A message to the americans:

I won't even pretend I'm intelligent enough to voice an opinion in rebuttal to that statement, as history and politics have never been my strong suit. Though I can't help but realize the blatant digression from what seemed a question of advancement, to what now seems to be a cause for voicing a bias vendetta.

Where exactly are you trying to go with this?

cyborgs.

and there's still a war forthcoming, when true artificial intelligence is developed and incorporated into household appliances. and we soon thereafter recognize our folly when said appliances rise up against us.

at which point the lizard men will reveal themselves. let's welcome our reptilian masters with open arms.

unfortunately, this also means that christmas will be cancelled indefinitely.

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Originally Posted by Damnatory

I won't even pretend I'm intelligent enough to voice an opinion in rebuttal to that statement, as history and politics have never been my strong suit. Though I can't help but realize the blatant digression from what seemed a question of advancement, to what now seems to be a cause for voicing a bias vendetta.

Where exactly are you trying to go with this?

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Nowere in particular right now. I'm one those who thinks it's important to know the past to understand how humanity works, and act and think taking this into account. Another boring teacher :) .
I'm not calling for vendetta, I don't think it would do any good to anyone. Maybe Just trying to have people aware maybe that's all. I think it can change the world for good when truth is not hidden. It brings trust.

It's to do with the freedom fries thing, isn't it?

However, there were also plenty of issues with Russia's brand of communism.

:shuriken:

It were more totalitarianism, I think. Unfortunately I don't know what that is.

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In more of an on-topic gesture, I agree that the "pioneer" mentality has come to a sickening stagnation, though I fail to realize how this ideal targets Americans in specific. We as a species, not specific nations, have the obligation to further our global collective. Unfortunately that pioneering spirit, the search for the unknown, has been dulled over by politics and morals. The 'catch-22' is that we trade rapid advancement, for safety. Something that I am definately willing to trade.

My only hope is that rather than waiting for someone to decide for you, you take the option to make the difference yourself. You have just as much of an opportunity to get the education to make a difference as any American citizen.

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Nice to see someone who got my point! I agree with you. One should never wait for anyone. But asking or pointing out something which might be done doesn't mean you have to be anxious, you can manage not to.
Also, I don't think you can deny that america fought against comunism or socialism for 50 years, and managed to have it killed in many coutries.
For Americans comunism meant "nuclear menace", but you forget that every single russian was given a house or an appartment for free at that time. People didn't have to give 30 years of their life to have the right to own a appartement like most people in europe japan or usa do for instance.
For many people comunism meant something. Thanks for killing people's dream :) . Maybe next time when you want to protect youself, try not breaking someone else's. Thx mr Truman!, thx mr Kennedy!, thx mr Nickson! and thx Mr Reagan! ( I don't know much about ford and carter :) ) Now what's the program for humanity? ;) explore cosmos? "No sorry today you work at MacDonald." "Does this mean I will have free hamburgers after work?" " Yes it does!!" Great!"

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Well communism does not have much room for advancement of the individual. The individual also doesn't have much of a voice either.

Maybe the basis of communism has good intentions since everyone works for the common good but that's only on paper.

I watched 60 Minutes the other day and Leslie Stahl asked a group of Chinese students (almost all boys btw) how many kids they wanted and they all said one.

Then many of them spouted Chinese doctrine about sacrificing for the country. Now this is all congruent with the population situation over there. However, the students thought Americans were selfish for having more than one kid.:unsure:

Under communism I doubt I could have a large home, work more to have more and so forth.

You think America crushed Russia's communism but I think it crushed itself.

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Under communism I doubt I could have a large home, work more to have more and so forth.

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You're probably right, unless of course you needed a large home.

"From each according to his abilities, to each according to his needs."

You're right in your statements. I'm far from saying communism is a perfect or the best system, actually I think that a form of liberalism (Not capitalism) with public health care and rate limited benefits would be the solution. I say it's a pity, there is nothing to fight for know, and nothing to compare the capitalism system with.

China is what you can call a salvage capitalism based system. It has nothing to do with the ideas of Karl Marks.

Talking about salvage capitalism, I was watching the Sopranos few days ago, and I asked myself: " Why is America showing such a program on tv??" I mean showing the human side of killing mobs! This musn't come free of charges :) And then I realised that mafia can be seen as an extrem manifestation of capitalism. No rules but the ones to protect the business. "It's a business" always says Antony Soprano. Nice shot! now one will think: That's ok to exploit your neighbour. You know... that's business.. the only way to stay alive, and keep your dignity. And as I'm not such a bastard like Antony Soprano (whom by the way is anyway a simpathetic guy) I can go on :) like that. I like you americans when you get cute :)

hum....nobody says a word. I appologize for being such a talking machine.