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Those two little fans HAVE to be blowing directly onto whatever Maxtor is using as their temp reporter, thus skewing the readings.
If they were as efficient as your (defective) HDD monitor says I wouldn't hesitate for a second to use them on my HS. You could freeze that bad boy.
wat do u mean defective? i got it from the link u gave meQuote:
Originally posted by clocker@10 December 2003 - 19:55
Those two little fans HAVE to be blowing directly onto whatever Maxtor is using as their temp reporter, thus skewing the readings.
If they were as efficient as your (defective) HDD monitor says I wouldn't hesitate for a second to use them on my HS. You could freeze that bad boy.
Listen... If the drive is below ambient then the more air you blow on it the warmer it will get.
Anyway this has become completely ridiculous now.
Hey abu, don't you get it yet? Your readings cannot be right so there is a defect.Quote:
wat do u mean defective?
6 pages of this and you still don't get it? :blink: :blink: :blink:
lol. i'm just trying to figure this out just like u guys are. i'm not braggin or anything. maybe maxtors run cooler than seagates?Quote:
Originally posted by Virtualbody1234@10 December 2003 - 20:19
Listen... If the drive is below ambient then the more air you blow on it the warmer it will get.
Anyway this has become completely ridiculous now.
I'm not tryng to figure this out, abu. I'm trying to tell you that there is a defect.
You just won't believe it.
maybe lamsey could shine some wisedom on this matter. yo lamsey, help us out here. i'm just as confused about this as clocker and vb, happy, but confused
I'm not confused and stop saying that I am. :angry:Quote:
i'm just as confused about this as clocker and vb
This is not a competition between Seagate and Maxtor, abu.Quote:
maybe maxtors run cooler than seagates?
You just aren't getting acurate readings. Something is wrong.
Of all people, abu, you should know better than questioning my knowledge.
Are you saying that Lamsey has more knowledge than me about this, abu?
BTW, the Laws of Physics are the same in Scotland, you know.
So lets see, (sorry I stumbled in on this late.)
Abu has Hard drive temps that are supposdly below ambient temp, (which is the temp for the surrounding air.) He claims he is getting this, by having hard drive coolings fans, blow that ambient temperature, onto his hard drive.
Essentially , by blowing ambient air onto his hard drive, he has attained a temperature below ambient..... <_<
Abu, if I may ask, what are your thoughts on perpetual motion? :lol:
Serious though, either the temp sensor is wrong, OR, that prog u have is reading the wrong sensors, for instance, the motherboard temp shown could easily be a power supply temp, and the Hard drive temp could thus be the motherboard temp.
now, if that were true, I could believe all the temps, but thats just rediclious how it looks now.
lol for sum reason i find this thread really funny mayb move it to the funny stuff section ? lol :lol: :lol:
well, if my hd was the temp of my cpu and mobo, it'll be hot when i put my finger on it rite? well, it's colder than my mouse rite now.
hey. chill. i'm asking for the opinion of another hardware guru. i'm not saying he's better than u. i just want more opinions. cuz u and clocker are certainly not reaching a conclusion. and no, the temp sensor is not messed up. that's for sureQuote:
Originally posted by Virtualbody1234@10 December 2003 - 20:30
I'm not confused and stop saying that I am. :angry:Quote:
i'm just as confused about this as clocker and vb
This is not a competition between Seagate and Maxtor, abu.Quote:
maybe maxtors run cooler than seagates?
You just aren't getting acurate readings. Something is wrong.
Of all people, abu, you should know better than questioning my knowledge.
Are you saying that Lamsey has more knowledge than me about this, abu?
BTW, the Laws of Physics are the same in Scotland, you know.
After playing my GBA emulator for about a minute and a half:
http://www.chinkii.com/uploads/album...rackhead2k.jpg
That can't be good....
holy shit. 80C? wow. my cpu 2 is 63 C. but i think it's a sensor error. but 49 after playing gba? wow. mine's around 42 after playing gbaQuote:
Originally posted by KrackHead2k@11 December 2003 - 01:02
After playing my GBA emulator for about a minute and a half:
http://www.chinkii.com/uploads/album...rackhead2k.jpg
That can't be good....
I had a problem a really long time ago that I kinda just ignored. When I play most games, or when my CPU is under a heavy load, my computer will freeze. I think this might be why. I was using WinRAR to zip a really big file, the temp was at 85C and still rising, I got worried and hit cancel. :(
HELP!
do u have a hsf on ur cpu? hsf is heatsink and fanQuote:
Originally posted by KrackHead2k@11 December 2003 - 01:14
I had a problem a really long time ago that I kinda just ignored. When I play most games, or when my CPU is under a heavy load, my computer will freeze. I think this might be why. I was using WinRAR to zip a really big file, the temp was at 85C and still rising, I got worried and hit cancel. :(
HELP!
I have one CPU fan, no heatsink.
that's not possible. there must be something between the cpu and the fan. u mean the fan is rite next to the cpu?Quote:
Originally posted by KrackHead2k@11 December 2003 - 01:55
I have one CPU fan, no heatsink.
Yeah I think the fan is right next to the CPU. Is that a bad thing? I'm a total hardware noob.
well, ur fan won't disappate too much heat without a hs. i think that's y ur cpu is overheating. wat's ur cpu?Quote:
Originally posted by KrackHead2k@11 December 2003 - 01:55
I have one CPU fan, no heatsink.
wat is temp 2 and 3? change the names so they make more sense
well, ur fan won't disappate too much heat without a hs. i think that's y ur cpu is overheating. wat's ur cpu?Quote:
Originally posted by abu_has_the_power+10 December 2003 - 22:59--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (abu_has_the_power @ 10 December 2003 - 22:59)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-KrackHead2k@11 December 2003 - 01:55
I have one CPU fan, no heatsink.
wat is temp 2 and 3? change the names so they make more sense [/b][/quote]
I'm on a 1.6GHz Pentium 4. I don't know what Temp 2 and 3 are exactly, so I don't know what names to put. I also think my CPU is overheating.
You're +/-5v look kinda wonky too...
i would check temps in your bios, as speedfan says ive got a 2000c part in my pc :lol:
Just a little info about the hdd temp situation.
The documentation for speedfan says he doesn't completely understand the info coming from SMART. Apparently I've got a catastrophic raw read error rate, according to speedfan. But not according to the WD diagnostics.
I would not be surprised to find that similar problems exist in his interpretation of the temp reported by the hdd, since I believe this also comes from the SMART info.
Abu, I suggest you download diagnostics from Maxtor, and see what THEY say the temp is.
nvidia guarantees all chips to their maximum threshold (depending on avg temp). max avg threshold is 130°C
funny how, no matter how hot a chip gets, it is never above the threshold!
ATI: 90°C
Matrox: 120°C
nvidia cards produce more heat (explains the higher clocks)
matrox just feels like guaranteeing it that high
ATI should have pushed it higher, as its chips are on the obsolete 150nm scale, and thus, produce more heat (but they dont because ATI knows how to be efficient)
Just found out (via speedfan) that my fan is no longer spinning and my duron 650 is at 73 degrees centigrade....I think i will be paying a visit to the hardware shop tommorow lol
i can't seem to find the thing on maxtor.com. maybe provide a link lynx?Quote:
Originally posted by lynx@11 December 2003 - 15:59
Just a little info about the hdd temp situation.
The documentation for speedfan says he doesn't completely understand the info coming from SMART. Apparently I've got a catastrophic raw read error rate, according to speedfan. But not according to the WD diagnostics.
I would not be surprised to find that similar problems exist in his interpretation of the temp reported by the hdd, since I believe this also comes from the SMART info.
Abu, I suggest you download diagnostics from Maxtor, and see what THEY say the temp is.
and btw, here's my temps now (just turned it on)
http://www.freewebs.com/ihaveabu/newest%20temp.JPG
http://www.freewebs.com/ihaveabu/newest%20temp.JPG
i'm guessing since everyone's having probs, it might be wrong. but then, the hd prog that clocker gave me gives the same temps
helloQuote:
Originally posted by _John_Lennon_@11 December 2003 - 02:20
So lets see, (sorry I stumbled in on this late.)
Abu has Hard drive temps that are supposdly below ambient temp, (which is the temp for the surrounding air.) He claims he is getting this, by having hard drive coolings fans, blow that ambient temperature, onto his hard drive.
Essentially , by blowing ambient air onto his hard drive, he has attained a temperature below ambient..... <_<
Abu, if I may ask, what are your thoughts on perpetual motion? :lol:
Serious though, either the temp sensor is wrong, OR, that prog u have is reading the wrong sensors, for instance, the motherboard temp shown could easily be a power supply temp, and the Hard drive temp could thus be the motherboard temp.
now, if that were true, I could believe all the temps, but thats just rediclious how it looks now.
This topic is all over the place :o john what type of case are you using and how many fans? My 2500+ will go that fast but I can't keep it under 60C at full load? I know amd says your safe up to 90 but over sixty things start crashin... :unsure:
Progs shouldnt really start crashing at X temperature, but i think maybe it might just freeze at a certain point.
And also, I have one 2300RPM intake on the lower front of my case, one LED 2700 Exhaust in the back, and stock AMD cooling HS/F. And the PSU fan of course.
Also, I am using some thermal paste that I got from my dad. ^_^ He is a food service technician. *works at restaurants fixing equipment, so he had some lying around.
It never goes above 60 now.
Crappy webcam pic of it, its a bit dark in here.
http://www.freewebs.com/ashesofyouth...0of%20case.JPG
@ Abu Thanks for showing that freeweb pic, looks like a good place to host pics, how is your expereince with it?
so far so good. kinda slow when downloading something big, but it's a reliable pic hosterQuote:
Originally posted by _John_Lennon_@11 December 2003 - 18:55
Progs shouldnt really start crashing at X temperature, but i think maybe it might just freeze at a certain point.
And also, I have one 2300RPM intake on the lower front of my case, one LED 2700 Exhaust in the back, and stock AMD cooling HS/F. And the PSU fan of course.
Also, I am using some thermal paste that I got from my dad. ^_^ He is a food service technician. *works at restaurants fixing equipment, so he had some lying around.
It never goes above 60 now.
Crappy webcam pic of it, its a bit dark in here.
http://www.freewebs.com/ashesofyouth...0of%20case.JPG
@ Abu Thanks for showing that freeweb pic, looks like a good place to host pics, how is your expereince with it?
hey lynx, think u can give me the link to this maxtor temp reader? i can't find it on their siteQuote:
Originally posted by lynx@11 December 2003 - 15:59
Just a little info about the hdd temp situation.
The documentation for speedfan says he doesn't completely understand the info coming from SMART. Apparently I've got a catastrophic raw read error rate, according to speedfan. But not according to the WD diagnostics.
I would not be surprised to find that similar problems exist in his interpretation of the temp reported by the hdd, since I believe this also comes from the SMART info.
Abu, I suggest you download diagnostics from Maxtor, and see what THEY say the temp is.
Abu, I don't think that the programs are at fault.Quote:
Originally posted by abu_has_the_power@11 December 2003 - 15:50
i'm guessing since everyone's having probs, it might be wrong. but then, the hd prog that clocker gave me gives the same temps
I believe that you cooler rig is artificially affecting whatever component that SMART is using to monitor the temps.
The programs are correctly reporting flawed sensor input.
Abu, I don't think that the programs are at fault.Quote:
Originally posted by clocker+11 December 2003 - 20:51--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (clocker @ 11 December 2003 - 20:51)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-abu_has_the_power@11 December 2003 - 15:50
i'm guessing since everyone's having probs, it might be wrong. but then, the hd prog that clocker gave me gives the same temps
I believe that you cooler rig is artificially affecting whatever component that SMART is using to monitor the temps.
The programs are correctly reporting flawed sensor input. [/b][/quote]
well, if u mean that the fans are blowing rite on the sensor, wouldn't that mean the they're blowing ambient air of 25C?
if they're blowing ambient air to the sensor, wouldn't that make the temp high? plus, this is a new hd, so i doubt the sensor is broken. as i said b4, i put my hand on it, and it's pretty cold. colder than the room temp for sure
hey lynx, think u can give me the link to this maxtor temp reader? i can't find it on their site [/b][/quote]Quote:
Originally posted by abu_has_the_power+12 December 2003 - 00:26--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (abu_has_the_power @ 12 December 2003 - 00:26)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-lynx@11 December 2003 - 15:59
Just a little info about the hdd temp situation.
The documentation for speedfan says he doesn't completely understand the info coming from SMART. Apparently I've got a catastrophic raw read error rate, according to speedfan. But not according to the WD diagnostics.
I would not be surprised to find that similar problems exist in his interpretation of the temp reported by the hdd, since I believe this also comes from the SMART info.
Abu, I suggest you download diagnostics from Maxtor, and see what THEY say the temp is.
You'll notice i said I've got a WD drive.
I looked on Maxtor's site and found - nothing. What's the point of having a drive with these extra capabilities and then giving you no software to use them?
Another reason to buy/avoid a particular manufacturer - look at their support.
You'll notice i said I've got a WD drive.Quote:
Originally posted by lynx+12 December 2003 - 09:11--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (lynx @ 12 December 2003 - 09:11)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>Quote:
Originally posted by abu_has_the_power@12 December 2003 - 00:26
<!--QuoteBegin-lynx
Quote:
@11 December 2003 - 15:59
Just a little info about the hdd temp situation.
The documentation for speedfan says he doesn't completely understand the info coming from SMART. Apparently I've got a catastrophic raw read error rate, according to speedfan. But not according to the WD diagnostics.
I would not be surprised to find that similar problems exist in his interpretation of the temp reported by the hdd, since I believe this also comes from the SMART info.
Abu, I suggest you download diagnostics from Maxtor, and see what THEY say the temp is.
hey lynx, think u can give me the link to this maxtor temp reader? i can't find it on their site
I looked on Maxtor's site and found - nothing. What's the point of having a drive with these extra capabilities and then giving you no software to use them?
Another reason to buy/avoid a particular manufacturer - look at their support. [/b][/quote]
ok. my next pc will be a seagate or wd for sure. but i'll still keep this. so i'd have hmm..., 2 120gb and a 30gb. and maybe another 120gb. i'll need ot get a raid controller for 4 hds
Abu, you may be interested in this.
It just so happens that I have a HDD cooler very similar to yours.
Weeks ago I had modified it to accept a 80mm fan on a 80 to 60mm fan adaptor.
So it now has one 50mm fan and one 80mm fan.
As installed, it is pulling fresh exterior air through the case floor.
I also left the heatpipe cooler in place where any heat rising off of it is evacuated by the two front casefans.
Like so...
http://server4.uploadit.org/files2/1...HDD%20MOD4.JPG
Ambient case temp is 26.1C
http://server4.uploadit.org/files2/1...HDD%20MOD3.jpg
Odd, eh?
even more odd:
http://www.freewebs.com/ihaveabu/newest%20temp.JPG
http://www.freewebs.com/ihaveabu/newest%20temp.JPG
guess i was wrong. but rite now, my room temp is 20C
What is it with this obsession to cool down your HD?
Without any extra cooling than normal case airflow, my drive(s) run around 28C.
Aren't you just making more noise and adding more load to the PS for nothing?
Well actually 28.172 C. http://server4.uploadit.org/files2/121203-hddtemp.gif
:)
this is really amazing. i'm flabergasted (love that word :lol: )
http://www.freewebs.com/ihaveabu/amazing%20temps.JPG
http://www.freewebs.com/ihaveabu/amazing%20temps.JPG
and no, i didn't edit the pic. but i'm amazed too. but my room is freezing. it's like 15-20C in here. brrrrr...
Okay, I think I just noticed something.
The motherboard is 27C.
The Hard drive is 10C.
Guess what?
ITS RAINING IN YOUR CASE.
I mean honestly, shouldnt a person with temps that different be getting some kind of condensation in there or something?