Which car should I buy next

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Originally Posted by Robert00000

Its a pretty peugeot 206 and ideal for a girl.

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:rolleyes:
Tin cans?

I've driven trucks, vans and buses better than most men can.

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Originally Posted by Jon L. Obscene

Not acording to my research it does'nt, you might wanna try again :P

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Google image search? You're having a laugh.

Nothing beats prior knowledge but a proper definition is good as a back up if the person doesn't recognise what you're trying to say.

Here:

Machined.

def:

v. ma·chined, ma·chin·ing, ma·chines
v. tr.

To cut, shape, or finish by machine.

Source

Anyone that labels a bolt thread as a machine thread is mistaken because the correct terminology is machined. To suggest otherwise is not only bad grammar but also misleading, which I believe was Cheese's point.

FFS Robert learn to resize.

These things piss me off so much I could kill someone.

Edit: Oops, maybe that was harsh.

I 'd just injure 'em is all.

lol, Sorry Manky thats classic college text book answer, my experience is realworld, not bookworld, the term "Machine thread" is applied to the general terminology for all threads, be it bolt, nut, screw, lightbulb etc etc, yes they are machined, but they are Called (In the trade) Machine Threads, more as a name than a description, I guess an analogy would be calling your vehicle your "Mota" which classifies all model types, vans, cars, trucks etc.

So it comes down to the old thing of "everything from a book" vs "On site practical experience" :)

But I can see how it was missinterpreted, altho I think really, thruth be known Cheese knew what I meant ;)

Jonno :cool:

Heh heh..

You guys are talking about nuts.

http://j-walkblog.com/blog/images2/beavis2.jpg

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Originally Posted by Jon L. Obscene

lol, Sorry Manky thats classic collage text book answer, my experience is realworld, not bookworld, the term "Machine thread" is applied to the general terminology for all threads, be it bolt, nut, srew, lightbulb etc etc, yes they are machined, but they are Called (In the trade) Machine Threads, more as a name than a description, I guess an analogy would be calling your vehicle your "Mota" which classifies all model types, vands, car, trucks etc.

So it comes down to the old thing of "everything from a book" vs "On site practical experience" :)

But I can see how it was missinterpreted, alstho I think really, thruth be known Cheese knew what I meant ;)

Jonno :cool:

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It comes down to being correct or incorrect in the words we use.

I choose to be correct. You can choose to be incorrect if you like.

The generic term is machined thread. People who don't care about using the correct term say machine thread - maybe because it trips off the tongue more easily or maybe they don't think it's important to include the extra d because it will be understood anyway.

However, when written it is important to include it as the written word is subject to more scrutiny than the spoken word.

If you look on the sites of people who actually know what they are talking about, bolt retailers, they will all write machined thread however if you were to go there and speak to them you'd probably get away with verbally using the incorrect machine thread.

We are using the written word rather than the spoken word so I'd say it is better to use the correct 'machined thread' rather than the incorrect and verbally lazy 'machine thread'.

As stated, feel free to be incorrect. I just prefer to write such that others will be able to understand what I mean.

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Originally Posted by manker

It comes down to being correct or incorrect in the words we use.

I choose to be correct. You can choose to be incorrect if you like.

The generic term is machined thread. People who don't care about using the correct term say machine thread - maybe because it trips off the tongue more easily or maybe they don't think it's important to include the extra d because it will be understood anyway.

However, when written it is important to include it as the written word is subject to more scrutiny than the spoken word.

If you look on the sites of people who actually know what they are talking about, bolt retailers, they will all write machined thread however if you were to go there and speak to them you'd probably get away with verbally using the incorrect machine thread.

We are using the written word rather than the spoken word so I'd say it is better to use the correct 'machined thread' rather than the incorrect and verbally lazy 'machine thread'.

As stated, feel free to be incorrect. I just prefer to write such that others will be able to understand what I mean.

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I'm tired and drunk but are we getting into the realms of colloquialisms?

Edit: Probably not, but I love that word. I going to be a colloquialism when I grow up. :01:

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Originally Posted by manker

It comes down to being correct or incorrect in the words we use.

I choose to be correct. You can choose to be incorrect if you like.

The generic term is machined thread. People who don't care about using the correct term say machine thread - maybe because it trips off the tongue more easily or maybe they don't think it's important to include the extra d because it will be understood anyway.

However, when written it is important to include it as the written word is subject to more scrutiny than the spoken word.

If you look on the sites of people who actually know what they are talking about, bolt retailers, they will all write machined thread however if you were to go there and speak to them you'd probably get away with verbally using the incorrect machine thread.

We are using the written word rather than the spoken word so I'd say it is better to use the correct 'machined thread' rather than the incorrect and verbally lazy 'machine thread'.

As stated, feel free to be incorrect. I just prefer to write such that others will be able to understand what I mean.

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Wow. How literally correct of you. I dare you to show up on a building site and say that to the boys who say "machine" as opposed to "machined". That is, if the need to be correct and righteous moves you to such an extent. :lol: Perhaps you'd like to bring your dictionary with you to prove yourself right?

Ok Manker, to try and get you to understand have a look Here!
These screws are used for many things, from gate fixings to engines, they a called Machine Screws because they have a Machine thread as oposed to a cut thread used for wood, plaster, plastic etc

Like I said, real world vs bookworld, you walk on site spout Book terms and you'll get clouted with a shovel :lol:

Jonno :cool:

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Originally Posted by NikkiD

Perhaps you'd like to bring your dictionary with you to prove yourself right?

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:lol: :lol: :lol:

I remember a lad turning up and at lunch he sat there reading a book, the boys nailed it to the floor :lol:

Jonno :cool:

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Originally Posted by NikkiD

Wow. How literally correct of you. I dare you to show up on a building site and say that to the boys who say "machine" as opposed to "machined". That is, if the need to be correct and righteous moves you to such an extent. :lol:

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Since you and Jonno said the same thing, I'll reply to you.

The above is true, I have often said that I would not be so pedantic IRL because a punch in the mouth often offends. Saying machine thread on a building site would be fine by me as it would not cause me, or anyone, to misunderstand, cause I'd be on a building site.

However, the correct term is machined thread - because it is machined. There is no disputing that. Anyone who does is wrong.

Now if in the first place Jonno had said machined thread, it would have been clear (to me) that he was talking about a bolt and not a message board thread about machines. I was merely pointing out a way of clearing up any future misunderstandings before they happen, as is my wont.

Granted, if I'd not been pwned earlier I wouldn't have said anything :D

Now respect my grammar authoritah!

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Originally Posted by Jon L. Obscene

:lol: :lol: :lol:

I remember a lad turning up and at lunch he sat there reading a book, the boys nailed it to the floor :lol:

Jonno :cool:

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Heathens :dry:

Never mind :rolleyes: :)

Jonno :cool:

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Originally Posted by Jon L. Obscene

:lol: :lol: :lol:

I remember a lad turning up and at lunch he sat there reading a book, the boys nailed it to the floor :lol:

Jonno :cool:

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That's almost as funny as what we do to the builders at my University.

I've nailed peoples shirts to scaffold deals :lol:

Had my shoes nailed to the floor tho :( :lol: Bastards :lol:

Jonno :cool:

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Originally Posted by Jon L. Obscene

:lol: :lol: Man you talk some shit :lol:

Nothing to say about my link then? Or anything else I posted? :rolleyes:

And yes, I bow to your supierior bookworm knowledge, no denying you's a clever chap :) but I'm afraid my time learning has been practical and actually doing the things you read about :)

Jonno :cool:

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But the argument stems from the correct word usage in regards to the written form. Who cares what words a bunch of illiterate builders use?

btw: Anecdotal* evidence < Correct grammar

Edit: * Poor choice of word, I meant practical...

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Originally Posted by Jon L. Obscene

:lol: :lol: Man you talk some shit :lol:

Nothing to say about my link then? Or anything else I posted? :rolleyes:

And yes, I bow to your supierior bookworm knowledge, no denying you's a clever chap :) but I'm afraid my time learning has been practical and actually doing the things you read about :)

Jonno :cool:

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Screwfix used the wrong word, I am sure you'll agree it is easily done. I may email them.

Now your other point, about verbally saying machine rather than machined is my point entirely - it's fine in the real world when you're in a shop buying screws but to clarify things when written it is much better to use the correct term - particularly when it could be contextually ambigous, like the word thread on a message board.

As to the rest of it - thanks, but don't be so hard on yourself, there are occasions where practical knowledge is indeed superior to theoretical knowledge. Mind, this isn't one of them :)

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Originally Posted by manker

Screwfix used the wrong word, I am sure you'll agree it is easily done. I may email them.

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:lol: :lol: :lol: LMAO! Tosser :P

Ok fair enough, whatever you guys say :)

But i think you should each get a nail gun, they so cool :01:

I've nailed lots of pipes :01: :lol:

Jonno :cool:

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Originally Posted by Jon L. Obscene

I've nailed lots of pipes :01: :lol:

Jonno :cool:

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:D

Now that's a euphemism.:lol:



G'nite folks. :01:

There's that word again, gonna have to look that up :lol:

Night :01: Sleep tight, mind the bed bugs don't eat all the food in your fridge and drink your vodka while you sleep...... :dry: lil Bastards: :dry:

Jonno :cool:

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Originally Posted by Withcheese

:D

Now that's a euphemism.:lol:



G'nite folks. :01:

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:lol: :lol:

Lata, Cheese :D

You think Sara's gonna be really pissed off when she see's we hijacked her thread with a really stupid argument? :ermm:

:lol:

Jonno :cool:

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Originally Posted by Jon L. Obscene

You think Sara's gonna be really pissed off when she see's we hijacked her thread with a really stupid argument? :ermm:

:lol:

Jonno :cool:

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It truly is the most stupid argument I've ever had :lol:

I duno, I think it was Sara who stuck up for me when IKE (jokingly) threatened to ban me because she liked reading my pointless grammaticasting. She might have enjoyed the hijackage.

I may be looking at that recollection through rose tinted spectacles, I expect she'll put me in my place tomorrow :ermm:

I have to agree, I hav'nt had a stupid argument like that for years :lol:

Here's to pointless arguments to while away the hours :beerchug:

I also realise you will pick up on While because I think it's wrong :frusty:

Jonno :cool:

I think it's right, tho' I haven't checked.

Could you check for me please, I wont sleep unless I know it's right :unsure:

Jonno :cool:

Trust me, I'm usually right about these things.


/crosses fingers.

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I take it by the edit you were right? :01:

Good, 3 house points for you :01:

Todays homework: Read the new thrilling Novel "Pointless arguments" by MJ Publishing :lol:

Jonno :cool:

I proof read that book for abuse of the possessive apostrophe :D

Btw, I've emailed Screwfix. :dry:

http://img28.exs.cx/img28/7350/SNAG-0342.jpg

LMFAO!!! :lol: :lol:

You tosser!!! :lol: :lol:

Jonno :cool:

Ok boys....so glad you enjoyed your semantic posturing!

I have decided that I will not be getting a 106 cos it looks like a barbie car. Cheers rob.

@ cheese, I am disturbed that someone who is attempting to gain a degree in English Literature has difficulty spelling the word 'grammar' (ooooh I am getting pedantic in my old age)

@ manker, I am surprised that you didn't spot it and correct him, are we getting a little slack?

@ Jonno, I rarely get pissed off about a lounge thread hijack and particularly when its as entertaining as this one has been. Remember, I am the moderate moderator!

Now...please peruse my reply and check for grammatical errors and spelling mistakes because I can't be arsed.

Thankyou

Looks fine to me ;)

Thanks.....I am considering an edit.....just to see if anyone finds it.... :lol: :lol:

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Originally Posted by Sara

@ cheese, I am disturbed that someone who is attempting to gain a degree in English Literature has difficulty spelling the word 'grammar' (ooooh I am getting pedantic in my old age)

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You should be impressed really. I was quite bladdered last night after my pub excursion so if you only found one error then I'm quite happy. ;)

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Originally Posted by Sara

Ok boys....so glad you enjoyed your semantic posturing!

I have decided that I will not be getting a 106 cos it looks like a barbie car. Cheers rob.

@ cheese, I am disturbed that someone who is attempting to gain a degree in English Literature has difficulty spelling the word 'grammar' (ooooh I am getting pedantic in my old age)

@ manker, I am surprised that you didn't spot it and correct him, are we getting a little slack?

@ Jonno, I rarely get pissed off about a lounge thread hijack and particularly when its as entertaining as this one has been. Remember, I am the moderate moderator!

Now...please peruse my reply and check for grammatical errors and spelling mistakes because I can't be arsed.

Thankyou

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The main grammatical error I saw was not capitalizing Cheese.

I actually prefer 'manker' not to be capitalized but cheese is also a dairy product and given that this isn't the spoken word is it better to be absolutely correct - plus Cheese has a big ego and cries when people don't do that.

Thank you is two words and if we're going to be really pedantic Rob posted a 206, not a 106.

:lol: I'm going to have to stop doing this :lol:

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Originally Posted by manker

Thank you is two words

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:ohmy: Really? I did'nt know that :ph34r:

Jonno :cool:

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Originally Posted by manker

The main grammatical error I saw was not capitalizing Cheese.

I actually prefer 'manker' not to be capitalized but cheese is also a dairy product and given that this isn't the spoken word is it better to be absolutely correct - plus Cheese has a big ego and cries when people don't do that.

Thank you is two words and if we're going to be really pedantic Rob posted a 206, not a 106.

:lol: I'm going to have to stop doing this :lol:

:blushing:

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Thank you manker....I knew that you would be able to help me, one tries but one is not always successful....

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