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all you need is your EARS to tell you about linkin park. facts would be useless after that point.
Not only that, but from a thread near a year old. :PQuote:
Originally Posted by Celerystalksme
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I just love this post. He starts off on his first post about "people entitled to their opinions"...mmmm, hypocrite anyone?Quote:
Originally Posted by Excuses
Anyone with a brain knows that Joey Jordison...ok you know what I'm not even gonna finish this sentence (about Joey Jordison), it'd be a waste of my time.
Jim Roots+Mick Thomson vs. the guitarist (and the Mike Shinoda [who also has guitar duties on some songs I believe])....ya, no chance.
Taking out a fly with a nuke more like it.
If you honestly can't differentiate between riffs in their songs, get your ears checked. LP doesn't even use simple techniques like Hammerons and Pulloffs, and I bet they probably never even heard of Pinch Harmonics before. If you asked them what palm muting was they'd probably think of it as a dead note (1 string).
LP: I've become so numb, that I'm crawling in my skin! Faint! ahhhh With you I hate you ahhhh....ya ok this whole routine is getting boring...
Slipknot: Progression anyone? Ya first album was fucking awesome full out metal (if you actually think they yell in all their songs, then your preconceived notions outweigh your actual intellect) with some of the best riffs, drumming and lyrics. Second album not so much, but 3rd album without a doubt was leaps and bounds better not to mention PROGRESSION was involved where they didn't stick to one formula. They experimented because they weren't controlled by greedy managers and execs.
But in saying all that I still like some of LP's songs, and I try to be as less hypocritical as possible, and unlike some people I don't base my decisions on pre-conceived notions. When they come out with a 3rd actual album I'll listen to it just like I do any other. Here's hoping that it won't be a continuation of Hybrid Theory (which Meteora totally was), and if you try to point out that this is indeed a preconceived notion in the works, no it isn't.
And in face of all this, Slipknot and LP suck balls compared to other greater bands in the same genre or the true genre of Metal, while you have to keep in mind that Slipknot is infinitely better than LP at any given time. Yes, good old math creeping back in there somewhere.
edit: To actually address the post it self, yes, they are coming out with a 3rd album, they're (I think) almost done recording with the legendary Rick Rubin, so we shall see if they truly did progress (why else would Rick Rubin take the job?). Expect it to be out by June/July 06.
edit edit: Excuses, you obvioulsy don't know what lyrical content means, when I saw that post with the slipknot reference to ahh ill knock ur face off, i just had to laugh a bit, I'm sorry it was just a bit awkward. Comparing LP's lyrics to Slipknot's is ummm how do I put this, not possible? Like comparing 5 to infinity maybe? Considering infinity is a concept and 5 isnt ....
Don't be hating on LP yo. :no2:
I'm not, I'm just saying that they are (in my opinion and many others) very very stale and uncreative, this however doesnt make them fake as some people put them out to be. The problem with LP is that they don't have any comprehension of the concept of progression, either that or they're sticking to that one formula and planning to use it time and again to get rich off of it, which sadly (for them) won't work.Quote:
Originally Posted by Linkin Park
I just get a bit pissed off when people like Excuses start to bash other bands that are infinitely better than LP without any knowledge of the band in question and all their facts based on pre-conceived notions. If anything, that's being fake (and somewhat reminds me of Republicans too, sorry just had to say it :P jp jp)
Let me clearify myself, a song that doesn't consist of complete screaming. Build up and release in a song is great. When the song starts out with screaming, its ignorant & its for emo kids. Whos dad abused them as a child, and they have a release by listening to this thats all good with me whatever floats your boat. Noone is asking you to like linkin park, just don't make dumbass assumptions. I've listened to 9.0 Live, all of the songs, which consists of a mixture of all their "hits" right? A couple where OK, I mean the ones that actually had singing some sort of vocal talent. The thread isn't titled "Lets all post and bash linkin park". Also to you mr "Azad" everyone is entitled to their own opinions, hence the reason I voiced mine.
and I'm done, thank you please drive through.
Damn Canadians.
Your really coming here with your creativity argument? HAH, are you kidding me slipknot fan LMFAO. I don't even have to argue with this, just read my last post about them. Preconcieved, nope I've listened to their whole 9.0 Live album because my neice's boyfriend is in love when them.. 2-3 songs consisted of actual singing the rest... ignorant screaming. However I will admit, the songs that they actually composed well, and sang in sounded great.
no, no, no, sir. don't confuse metal with emo-related stuff.Quote:
Originally Posted by Excuses
Wow...this thread is still going?
Anger = an emotion, metal = filled with anger. Shall I spell it out in simpler terms? Its a different type of emo, then you are familar with, its something you guys like to hide behind and think you are the shit, and it makes me laugh.
Your post is so ignorant and delirious that to post a reply back would be stupid, but you know what? I will, because if I don't I'll just end up like you, saying BULLSHIT and not supporting any of it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Excuses
Ah yes, the melovalent eyes of Excuses who sees all for what they/it truly is/are, and we, the blind, follow like sheep...ya ok, I don't think so.
Metal doesnt involve all anger and emo-related bullshit, if you actually bothered to listen to some Slipknot songs (and while we're at it, SLIPKNOT IS NOT FUCKING METAL) you'd realize that your ass truly belongs on your face, and that your rectum is your mouth.
Volume 3 (4th Slipknot album including MFKR) is a prime example of that, but of course you don't care, you're just an ignorant fuck that thinks he's better than everyone else and catergorizes genre's to his willing.
So let me guess, you don't like Metallica, or Iron Maiden, or Slayer, or or any of the classics? Of course of course I see why you don't like them because they're full of hatred and anger....ya ok refer to suck my cawk.
Seriously dude, if you want some civility or seriousness in your post, back up your facts, you're just making yourself look like an idiot. All this to defend a band that is hardly considered talented by anyone that isn't experiencing hormone fluctuations.
Post back when you're 18 or something buds.
And if this post is just a catalyst for you to post more stupid nonsense, please don't, save yourself the time and energy, go outside and play some sports or something.
LP is a crappy band (IMO) and hopefully Rick Rubin will kick some sense into them, furthermore Metal is not emo. I would love to see you backup your claims, and for the One Millionth Time, Slipknot is not Metal, it's just kickass music to listen to to get you pumped (or not, which is why I refer to Volume 3, but why post anything about that, you don't care do you? You're not ever going to listen to a masterpiece like that).
But, alas, in the end I know people like you are never going to change their one-track mind about something, for you do not allow any opposing ideas to exist in your comfortable little universe....even if those ideas are most likely right.
edit: Think we are the shit huh? I wanna be as non-mainstream as possible (and yes that makes me a hypocrite sue me, there are some good mainstream music out there I will agree to that). I hardly want to be the "shit" both literally and figuritavely, I'm me, an individual, a unique person, I don't wanna be the guy that stands next to me fuck that.
edit-edit: Oh and if you do bother to read this post, please read it all the way through not skim. Just because I like Slipknot doesn't make me an emo...I fucking hate emos (ya I guess you didnt read my sig). One last thing, where exactly did I "bash" LP? I just said they were untalented that's all, and I also said that they had some pretty good songs, and I did say IMO (in my opinion). Please good sir, backup what you have to say before posting. And listening to 9.0 hardly makes you the master, 9.0 = live = shitty = quality = crappy voice, go download Volume 3 before you say something else and listen to tracks like "Circle", "Prelude 3.0" and "Vermilion Pt. 2".
you said screaming music is for emo kids. piss on emo kids first off, they dont come close to having the rights to screaming music.Quote:
Originally Posted by Excuses
all music is emotional, so isn't all type of music for emo kids?
spell it however you want to.
if you dont like loud/angry music, thats fine, but why hate on it in general?
Seems like alot of great bands break up for some stupid reason all the time.
Name a few, the only one that really comes to mind is Black Sabbath :stars:damn it I gotta get our more.Quote:
Originally Posted by LegendaryU2K
My point, people also like to catagorize LP with "emo kids" I was waiting for someone to say that, worked out perfectly. Also, why do people have to come into a thread that has nothing to do with Linkin Park being good or bad and have people bash it? Azad, I love how you come out with these big elaborate posts. I will give you this, you back up most of your statements slipknot is a hybrid genre just as linkin park, more "hardcore" but none the less a hybrid. I never said linkin park never got old they do, they have yet to make any progress towards maturing as a band. Now, its basically based on each other's tastes in music. I for one don't like every song LP has made, some of them are just dumb, others are great. Although, I have yet to see a band produce a cd that has consistant good composition. I listen to Slayer, Dream Theater, the songs I can tolerate. I was being a little condescending generalizing the metal genre or what have you I admit that, I got pissed off because people were making comments about a band that wasn't true. I'm not a fanboy, but I can't stand seeing people talk who don't have a clue about what they are talking about. Its arguing opinions, those types of arguements can go on forever. I will give those songs a listen, I'm an open minded person dude, so don't even pull that shit on me. You don't know me.Quote:
Originally Posted by lee551
Oh, and I'm 20 so don't try the "15 year old" arguement.
http://www.instantkarma.com/images/yokomenu2.jpgQuote:
Originally Posted by cpt_azad
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you've got me all confused with the emo association in all of this, so i'll just drop that since we all hate emo kids the same, i'm sure.Quote:
Originally Posted by Excuses
i'm glad you admitted you came down on metal wrongfully. don't bash screaming music just because you can't handle it.
and dabbling in a little teenie anger music (linkin park) doesn't really set you up for being able to discuss the metal genre with any credibility. i can understand your slight love affection with them (they're catchy as hell), and i can understand how you want to defend them against all the haters in here, but linkin park is one of those bands that's always going to be getting shit on (nickelback?).
edit: IMO all the bests END/DIE young. i'm a firm believer that bands can only go on for so long before they lose 'it.' it's really sad when they try to ignore that they're washed up and trudge on. case in point: metallica should have gotten in a fist fight and broken up a long time ago (like 4 albums back).
how 'the shit' would metallica be if they left us with only the legacy of their first albums? they'd be declared as the greatest band ever made!! (honestly, the first couple of metallica albums own anything)
but what happened? they hired a fucking therapist and worked shit out. can anyone find a soul that likes new metallica stuff? i can't.
I node it.:dry:
Elaborate? Nope, that's just the way I am, so call it whatever you want. Secondly, just because you're "mad" about people who bash LP (once again refer to my old posts, I didn't bash em, I just said they're stale and in "limbo" if you will [non-progressive]) doesn't give you the right to generalize the Metal genre.Quote:
Originally Posted by Excuses
Also, Slipknot and LP are in the same category (Nu-metal), and ya as you said SK is just a bit more heavier, and has a much better lyrical content than "all" LP songs, which doesn't mean LP has some great hits out there.
And you are right on the fighting about opinions, no one wins those (unless you kill the other person...hmm...).
Glad to hear you're an open minded person, I'm just saying listen to what other bands (or for that matter people) have to offer before generalizing (which is also not that great in it self either).
Now lets all just drop this BS and get on with it, here's hoping LP releases a better album than Hybrid Theory+Meteora, better as in more progressed with a new formula (something Rick R. is famous for :) ). Either way I'll give it a listen.
Amen. I lied by the way, there is just one generalization I will make, all Emo's are fags. End of story.Quote:
Originally Posted by lee551
OH MY GOD, NO!! It's YOKO!!Quote:
Originally Posted by MagicNakor
Agreed. That was a sad seperation. Most people in my generation don't give the Beatles the proper respect they deserve.
If you were a musician yourself you would understand that all music is emotional. Music in itself is is mechanical, notes and tones, but to manipulate those notes and tones into a song that is in time, takes more than just mechanics, you have to feel the pace, feel the movement, and feel the timing. So I suppose I've now been branded Emo. :dry:Quote:
Originally Posted by Excuses
Lawl, overlooked that one.Quote:
Originally Posted by Damnatory
As for the whole emotion thing, ya word for word right Damnatory. If music isnt' supposed to be emotional then why the hell do I still listen to it? Above all, if music isn't supposed to make you feel, and move you then life isn't worth living I'm sorry. To me music is one of the few things that gets me through life, and I depend on it from a daily basis. If that makes me Emo by your standards so be it (I will hate emos till the day I die, "their" music really pisses me off and their whole lifestyle ahh, just wanna kill em all).
i dunno, i kinda think some emo girls are hawt. :wub:Quote:
Originally Posted by cpt_azad
we could dive into a whole legit discussion on the topic of 'emo' in itself. i think there's a line between poser emo and a legit state of emo. :lol:
You bastard, you think just like me lolQuote:
Originally Posted by lee551
Ya, some emo chicks (ok obviously not the legit ones) are cute, not hot, just damn cute. Other than that they should either change their ways or die lol.
But ya, discussion or not, I think we can all agree that life without emos, both legit and poser, would be a whole lot better...except the chicks, they can still be emo for all i care, poser ones anyway.
I'm sure the whole Emo persona will be burned away within the next few years...Quote:
Originally Posted by cpt_azad
Personally, I believe the "metrosexual" life style Emos live, was an act of desperation to help ease the onslaught of homos of our generation into the mainstream morale.