Why do traders cheat?

all traders don't cheat (cheat as in ratio cheating) but they do cheat entire bt community by trading accounts, misusing buffers, holding dupe accounts, inviting random trade partners who likely is a bad apple (ratio cheater, invite seller, hit and runner, and a trader at least).

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Originally Posted by puckface

traders=cheater does not equal cheater=trader

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but you're saying they are already equal "=" :P

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traders => cheaters =/ cheater => trader

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Originally Posted by squirr3l

all traders don't cheat (cheat as in ratio cheating) but they do cheat entire bt community by trading accounts, misusing buffers, holding dupe accounts, inviting random trade partners who likely is a bad apple (ratio cheater, invite seller, hit and runner, and a trader at least).

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Originally Posted by puckface

traders=cheater does not equal cheater=trader

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but you're saying they are already equal "=" :P

traders => cheaters =/ cheater => trader

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=/ is the same as does not equal.... thats what I wrote. Also, I do not a see a difference between a trader and a person who gives invites away at will.

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Originally Posted by 105802

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Originally Posted by basilhaydens

I'm a trader who doesn't cheat. Hell, I even have multiple accounts in many places, but I've never committed anything fraudulent and I've never cheated on my ratio.

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what a nice boy you are.... now if that doesnt merit a warning or a ban, I dont know what does. Hell I got an infraction for calling someone a bigot.

calm down people because otherwise this thread will be shutdown. in the world we have bad people, good people and people who does not give a sh*t to that. And they exist everywhere in every place. Is not an exclusive of a category. Deal with it by being a better person and try to convince others in a reasonable conversation. But try this on people that are avaiable to listen otherwise leave them talking to the wall.

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Originally Posted by stitched

all cheaters might trade but all traders dont cheat....
ur statement is like A knows B ,B knows C , so A knows C...which is not true, they teach this in highschool maths

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hehe, thats what I thought of, only I think i learned it in a philosophy class or something.

That being said, Im sure a lot of traders do cheat......I just always figured it was the fastest way for these jackasses to buffer their accounts to trade them.

Also, ppl that think they can trade themselves to the top, are IMO being lazy, not putting in the time, or bandwidth or whatever to get his/her goals. Why would these people stop cutting corners there?

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Originally Posted by basilhaydens

I'm a trader who doesn't cheat. Hell, I even have multiple accounts in many places, but I've never committed anything fraudulent and I've never cheated on my ratio.

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what a nice boy you are.... now if that doesnt merit a warning or a ban, I dont know what does. Hell I got an infraction for calling someone a bigot.

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2 point infraction for flaming someone who has blatant disregard for any trackers rules

i dont understand why he doesnt get banned but i get burnt with a 2 point infraction

lammeeeee

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Originally Posted by jasperr

you wouldn't need to survey the whole population........ just a small number and then calculate a percentage based off that... isn't that how they do any other survey... ??
However i'll have to agree with Detale, it still wouldn't be feasible nor would it be accepted ......... it still would be interesting though

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Yes this is the way it's done now, they take a small group and survey them but this is why all statistics are irrelevant and bullshit. Without surveying at very least a majority of the parties involved it makes no sense.

Lets say I survey 10 people here at FST and it so happens that 8 of them are from Canada then the stat would say that 80% of our members were Canadians and this is absurdly inaccurate see ;)-Penn and Teller Bullshit-

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what a nice boy you are.... now if that doesnt merit a warning or a ban, I dont know what does. Hell I got an infraction for calling someone a bigot.

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2 point infraction for flaming someone who has blatant disregard for any trackers rules

i dont understand why he doesnt get banned but i get burnt with a 2 point infraction

lammeeeee

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If you do this again you will get another infraction, Thanks

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Originally Posted by squirr3l

all traders don't cheat (cheat as in ratio cheating) but they do cheat entire bt community by trading accounts, misusing buffers, holding dupe accounts, inviting random trade partners who likely is a bad apple (ratio cheater, invite seller, hit and runner, and a trader at least).



but you're saying they are already equal "=" :P

traders => cheaters =/ cheater => trader

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=/ is the same as does not equal.... thats what I wrote. Also, I do not a see a difference between a trader and a person who gives invites away at will.

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i was not comparing =/ with does not equal :blink:

what i was saying was more in the line of...

traders equals "=" cheaters IS same as cheaters equals "=" traders

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traders implies "=>" cheaters IS NOT same as cheaters imples "=>" traders

oh well.

Much as I dislike the way trading has evolved and grown out of proportion I'd be surprised if nowadays that many of them cheat given the easy access to seedboxes. Several years ago unless you lived in a Scandinavian country you had shit upload speeds so yes some of the traders had to cheat to get invites and buffer their accounts.

So far most of those posting in this thread haven't been traders. I'd like to hear what our most prolific traders have to say about this.

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Originally Posted by squirr3l

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Originally Posted by puckface

=/ is the same as does not equal.... thats what I wrote. Also, I do not a see a difference between a trader and a person who gives invites away at will.

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i was not comparing =/ with does not equal :blink:

what i was saying was more in the line of...

traders equals "=" cheaters IS same as cheaters equals "=" traders

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traders implies "=>" cheaters IS NOT same as cheaters imples "=>" traders

oh well.

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miscommunication, now i got it

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Originally Posted by Detale

Yes this is the way it's done now, they take a small group and survey them but this is why all statistics are irrelevant and bullshit. Without surveying at very least a majority of the parties involved it makes no sense.

Lets say I survey 10 people here at FST and it so happens that 8 of them are from Canada then the stat would say that 80% of our members were Canadians and this is absurdly inaccurate see ;)-Penn and Teller Bullshit-

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Nah, the way statistics work is that a survey has a % of significance depending on the number of respontents there are, and how they are selected.. if you would survey 10 people on FST, the results would have a very low statistical significance. unless you survey everyone, you can never say for sure (100%).. but with a good sample, you might be able to draw a conclusion that might vary lets say +-2.5% of the real value.