Well, I imagine we'll get all these rare instances out of the way today so that we may be at each others throats for the remainder of the year.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr JP Fugley
An "economy of agreement", if you will :lol:
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Well, I imagine we'll get all these rare instances out of the way today so that we may be at each others throats for the remainder of the year.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr JP Fugley
An "economy of agreement", if you will :lol:
Oh my, I'm so sorry to hear your bad news BM.
Wishing you and your friends my thoughts though I know there are no words that will help ease the pain.
I would retort to scribblec, but whats the point?
Really, I think everyone has had their say in this thread, and it should be closed before another half time student trying to get his jollies makes another pathetic comment like that. :sickened:
At the end of the day, I like most of you and would be unhappy if you all disapeared.
Except SnnY.....I hate SnnY. :P :shifty:
half time student =l
Well, I guess it is official, you are a complete prick. Thanks for never posting again.Quote:
Originally Posted by scribblec
@Busy, I'm really sorry to hear about that, it must have come as quite a shock.
@Lilmiss, I'm leaving it open because there may be others who wish to post more positive comments, but that little tosser won't be posting here any time soon.
I'm so sorry for your loss Busyman. Words do not make sense at a time like this, but know you are in all of our thoughts.
Thanks lynxQuote:
Originally Posted by lynx
@hobbes-
I just thought about something. He was complaining of ankle pain from an injury last week. He said, at that time, he had it from 2 weeks ago which would have made this the 4th week of him playing and sometimes limping.
That's way too long for an ankle injury and to keep playing on it.
My thoughts, and you tell me since know some things about medicine and such:
Due to his ankle injury which probably didn't heal properly, he had a had deep vein thrombosis which in turn caused a pulmonary embolism that went to his brain. He may very well had emboli since the injury was so old.
I wasn't thinking a clot went to his heart because as I said he "switched off" which indicate brain. I would think a heart attack would cause a clinch or yell and but did nothing.
The other thought was a brain aneurysm.
In either case I hope, and this sounds bad, that it was something that I had no control over (or anyone for that matter). I never gave CPR nor did the gym have a defib.
It sounds kinda weird coming from me but I actually appreciate the sentiments from everyone. ;) God bless.
Thanks lynx.
From what little I know, it seems to me that you couldn't have done anything.Quote:
Originally Posted by Busyman
It could have been an aneurism, especially so since you were playing basketball. These things hit when you exert yourself.
And it could have been a blood clot as well, if it's in the worst possible place I think it could do what you describe.
In either of these scenarios I guess he might have survived if conditions had been different, if the hospital had been closer or if he hadn't tried so hard or if he hadn't had that blood clot, but that has nothing to do with you. As far as I can tell you did what you could, and shouldn't feel guilty about it in any way.
As someone said, he did get to go while surrounded by friends, and he went fast. And that's a lot better than dying slowly, alone in a hospital, from complications caused by a stroke, which could have happened if it was a blood clot.
In my part of the world, ordinary things like this is what kills people, rather than gunshots or anything else that might be done to themselves, by someone else or themselves (if they don't die of old age). I've seen people die oh so slowly of cancer, been sitting next to them while they gave up their last breath after struggling just to be able to breathe for many hours.
Be glad your friend wasn't tortured like that. If I had to go early, I might well pick the road he went.
@lilmiss: :no: :(
@hobbes: thanks for the clarification.
Anuerysm is a possibility, but it would have to have been a massive rupture. It usually starts as a terrible headache and gets worse from there.Quote:
Originally Posted by Busyman
Blot clot is possible. It would take a massive clot to fill the pulmonary arteries which would prevent proper circulation. Imagine running down the court and suddenly no blood is getting to your brain, it would cause someone to drop like a stone.
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A venous blood clot can only physically get to the brain if the person has a hole in the heart (atrial septal defect).
We will just have to wait and see.
hobbes..
I just came from playing ball at a different court.
One of fellas told it was a heart attack. You were right.
He said he had some condition..I'll find out more st the wake on Friday.
If it was a heart attack, there might have been something I could have done.
No cpr, no defib....and that's just fucked up. He was 23 btw. :no:
We told some of the guys tonight (they played with him once at this different gym) and many of them (older fellas) wanted to stop playing after two games. They put in substitutions. Weird.