Re: City of New York; FDNY release oral histories re:911...
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Originally Posted by j2k4
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Originally Posted by JPaul
I'm more of a "decide each issue on it's own merit kind of guy"
It's more difficult.
Nothing at all against difficulty, but, apart from the rather asinine hook liberals try to deploy by their absurd use of the abortion/death penalty tactic,
....well don't proclaim to be pro-life because of the Bible and then later be pro-death.
It's not a hook.
Conservatives are Pro-Life and Pro-Death at the same time. :frusty:
That's ass in 9. :dry:
Re: City of New York; FDNY release oral histories re:911...
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Originally Posted by Busyman
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Originally Posted by j2k4
Nothing at all against difficulty, but, apart from the rather asinine hook liberals try to deploy by their absurd use of the abortion/death penalty tactic,
....well don't proclaim to be pro-life because of the Bible and then later be pro-death.
It's not a hook.
Conservatives are Pro-Life and Pro-Death at the same time. :frusty:
That's ass in 9. :dry:
No, it's not, and no, they aren't.
You have to learn to separate the issues properly, B.
Re: City of New York; FDNY release oral histories re:911...
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Originally Posted by j2k4
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Originally Posted by Busyman
....well don't proclaim to be pro-life because of the Bible and then later be pro-death.
It's not a hook.
Conservatives are Pro-Life and Pro-Death at the same time. :frusty:
That's ass in 9. :dry:
No, it's not, and no, they aren't.
You have to learn to separate the issues properly, B.
Oh no I get the rationale...
A baby is an innocent life that hasn't done anything to warrant premature death.
A person convicted of a heinous crime is (most likely) deserving of death 'cause a judge and/or jury said so.
Uh huh I get it.
Still it doesn't change the fact that the Cons are...
a Pro-Liphe/Def combo. :dry:
Re: City of New York; FDNY release oral histories re:911...
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Originally Posted by Busyman
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Originally Posted by j2k4
No, it's not, and no, they aren't.
You have to learn to separate the issues properly, B.
Oh no I get the rationale...
A baby is an innocent life that hasn't done anything to warrant premature death.
A person convicted of a heinous crime is (most likely) deserving of death 'cause a judge and/or jury said so.
Uh huh I get it.
Still it doesn't change the fact that the Cons are...
a Pro-Liphe/Def combo. :dry:
Is there a manual anywhere that states what you have to believe to be a conservative or liberal? For some odd reason I was under the impression that political views were an individual thing. I was also under the impression not all conservatives were pro life and not all were pro death.
Re: City of New York; FDNY release oral histories re:911...
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Originally Posted by Tikibonbon
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Originally Posted by Busyman
Oh no I get the rationale...
A baby is an innocent life that hasn't done anything to warrant premature death.
A person convicted of a heinous crime is (most likely) deserving of death 'cause a judge and/or jury said so.
Uh huh I get it.
Still it doesn't change the fact that the Cons are...
a Pro-Liphe/Def combo. :dry:
Is there a manual anywhere that states what you have to believe to be a conservative or liberal? For some odd reason I was under the impression that political views were an individual thing. I was also under the impression not all conservatives were pro life and not all were pro death.
I would say that is true enough; Conservatives (according to the manual) are anti-abortion, however may fall on either side of the line when considering the death-penalty/life-imprisonment question-I see circumstantial reasons for having both, but would guess that the issue would be less pressing if it developed that life in prison meant life in prison.
A Conservative has a law-and-order orientation in any case, and does not favor namby-pamby sentencing procedures and rampant plea-bargaining.
Busyman:
You are arguing half of the issue; you make the mistake of assigning a moral equivalence to each action when such doesn't apply.
A side-light of the "death" issue is euthanasia, which most Conservatives do not abide easily.
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Gawd i hate this Liberal/Conservative crap...
Just about everyone will be "Liberal" on some issues and "Conservative" on others.
Apart from the ideological idiots of course :snooty:
Re: City of New York; FDNY release oral histories re:911...
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Originally Posted by Rat Faced
Gawd i hate this Liberal/Conservative crap...
Just about everyone will be "Liberal" on some issues and "Conservative" on others.
Apart from the ideological idiots of course :snooty:
True...I am none of the above.
Re: City of New York; FDNY release oral histories re:911...
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Originally Posted by Tikibonbon
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Originally Posted by Busyman
Oh no I get the rationale...
A baby is an innocent life that hasn't done anything to warrant premature death.
A person convicted of a heinous crime is (most likely) deserving of death 'cause a judge and/or jury said so.
Uh huh I get it.
Still it doesn't change the fact that the Cons are...
a Pro-Liphe/Def combo. :dry:
Is there a manual anywhere that states what you have to believe to be a conservative or liberal? For some odd reason I was under the impression that political views were an individual thing. I was also under the impression not all conservatives were pro life and not all were pro death.
No shit.
Re: City of New York; FDNY release oral histories re:911...
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Originally Posted by Rat Faced
Gawd i hate this Liberal/Conservative crap...
Just about everyone will be "Liberal" on some issues and "Conservative" on others.
Apart from the ideological idiots of course :snooty:
Do you mean you want to start from scratch?
Okay; I subscribe to no political ideology, and you have no idea whatsoever about my views on any issues at all.
What would you like to know? :P
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BTW-
How is it, with all the slings and arrows I deal with in here, that I have never disavowed my conservatism, yet the rest of you writhe in agony at the prospect of being labeled liberal/socialist, or even communist, like my friend Rat?
