By all accounts Iraq was doing exactly what it had been asked to do...Quote:
Originally Posted by Jon L. Obscene
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By all accounts Iraq was doing exactly what it had been asked to do...Quote:
Originally Posted by Jon L. Obscene
I don't speak for everyone, only myself.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jon L. Obscene
I wish with my whole heart that we didn't invade Iraq last year.
Yup I think so. Definitely would have been best if they had done something about the people who openly have them and flaunt them (North Korea for example)Quote:
Originally Posted by Jon L. Obscene
Ok thankyou :)
I'm outta here :)
Jonno :cool:
Yes it is, I'm wrong aparently, my views are wrong.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr JP Fugley
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Originally Posted by Jon L. Obscene
Don't spit your dummy out Jonno.
You asked for others people's views on that matter and got them, jsut cos they don't agree with yours you don't need to get upset
Yes, it didn't quite come out how I'd imagined. A delightful deviation from the norm tho'Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr JP Fugley
@ Jonno - that's the spirit :D
I'm not spitting anything Dan
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I'm afraid that makes you wrong.
What would you say Dan?
That I believe you're wrong.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jon L. Obscene
What. I'm not allowed an opinion.
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Originally Posted by Jon L. Obscene
It shouldn't matter to you what other people think though, your views and opinions are exactly that, yours
Don't twist it Manker, sorry mate you think you're right and you tell me I'm wrong, where's my right to an opinion?, and we all know your opinion of me.
@ Dan .... You did'nt answer the question?
I'm not denying your right to an opinion.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jon L. Obscene
I'm just informing you that you're wrong.
The above is my opinion.
Thats a play on words, I'm sorry I can't argue, I know what I mean but can't put it into words you would understand.
I guess in effect you by saying I'm wrong am taking away my right to an opinion.
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Originally Posted by Jon L. Obscene
I would have told him to stfu it was my opinon. He may well want to tell me I am wrong, but that is the whole reason behind debating, listening to views and other arguements for and against the subject matter :huh:
I've tried that before and you guys generally say I've spat my dummy.
He is a bit worried JP. According to the news tonight the fighting in Iraq was in tense. But we all knew that about Arabs.:wacko:Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr JP Fugley
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Originally Posted by Jon L. Obscene
Its because at the end of (nearly) every debate thread you start you end up getting the hump cos not everyone agrees with you
Just chill its not personal :)
Why does everyone keep on about America when there are other countries too?
they do things wrong, why does no one complain about them?
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Originally Posted by Jon L. Obscene
He's not denying your right to an opinion he is just expressing his.
Thats like Manker saying to me Man Utd are the nuts and me saying bollocks they are a load of crap. Doesn't mean I am not letting him have his opinion on Man U just that I have a differing view
That's because you generally do.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jon L. Obscene
You start out making your points, and arguing your points. When people don't agree with you, you become sarcastic and play the martyr. "You don't agree with me, I'm gonna sulk and try and make you feel sorry for me."
I'm sorry if that's harsh, but if you can't debate without taking things personally, perhaps you should not debate.
You're entitled to your opinion, and I am entitled to disagree with your opinion. If you can't see that, then you shouldn't give your opinion.
How in a holy hail of shrapnel was that a play on words.
Thank you, you just completely humiliated me.Quote:
Originally Posted by NikkiD
http://www.sighost.us/members/danb/pwned.gif
Jonno, unfortuantely when other people tell you that like Cheese or Manker you get offended, perhaps now someone else has you will take notice of it :unsure:
Wow, quite a read...
@Jonno There are way more influential people that do not visit these forums that agree with your views then it is cared to think...The ratio is just lopsided here... :)
PS> isn't now the time for some such people to develop imaginations of their own and create their own sigs instead of stealing others?*cough*scroff*cough*dan*
Sorry Manny, mine was just a little play on your abortion one. I guess now you have changed it I will change mine ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by spinningfreemanny
No, Jon, you did that yourself when you decided to take people opinions personally, just because they didn't agree with yours. I simply pointed that out.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jon L. Obscene
Manny's wasn't going to win any awards for originality either.Quote:
Originally Posted by DanB
Whereas mine you are all free to copy.;)
I was told I was wrong, how's that not personal?Quote:
Originally Posted by NikkiD
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Originally Posted by Jon L. Obscene
Thats what happens when you debate, people with other opinions will tell you are wrong.
Just like my little example of me and manker discussing Man U
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Originally Posted by Mr JP Fugley
I did make it up but after yestersday I don't know if you're serious - no probs with you using it, of course :unsure:
In my opinion, you are incorrect in your views.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jon L. Obscene
However, this may be because you have a few misconseptions, and should possibly look again at the whole subject. If i believed some of the stuff you appear to (ie backround stuff) my opinions may have been the same as yours in the actual Iraq/Al Queda thing as an example...
However you are using arguments that are now accepted as incorrect even by the Governments that took us to war in the 1st place...
I don't tell people what to think, you know this was going fine until people start up about how I'm wrong and that I hav'nt been reading and how my views are rubbish.Quote:
Originally Posted by DanB
Read back over the thread, who was getting personal? Was'nt me, I took offence to being told I'm not allowed a view.
So then everyone who disagrees with you is personally attacking you?
I'm sorry, I should reword all my answers then, I thought I was debating by giving my views. I should throw in a few "you assholes" and "your opinion is for shit" comments just so that I'm aware that I'm personally attacking you.
manker said you were wrong, which in his opinion, you are. If he wanted to personally attack you, he would have said "you're wrong, you f*cking moron." Or something to that effect, I can't presume to know which words manker would have used if he were going to personally attack you.
EDIT: Who the hell told you anywhere in this thread that you weren't entitled to a view?
Not me. I'm never wrong and I always disregard everyone else's opinions.Quote:
Originally Posted by DanB
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Originally Posted by Jon L. Obscene
FFS you didn't get told you weren't allowed one, you just got told that they were wrong compared to other people's views.
No where in this thread did anyone say Jonno stfu, you are not allowed an opinon.
It might have helped as RF said if you were using facts that weren't now accepted as rubbish by the Govt's that used them
And Man U aren't football players, they're actors...
Thats not an opinion, its fact.. :rolleyes:
Enough
I think you've all had enough fun
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Originally Posted by Jon L. Obscene
:frusty:
We aren't having fun at your expense, well I am not anyway, just trying to help so that next time you won't be so sensitive and stuff
Ok dan let me tell you something, this was never about America, this was a test, personal test to see if I could do this debate without it ending like this.
It would seem I have a problem, I thought I could beat it today.
I could'nt.
I apologise to you all
Okay, I'm sorry to hear that but I'd like to think that out of the constructive crticism that has come your way maybe you could take it on board and then try again :01: