G.o.d (((((((((athiest))))))))))

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Originally posted by Billy_Dean@20 September 2003 - 15:09
You'll really have to be more specific JP, I'm not gonna write a book. What exactly did you want to know? Or am I just meant to say something outrageous?


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Say something, don't say something, it's entirely a matter for you.

You said you had some views which may be thought extreme by others. It simply piqued my curiosity. So I wondered if you would elucidate. If you wish not to that's cool.

I can't really be more specific, as I am totally unaware what your extreme views may be. A hint perhaps as to what area(s) they may cover.

This sounds like fishing with a very long pole.
I believe they call it trolling. ;)

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Originally posted by lynx@20 September 2003 - 23:17
This sounds like fishing with a very long pole.
I believe they call it trolling. ;)

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I think you're right!

Let me say again JP, if you wish to hear my opinion on a certain subject, ask me, I'll be happy to oblige.

As for opinions, I have hundreds, thousands maybe, who knows? How many do you have? Whether or not they are controversial, that's subjective, I would need to express them all, you would then have to decide. I don't see that happening.


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Originally posted by Billy_Dean@20 September 2003 - 14:28


My views on lots of things would be considered extreme, were you to know my true feelings.

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This is what I was responding to. You said you had views which could be considered extreme.

As I said several posts ago if you want to discuss them cool, if not then no problem either way.

How is that fishing ?

In fact this is exactly what I said

"Say something, don't say something, it's entirely a matter for you.

You said you had some views which may be thought extreme by others. It simply piqued my curiosity. So I wondered if you would elucidate. If you wish not to that's cool."

How is that fishing ?

I thought you were an adult, given that you have stated you have children of your own, that is a reasonable assumption. If you want to talk and debate even argue, that's fine by me. Particularly if we have views which differ. Debating things which we agree on is really rather boring. If not fair enough it really isn't that important.

It is interesting that a thread on religion should ultimately disintegrate into a slanging match.

Interesting but ultimately not surprising I suppose. :ph34r:

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Originally posted by Biggles@20 September 2003 - 17:13
It is interesting that a thread on religion should ultimately disintegrate into a slanging match.

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I think we generally manage that whatever the topic :-"

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Originally posted by Biggles@20 September 2003 - 17:13
It is interesting that a thread on religion should ultimately disintegrate into a slanging match.

Interesting but ultimately not surprising I suppose. :ph34r:

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This process is inevitable, I think it has to do with our "biorhythm". People will engage in intense back and forth dicussion for a variable yet finite amout of time. If resolution does not occur in this framework, minds will stray and the focus lost. Slanging is one of the options pursued in this break period and the thread will meanander about for a while until someone with a fresh mind joins in to refocus it. Meanwhile, our mods have been tossing the thread from forum to forum to match each post ;).

This process is not dependent on the subject matter, I think you will find evidence of this in every thread. We can only be intense and serious for so long, then we need to lighten it up, take a break.

I find this type of rhythm somewhat similar to what we observe in real life. Have you ever been in a busy restaurant, people talking busily, waiters shuffling about, silverware clanging, then suddenly, without cue, complete silence - everyone stops talking a once. A weird occurance where everyone takes a break simultaneously.



Anyway to push this thread back toward being on track, who is afraid of death? I am, it is the only thing I really fear.

I would like to go back to something JPaul said about death. He claimed to be afraid of death.

I was wondering if he meant:

1. Fear of what happens after death. Judgement or nothingness.
2. Fear of the moment when you realize you are actually dying (seconds to minutes away).
3. Fear of dying- the longer term process of a used body wasting away in some nursing home. Your former vibrant self reduced to a babbling poo-poo pants. You look at these people and say, "I never want that to be me!".

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Originally posted by hobbes@20 September 2003 - 17:33

2. Fear of the moment when you realize you are actually dying (seconds to minutes away).
3. Fear of dying- the longer term process of a used body wasting away in some nursing home. Your former vibrant self reduced to a babbling poo-poo pants. You look at these people and say, "I never want that to be me!".

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For me it's probably because I have watched both things happen. Twice each and very close up.

For me 3/

and, to be honest:

4/ Pain before death.

Death itself, i dont fear.........its what precedes it, that I dont like.

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Originally posted by Rat Faced@20 September 2003 - 10:26


Death itself, i dont fear.........its what precedes it, that I dont like.

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Life?