Hatton v Mayweather

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Originally Posted by Sextent

I agree he is a good enough boxer and young enough to be an all time great. However whether there will be enough other top class boxers about for him to prove he is one is another story.

I think you need situations like Leonard, Hagler, Duran, Hearns for that. Or Ali, Frazier, Forman. You know what I'm talking about. We all know eras where there were 3 or 4 really top boxers, of the same weight, at the same time. That's what makes all time greats.

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Indeed. In fact Tyson would of been looked on more kindly -
by history, if he would of faced stiffer competition.

Man, those Hagler Hearns fights were awesome.



-bd

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Originally Posted by brotherdoobie

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Originally Posted by Sextent

I agree he is a good enough boxer and young enough to be an all time great. However whether there will be enough other top class boxers about for him to prove he is one is another story.

I think you need situations like Leonard, Hagler, Duran, Hearns for that. Or Ali, Frazier, Forman. You know what I'm talking about. We all know eras where there were 3 or 4 really top boxers, of the same weight, at the same time. That's what makes all time greats.

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Indeed. In fact Tyson would of been looked on more kindly -
by history, if he would of faced stiffer competition.

Man, those Hagler Hearns fights were awesome.



-bd

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Not being a rapist would probably have been a decent choice for Tyson as well.

And also Leonard was much better than either Hagler or Hearns.

He was my favourite boxer ever as it happens.

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Originally Posted by Sextent

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Originally Posted by brotherdoobie

Indeed. In fact Tyson would of been looked on more kindly -
by history, if he would of faced stiffer competition.

Man, those Hagler Hearns fights were awesome.



-bd

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Not being a rapist would probably have been a decent choice for Tyson as well.

And also Leonard was much better than either Hagler or Hearns.

He was my favourite boxer ever as it happens.

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I agree with Sugar Ray being the better fighter. However those Hagler vs Hearns fights were feckin brutal.

Roy Jones Jr turned out to be some what of a disappointment.
I had high hopes for him. (lighting fast)

Ali was me favorite.


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I never rated Ali as "The Greatest".

He was the best heavyweight of his time, I'll agree with that but not the best boxer ever.

For me that was Leonard.

As a "pure" boxer I'll agree. I respect Ali for his political stance, at the height of his
boxing prowless. It took balls to be a black man in the 60's to stand up; like he did.


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Agreed, Ali was a much more important historical figure then Leonard was, by miles.

Particularly given the treatment of and attitudes towards black Americans at that time.

He changed the World more than Ray Leonard ever did or indeed could and it is a reasonable argument to suggest that Leonard could not have achieved what he achieved without Ali breaking the ground he did.

However from a purely boxing point of view, in my opinion, Leonard was the greatest.

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Originally Posted by Sextent

Agreed, Ali was a much more important historical figure then Leonard was, by miles.

Particularly given the treatment of and attitudes towards black Americans at that time.

He changed the World more than Ray Leonard ever did or indeed could and it is a reasonable argument to suggest that Leonard could not have achieved what he achieved without Ali breaking the ground he did.

However from a purely boxing point of view, in my opinion, Leonard was the greatest.

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He was lightning fast too! With a big feckin heart.

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And cute as a button.

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Originally Posted by Sextent

And cute as a button.

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:glag:


He was adorable. Anyhoo, I'll bet it didn't take too many punches - to figure out he wasn't just another pretty boy.


:noes:


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Originally Posted by brotherdoobie

Indeed. In fact Tyson would of been looked on more kindly -
by history, if he would of faced stiffer competition.

Man, those Hagler Hearns fights were awesome.



-bd

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Haglar only fought Hearns once.:dabs:

Tyson would be looked on more kindly by history if he didn't falter so badly at the end. He demolished some pretty good boxers.

He was just much better than them. You should see his older fights. He was fucking brilliant.