay structures and our tax structures would never fucking work in the US!!!, it is jut not built that way......Our government
controls too fucking much And there is no fucking civilian over-site!!!... Why the fuck would you want more government control!!!!
It is like you are a hypocrite buddy , you want honest people in charge?? Well there is none!!! Now you hope that what they did say they were going to do
and implement it!!!!
Fucking fossil fuels are needed, cows are needed, if you don't want to eat or use them it is your right!!!, but if i do, what gives you the fucking right to say
what i choose to do!!!...
We live in a Democratic Society If that is not to your liking?? Plenty of Socialists Communists places to live... I want less fucking Government control and
choices!!!!..
I am not sure what you are looking for buddy....
Sure your right, even on the bills being shit!!!, But what about the ones like the bill to fix medicine pricing?? or the revamped usmca trade deal or
infrastructure deals that already have bipartisan support, but because it will Give Trump a win Pelosi is not doing shit!!!!... Did they not mention that on the
sites you go to buddy:)
Both sides have excuses but they should be caring about the people and not there games and whining politics, that is the problem when you give 400
people to take care of 300 million!!! My kids are right!!! If it is a major thing that is life changing to the people, they should get to vote on it!!!, and i mean
the Electoral College!!. That way every state has a say!!!
I asked the question to MacGyver now i will ask you!!!, You look at all media sites and i fucking mean ones that show both sides of the coin, and you look at
states controlled by Democrats and look at ones that Republicans control?? Which ones seem to look better?? All around Housing?? Cost of living??
Services?? Homeless?? and anything that tickles your fancy you want to add and rate??
Do you think PEI and Ontario are the same?? Would you live in Sudbury vs where you live?? Is Calgary and Vancouver the same?? Why the fuck is my
taxes going to help people in Calgary!!! Do i fucking live there or benefit from that?? Why is it not staying in Ontario!!!! Why do i pay more taxes in Ontario
vs other provinces ??!!
Idol: Ok buddy forget all the back and forth with Trump bullshit !!
Here is a link read the report and tell me what you think......
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/aoc...es-in-new-york
I will wait for your comments;)
Even petty shit like this crap!!!!
https://www.cnn.com/2019/11/02/polit...den/index.html
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/tru...-new-york-city
Which one is the truth!!! I am watching the fucking fights!!! The Russians hacked the cameras and the sound , and bounced the links from the
Ukraine:lol:......
UFC Update.... diaz vs masvidal... Bullshit stoppage!!!!
Put!n wanted Tr*mp because he knew Hillary would not get rid of the sanctions on Russia. Put!n knows Tr*mp is an idiot. Easy to manipulate. And most likely Put!n has dirt on Tr*mp. Plus, many of the people running/involved with Tr*mp's campaign have/had relations with Russia(ns). Tr*mp himself has been dealing with Russians for years. Nobody else would let him borrow money. Tr*mp was a way to clean dirty money.
shaina, Cows are not needed. Beef and milk are bad for humans. Humans would be much healthier if they didn't consume food and beverage products from cows.
Most republican controlled states are in bad shape (they control 2/3 of the states). The only thing they have going for them is a lower cost of living. But that is because those states are mostly wide open country where nobody wants to live. Move into the large metropolitan areas of those states and the cost of living is expensive. The republican controlled states look nice in the city/town centers and tourist areas (maintained by cheap labor, illegals), but the rest of the state is a shit-hole. There are more homeless in the republican states (weather a factor, and republicans don't support "services"). Jobs pay more in Democrat states. Partially why cost of living is higher. Why do you think medical school costs so much today? Because doctors get paid a lot of money today.
The Electoral College should be gone. It worked for the most part back in the day when most people lived either on the east or west coasts. Now plenty of people live in the middle of the country. It's just not needed anymore. Plus, gerrymandering allows elections to be stolen. Every other election is decided by whomever gets the highest number of votes, I don't see why President shouldn't be any different. If you want to keep the Electoral College, then every state should have the number of senators and representatives that represent it based on population. North Dakota has a population of 672,591 people. California has a population of 37,253,956 people. Yet both have two senators. The system needs to be updated.
Utter shit, that.
I said proof.
More shit, starting from the opening sentence.
Put down the Koolaid and step away from the pitcher.
I am going to do you a small favor - I am going to tell you how to begin to think about things...
Begin by ditching your ideological trappings, whatever they may be - stop thinking about things in terms of Left/Right, Liberal/Conservative, Democrat/Republican.
Instead, think of Urban vs Suburban/Rural.
Got that?
Now, explain San Francisco.
If you can manage to effectively blame that on the Right/Conservative/Republican contingent, go no further - you're beyond salvation.
Once you've properly concluded why San Francisco is the way it is, think again about the Electoral College and try to defend doing away with it.
Do it now.
You are 1000% fucking right......And there will be zero responses!!!!!
Talk is cheap!!!!, til you live across any country and experience it .....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NXpsA_qQZqc
Now put the wrong people in control of a State and see what happens!!!, they turn it into shit!!!!!
Edit: I saw this in the comment section on a news site....
"Good news California is burning up, 5 million illegals are shop liftng the entire state, Pelosis front yard is now a toilet for 300 thousand homeless and Pelosi does not have the votes in the senate. Good job Pelosi. Liberalism is a failure."
Is this a lie??