most user classes are outdated and lame

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Originally Posted by squirr3l

Ratio requirement should never be above 2, imo.

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Impossible, absolutely impossible, with a 2:1 ratio there would be a lot of people banned... the perfect ratio it´s 1:1, only so it´s secured that everybody can download and seed in the same amount, any other based strictly in up/down sacrifices users.

<2 ratio thingy was in context to the post above mine.

in other words, i was refering to ratio requirement for particular userclass NOT for the whole site.

FL Torrents should (theoretically & morally) only be used for slow pipe members to help them build ratio, phat pipers certainly don't need it, but they are the ones that jump on them as soon as and rape the BW dry. <holds ones hands up, been there and done it, with experience comes knowledge and thinking back what a silly tw@t I once was> But that next promotion depended on me giving back 3 or 4 times what I had downloaded, and I was getting stuff I didn't want but jumped on them to get to the next level, did I care about others, no - not a jot!!

Having a ratio requirement above 1.11 doesn't benefit all the members, all should be given the same chance to get torrents back to 1 if possible, and it would certainly diminish the buffer whores mentality if we could get trackers and their staff to realise this, and trades of hugely buffered accounts would disappear if stats above say ratio of 2 were ignored and not counted.

Remember, the basic premise of torrenting was taking 1GB and giving back 1GB and a bit and then moving on to the next torrent.

If we can change the mentality at grass roots, then we will all have a better torrenting experience for it.

There are always exceptions, and one of them will be long term seeding of your favourite torrents for your favourite trackers (adopt a torrent day), but I'm sure that can be worked in somehow.

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Originally Posted by squirr3l

<2 ratio thingy was in context to the post above mine.

in other words, i was refering to ratio requirement for particular userclass NOT for the whole site.

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My apologies then. :D


But you were very clear...

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Originally Posted by squirr3l

Ratio requirement should never be above 2, imo.

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In that case, for higher levels exigence could be that number, but I insist that my ideal site wouldn´t have users class, except uploaders and staff, goodies and additional privileges should be given by staff taking in consideration many factors.
Except in honorable and very rare exceptions, today whoever with a seedbox has a huge advantage, only meaning that in the most of the cases that the user has money.

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Originally Posted by Duckater

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Originally Posted by SgtMajor

Promotion should always be dependant on equal download as well as upload for that class, you can upload more of course, but if the amount is 500GB for promotion, then it has to be 500GB downed as well.

The highest promotion should be available only after 1 year membership, with proper benefits even if it's just upload rights.

And any tracker that requires a ratio of 2 or more needs their head checking, I saw one this week that required a ratio of 4+ for a certain high class promotion - that is just plain crazy, that means you have to steal mega BW from those less fortunate to be able to seed well in order just to get a promotion, not the best way to run a tracker for ALL its members.

As for levelling the field between seedbox users & non-seedbox users, I'll have to think about that, maybe bronze, silver & gold members for seeding habits, and stars for forum habits?

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Not a bad idea and may help git rid of some of the totally free leech sites as would be no down load stats recorded against the member :)

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you sir, are retarted... FTN, one of the most desired trackers is completely freeleech.

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Originally Posted by lukee

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Originally Posted by Duckater

Not a bad idea and may help git rid of some of the totally free leech sites as would be no down load stats recorded against the member :)

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you sir, are retarted... FTN, one of the most desired trackers is completely freeleech.

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Try to implant that system in the others trackers... in 30 days 90% of them disappear of the map.

Ratio requirement above 1 (no FL or seeding bonus) help the tracker into forcing members to donate.

Overseeding kills a tracker too sometimes. User classes were meant to encourage seeding, but apparently people with seedboxes just kill off the rest. That's why some people start valuing the forum more rather than the actual content of a tracker, but still, I agree with SgtMajor...FL should be for home connection users, not people with a 100 mbit seedbox.

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Originally Posted by LoKaLiRi

the bigger tracker - have a lot of members - have the same user classes , user , PU , etc ...

but the rarest trackers , they have special classes :)

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Probably not because of the user classes, but the fact that those trackers actually do extra coding to improve their site. I'm more attracted to a site that is never finished coding.

As long as you have the classic ratio system you will have ratio whore's period.