Re: Bush's immigration policy
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Originally Posted by Rat Faced
Thats coz there was absolutely nothing to say...
There was no process of naturalization at the time it was said... and it also didn't state that they had to become American Citizens anywhere in the statement i read at school.
If you move the goalposts, thats your problem :snooty:
Moved the goalposts?
Our naturalization process predates the Mexican flood, I think you'll find, provided you avoid the text you claim to have read in school.
Re: Bush's immigration policy
I have been reading where this policy negates our naturalization process. So is that what you think, j2?
Re: Bush's immigration policy
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Originally Posted by Helghast004
What I dont agree with is making spanish the second official language of the US
Is there an official language of the United States then?
Re: Bush's immigration policy
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Originally Posted by Everose
I have been reading where this policy negates our naturalization process. So is that what you think, j2?
I don't like the policy in practice, so much so that I cannot claim to have read it.
I have heard, though, that it gives short shrift to what was previously known as naturalization.
This "guest-worker" feature has the effect of summarily ending any need to ever "naturalize" any immigrant, ever again, which (nobody seems to have reached this surmise) also means that "immigrant" is soon to be just another obsolete term.
I heartily recommend the Administration further catagorize the "policy" to accomodate guest-criminals, with a sub-catagory: guest-terrorists.
There will no doubt be additional classifications as the various special interests (here, as well as in Mexico) weigh in on the matter.
Re: Bush's immigration policy
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Originally Posted by Helghast004
Eh, I live in south Texas and it still feels like im in the US...~looks again~ Yeah Im still here. :shifty:
Are you still there, Helghast004, or have you evacuated? :huh:
In other words, I dont think we have to worry about the US turning into Mexico numero dos anytime soon.
What I dont agree with is making spanish the second official language of the US and just letting in all the Illegal Immigrants walk in as they please.
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J2.
Surely there is a background check system supposed to be applied. One would hope a bit more involved than for a tourist even if not as detailed as a permanent or naturalised resident.
If you think the checks are sufficient or not is another matter.
Being realistic it seems to me that we could never eliminate illegal immigration and we do have certain industries that rely on the cheap workers so as a compromise and a means of reducing undocumented residents I can't oppose the idea totally. Plus they will be paying tax.
The idea has merits, time will tell if it works.
Re: Bush's immigration policy
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Originally Posted by vidcc
J2.
Surely there is a background check system supposed to be applied. One would hope a bit more involved than for a tourist even if not as detailed as a permanent or naturalised resident.
If you think the checks are sufficient or not is another matter.
Being realistic it seems to me that we could never eliminate illegal immigration and we do have certain industries that rely on the cheap workers so as a compromise and a means of reducing undocumented residents I can't oppose the idea totally. Plus they will be paying tax.
The idea has merits, time will tell if it works.
A "background check"?
That's hilarious.
We can't even begin to manage to naturalize these interlopers, yet we're going to do "background checks"?
By what miracle is this to be accomplished?
We could "eliminate" illegal immigration in a heartbeat by accomodating the laws that have to do with entering the country rather than ignoring them altogether; I would bet we could reduce it to statistically zero merely by cracking down.
Your (and Bush's) entire scenario presupposes a level of cooperation on the part of the transient Mexican (and his/her government) that will never be achieved via any amnesty program, I can assure you.
Re: Bush's immigration policy
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Originally Posted by j2k4
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Originally Posted by vidcc
J2.
Surely there is a background check system supposed to be applied. One would hope a bit more involved than for a tourist even if not as detailed as a permanent or naturalised resident.
If you think the checks are sufficient or not is another matter.
Being realistic it seems to me that we could never eliminate illegal immigration and we do have certain industries that rely on the cheap workers so as a compromise and a means of reducing undocumented residents I can't oppose the idea totally. Plus they will be paying tax.
The idea has merits, time will tell if it works.
A "background check"?
That's hilarious.
We can't even begin to manage to naturalize these interlopers, yet we're going to do "background checks"?
By what miracle is this to be accomplished?
We could "eliminate" illegal immigration in a heartbeat by accomodating the laws that have to do with entering the country rather than ignoring them altogether; I would bet we could reduce it to statistically zero merely by cracking down.
Why do you think we have not 'cracked down' on the borders?
Your (and Bush's) entire scenario presupposes a level of cooperation on the part of the transient Mexican (and his/her government) that will never be achieved via any amnesty program, I can assure you.
I think that has basically already been achieved. Except, of course, for their protection. But then I suppose it isn't that hard for them to get guns, either. ;-)
Re: Bush's immigration policy
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Originally Posted by Everose
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Originally Posted by j2k4
A "background check"?
That's hilarious.
We can't even begin to manage to naturalize these interlopers, yet we're going to do "background checks"?
By what miracle is this to be accomplished?
We could "eliminate" illegal immigration in a heartbeat by accomodating the laws that have to do with entering the country rather than ignoring them altogether; I would bet we could reduce it to statistically zero merely by cracking down.
Why do you think we have not 'cracked down' on the borders?
Your (and Bush's) entire scenario presupposes a level of cooperation on the part of the transient Mexican (and his/her government) that will never be achieved via any amnesty program, I can assure you.
I think that has basically already been achieved. Except, of course, for their protection. But then I suppose it isn't that hard for them to get guns, either. ;-)
Just so.
It seems I've started a fire hereabout.
I can never remember to bring the hotdogs... :huh:
Re: Bush's immigration policy
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Originally Posted by vidcc
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Originally Posted by Helghast004
What I dont agree with is making spanish the second official language of the US
Is there an
official language of the
United States then?
Ah...touche.
Yes the US doesnt have an official language. But what can be an obvious choice? English is definetly a dominate language here...at anyrate I have no further answers.
As for me evacuating...we'll just use this time to go camping. We leave in the morning for the state park further inland. If not, we'll just go to missouri with my family.
