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Originally Posted by tralalala
First off, a 17 year old Palestinian is like a 25 yr old Israeli.... They attack us (there have been several bombers no older than 18).
Second: Do you really want me to give you the list of Israeli children killed by Militants and/or suiciders..? :(
No-one is denying that innocent children are being killed, except you.
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Originally Posted by Tralala
this only happened once
This happens all the time, on BOTH sides.
Re: I would like to argue something pretty important to me.
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Originally Posted by RioDeLeo
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Originally Posted by bigboab
I know this is only a discussion. But Rafi has had to experience this situation most of his life. We can only imagine the situation. He has not been 'brainwashed', his country has had to deal with a very tricky situation. How would we deal with the same situation?
I am not trying to be funny when I say if I was young and in the Israeli forces I would tend to be like Lt Howard Hunter out of 'Hill Street Blues'. Hit them with everything you are armed with. After negotiations have failed of course.
Taking into acount that the vast majority of the worlds politicians say that they will not negotiate with terrorist. How the hell are we going to solve not only this crisis but the 'islamic' crisis too.
They are saying they are doing for Islam not me. That last part is probably in the wrong thread. Bedtime.:(
What if you were Palestinian?
Then I would probably feel the same way that a young Palestinian does.
I dont know if it has slipped anyones notice or not.
Israelis kill and maim innocent children in their 'retalitary' attacks on Palestinians. I am sure a lot of it is not intentional.
Palestinian bombers are 'deliberately' attacking civilian targets. There is a difference there.
There is no way I would condone either. Sadly the UDA, IRA and all the other various terrroists groups targetted civilians for years.
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Originally Posted by bigboab
Israelis kill and maim innocent children in their 'retalitary' attacks on Palestinians. I am sure a lot of it is not intentional.
Palestinian bombers are 'deliberately' attacking civilian targets. There is a difference there.
No, there isn't. Israeli forces carry out retaliatory attacks knowing that innocent civilians, men, women and children, will or could be killed, by tank, rocket and air attacks, those deliberate actions terrorise civilian populations.
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Originally Posted by RioDeLeo
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Originally Posted by bigboab
Israelis kill and maim innocent children in their 'retalitary' attacks on Palestinians. I am sure a lot of it is not intentional.
Palestinian bombers are 'deliberately' attacking civilian targets. There is a difference there.
No, there isn't. Israeli forces carry out retaliatory attacks knowing that innocent civilians, men, women and children, will or could be killed, by tank, rocket and air attacks, those deliberate actions
terrorise civilian populations.
There is a bloody difference. One is retaliation and one is deliberate. I thought I already stated that.
The terrorists are using the civilians as a shield. If they want a war and want to call themselves an army. Then dress as an army and fight like an army. But none of them will do that. They are mostly lily livered cowrds who use brainwashed kids to do their killing for them. Usually the kids getting killed in the process.:angry:
Re: I would like to argue something pretty important to me.
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Originally Posted by bigboab
There is a bloody difference. One is retaliation and one is deliberate. I thought I already stated that.
They are both deliberate, the Israeli military murders civilians in an attempt to terrorise them into submission. They know they are killing innocent civilians, and don't care, blowing a car up in the middle of a crowded street with rockets is a reckless and deliberate killing of innocent people, designed to terrorise them as much as to kill their targets. Would you have approved of the British Army using the same methods against the Northern Irish?
The terrorists are using the civilians as a shield. If they want a war and want to call themselves an army. Then dress as an army and fight like an army.
Against tanks, helicopter gunships, aircraft, and all the other eqiupment of war? They use what they have, just as the Zionist gangs did against the British in the late 40's.
But none of them will do that. They are mostly lily livered cowrds who use brainwashed kids to do their killing for them. Usually the kids getting killed in the process.:angry:
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Originally Posted by Edward Said in "The Progressive", March 1998
"The first challenge, then, is to extract acknowledgement from Israel for what it did to us...But then, I believe, we must also hold out the possibility of some form of coexistence in which a new and better life, free of ethnocentrism and religious intolerance, could be available...If we present our claims about the past as ushering in a form of mutuality and coexistence in the future, a long-term positive echo on the Israeli and Western side will reverberate."
Re: I would like to argue something pretty important to me.
RioDeLeo = either leftism or 1234.
I win!!!
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Originally Posted by Busyman
RioDeLeo = either leftism or 1234.
I win!!!
Your powers of perception are truly amazing, and l bow to you. :cool:
However, this time you are wrong. :cry:
l win!!!
Re: I would like to argue something pretty important to me.
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Originally Posted by RioDeLeo
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Originally Posted by Busyman
RioDeLeo = either leftism or 1234.
I win!!!
Your powers of perception are truly amazing, and l bow to you. :cool:
However, this time you are wrong. :cry:
l win!!!
Well you sound like wunadem assholes. :lol: :lol:
...and either way you ain't a newcummer but I like that someone is on the Palestinian side or this thread would be as dry as a frigid twat.
(besides all-o-dat I'm right lefty)
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I don't think so, lefty was such a coward he always used proxies.
That's not something we can accuse billy of doing.
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Originally Posted by lynx
I don't think so, lefty was such a coward he always used proxies.
That's not something we can accuse billy of doing.
Also, Rio either works the night shift or lives in the antipodes. :)
Either way, a little gingering up of the Drawing Room isn't necessarily a bad thing.