Abu; what is the point in spending all of your money on a nice motherboard that you can OC to > 3.2GHz when your RAM cannot handle it?
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Abu; what is the point in spending all of your money on a nice motherboard that you can OC to > 3.2GHz when your RAM cannot handle it?
u must be talking bout the "prob same ram." part. I meant same ram as above (Corsair XMS PC3200)Quote:
Originally posted by adamp2p@22 January 2004 - 02:56
Abu; what is the point in spending all of your money on a nice motherboard that you can OC to > 3.2GHz when your RAM cannot handle it?
So is the prescott going to be 64 bit or what??
i don't think so.Quote:
Originally posted by bigdawgfoxx@22 January 2004 - 15:43
So is the prescott going to be 64 bit or what??
anyways, should i get the sp94 or not?
if i buy a oem case, what am i not getting? do i still get the spacers for the mobo?
I might be wrong here, but I think you want higher Ram for your OCing.....
This isnt AMD ocing, its Intel.
Might want to look into some 3700 or 4000. :)
many ppl ocing pretty well with pc3200. pc4000 is a little too extreme. now, answer my case question. cuz i need to know tonite!Quote:
Originally posted by _John_Lennon_@22 January 2004 - 23:12
I might be wrong here, but I think you want higher Ram for your OCing.....
This isnt AMD ocing, its Intel.
Might want to look into some 3700 or 4000. :)
Well I guess he could technically relax the timings a bit...Quote:
Originally posted by _John_Lennon_@22 January 2004 - 20:12
I might be wrong here, but I think you want higher Ram for your OCing.....
This isnt AMD ocing, its Intel.
Might want to look into some 3700 or 4000. :)
Well, prescott might be. But that is not the real issue with prescott. The real issue is whether it will be able to even perform at the level of the Pentium 4 at equal clockspeeds.Quote:
Originally posted by bigdawgfoxx@22 January 2004 - 12:43
So is the prescott going to be 64 bit or what??
Source: The registerQuote:
Intel has confirmed that its 'Prescott' processor features a long instruction pipeline than the current desktop Pentium 4. The announcement lends weight to media claims that the chip will run more slowly than its predecessor.
When Intel launched the P4, it upped the chip's pipeline to 20 stages, from ten. The move was widely criticised at the time because the greater the number of stages the more drastic the effect of pipeline stalls.
A stall takes place when the chip suddenly finds it has the wrong data. Sophisticated circuitry allows the chip to predict where a program is likely to take it and to pre-load and pre-process instructions that may be needed in the future. When it works, it keeps the processor fed with instructions, so it works more efficiently. When it goes wrong, the chip has to flush out the pipeline to rid itself of instructions and data it doesn't need.
And the longer the pipeline, the more pre-processed instructions and data have to be dumped before the chip can begin loading and handling the correct instructions.
Since pipeline stalls are inevitable, it might be sensible to limit the length of the pipeline. But longer pipelines are necessary to make ever higher clock frequencies operate efficiently. Ramp the clock speed high enough, and pipeline stalls and their repair take less time. That's what's happened as the P4 went beyond 3GHz - the kind of speed the 20-stage pipeline was designed for.
Other chip makers, less keen on offering as steep a clock frequency growth curve as Intel, can get away with shorter pipelines, but need other ways of boosting a chip's performance, such as the ability to handle multiple instructions at the same time.
An Intel spokesman this week told Cnet that Prescott has a longer pipeline that Northwood, the current, 130nm version of the P4. He wouldn't say how much longer the Prescott pipeline is, but 30 stages seems a reasonable estimate.
And just as the PIII proved faster than the early P4s in some applications, it's likely that Northwood will similarly prove faster than Prescott, which has clearly been designed for speeds of the order of 4GHz - which is what Intel's internal roadmaps suggest it's destined for by the end of this year.
the prescott will have a 3.4 stock cpu. so u start out at 3.4
No, abu, you don't get it, do you: The point is, Prescott clocked at 3.4 GHz and 1 MB L2 cache may not perform as well as a Northwood Pentium 4 also clocked at 3.4 GHz with 512 Kb L2 cache due to the fact that the Prescott with have an approximately 30 stage pipeline as opposed to the Pentium 4 which has a 20 stage pipeline.Quote:
Originally posted by abu_has_the_power@22 January 2004 - 20:44
the prescott will have a 3.4 stock cpu. so u start out at 3.4
No, abu, you don't get it, do you: The point is, Prescott clocked at 3.4 GHz and 1 MB L2 cache may not perform as well as a Northwood Pentium 4 also clocked at 3.4 GHz with 512 Kb L2 cache. [/b][/quote]Quote:
Originally posted by adamp2p+23 January 2004 - 02:58--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (adamp2p @ 23 January 2004 - 02:58)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-abu_has_the_power@22 January 2004 - 20:44
the prescott will have a 3.4 stock cpu. so u start out at 3.4
ok... wat don't i get? :wacko: :huh:
can somebody please fukin answer my question bout the oem case? I believe i pmed some of u. i need an answer tonite, so i can order the case tonite or tomorow morning
ok... wat don't i get? :wacko: :huh: [/b][/quote]Quote:
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@22 January 2004 - 20:44
the prescott will have a 3.4 stock cpu. so u start out at 3.4
No, abu, you don't get it, do you: The point is, Prescott clocked at 3.4 GHz and 1 MB L2 cache may not perform as well as a Northwood Pentium 4 also clocked at 3.4 GHz with 512 Kb L2 cache.
Don't take it so personally, my friend. I just wanted to make sure that you understood what I meant. Did you get a chance to read the article? :)
Don't take it so personally, my friend. I just wanted to make sure that you understood what I meant. Did you get a chance to read the article? :) [/b][/quote]Quote:
Originally posted by adamp2p+23 January 2004 - 03:01--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (adamp2p @ 23 January 2004 - 03:01)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>Quote:
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@22 January 2004 - 20:44
the prescott will have a 3.4 stock cpu. so u start out at 3.4
No, abu, you don't get it, do you: The point is, Prescott clocked at 3.4 GHz and 1 MB L2 cache may not perform as well as a Northwood Pentium 4 also clocked at 3.4 GHz with 512 Kb L2 cache.
ok... wat don't i get? :wacko: :huh:
Good point, i didn't get to read the article. but i read another one also talking bout the prescott cpu, and it said they're shipping out 3.4ghz cpus. i completely understand that they might not perform as well as a 3.4 with 512 L2 cache, but i was just saying that they'll have 3.4 ghz cpus.
please don't take me as an idiot. i may be dumb sometimes, but not all the time
now, ANSWER MY QUESTION BOUT THE FUKING OEM CASE!!!!! do i get the screws and little shit with the oem or not? If not, how the fuck am i supposed to put my mobo in there??!?!?!? :angry: (abu turning green and naked!)
ok... wat don't i get? :wacko: :huh:Quote:
Originally posted by abu_has_the_power+23 January 2004 - 00:00--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (abu_has_the_power @ 23 January 2004 - 00:00)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>Quote:
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@22 January 2004 - 20:44
the prescott will have a 3.4 stock cpu. so u start out at 3.4
No, abu, you don't get it, do you: The point is, Prescott clocked at 3.4 GHz and 1 MB L2 cache may not perform as well as a Northwood Pentium 4 also clocked at 3.4 GHz with 512 Kb L2 cache.
can somebody please fukin answer my question bout the oem case? I believe i pmed some of u. i need an answer tonite, so i can order the case tonite or tomorow morning [/b][/quote]
Abu, you should probably go to a different forum for that question.
This forum definately has its characters, and I have some good friends around here, :) but if I were you I would post your question at a more enthusiast site, like abxzone.com, or you mentioned once that you frequent overclockers.com.
Why don't you ask there? I am sure you will get a timely, informative response at abxzone.com or why don't you try xbitlabs.com? The folks there are super knoweldgeable and friendly (they know the answers to technical questions)...
Abu, you should probably go to a different forum for that question.Quote:
Originally posted by adamp2p+23 January 2004 - 03:05--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (adamp2p @ 23 January 2004 - 03:05)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>Quote:
Originally posted by abu_has_the_power@23 January 2004 - 00:00
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@22 January 2004 - 20:44
the prescott will have a 3.4 stock cpu. so u start out at 3.4
No, abu, you don't get it, do you: The point is, Prescott clocked at 3.4 GHz and 1 MB L2 cache may not perform as well as a Northwood Pentium 4 also clocked at 3.4 GHz with 512 Kb L2 cache.
ok... wat don't i get? :wacko: :huh:
can somebody please fukin answer my question bout the oem case? I believe i pmed some of u. i need an answer tonite, so i can order the case tonite or tomorow morning
This forum definately has its characters, and I have some good friends around here, :) but if I were you I would post your question at a more enthusiast site, like abxzone.com, or you mentioned once that you frequent overclockers.com.
Why don't you ask there? I am sure you will get a timely, informative response at abxzone.com or why don't you try xbitlabs.com? The folks there are super knoweldgeable and friendly (they know the answers to technical questions)... [/b][/quote]
sory bout the yelling. i was getting a bit "hot". anyways, i figured it out. it comes with lots of screws and the spacers!! sweet!! i'm buying this tomorow morning. it's 1:18 am over here.
that's good enough for me. (it came from 1 of the reviews on newegg)Quote:
It came with plenty of screws and motherboard risers but NO documentation. Everything is clearly marked though so this was not a big deal.
and sory again bout the yelling. i currently go to forums.extremeoverclocking.com for "this type" of question, sometimes. but they tend to be extremely slow to answer, mainly cuz they have so many categories.
Abu, what about the mobo? Are you still going to get that Asus?
And when are you ever going to learn how to spell WHAT?
:lol: :lol: :lol:
wat is easier. lol.Quote:
Originally posted by adamp2p@23 January 2004 - 03:41
Abu, what about the mobo? Are you still going to get that Asus?
And when are you ever going to learn how to spell WHAT?
:lol: :lol: :lol:
i'm getting either the asus p4p800 deluxe or the p4c800-e deluxe. just waiting for the auction to end