STN goes P2L

The difference is TL doesnt ban you if you dont donate.....

Edit: yeah what Rart said

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Originally Posted by Rart

It's incredibly easy to seed at TL and power users get 2 invites every month. There is absolutely no need to donate at all. You can donate if you want to support the tracker, or if you're too dumb/connection isn't good enough to keep a ratio.

For STN, if you dont donate, you're banned from the tracker.

That's so similar. Why hadn't I seen it before?

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No doubt about, tl is my first, i just love it, but....... seriously, cut the crap.

Theyre doing it for the money. no need to discuss it.

About stn or whatever, its the same shit has usenet, or any other tracker that, requires a seedbox to survive.

The first time i saw 1 giveaway, where the word seedbox required, was mentioned, if im not mistaken, it was @ s zzzzzz t 2 or 3 years ago.

p2p is not generally free. ( exceptions ? there are some, not many )

what stn stands for?

stn ?

it stands for ...

www. some guy needs cash, and he decided to make a tracker.net

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Originally Posted by Bad-Day

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Originally Posted by Rart

It's incredibly easy to seed at TL and power users get 2 invites every month. There is absolutely no need to donate at all. You can donate if you want to support the tracker, or if you're too dumb/connection isn't good enough to keep a ratio.

For STN, if you dont donate, you're banned from the tracker.

That's so similar. Why hadn't I seen it before?

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No doubt about, tl is my first, i just love it, but....... seriously, cut the crap.

Theyre doing it for the money. no need to discuss it.

About stn or whatever, its the same shit has usenet, or any other tracker that, requires a seedbox to survive.

The first time i saw 1 giveaway, where the word seedbox required, was mentioned, if im not mistaken, it was @ s zzzzzz t 2 or 3 years ago.

p2p is not generally free. ( exceptions ? there are some, not many )

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Sure I do realize that many sites do do it for the money. I had made a thread a while back just about that topic. But there's a difference between using donation money and forcing people to donate. Forcing people to donate to use a tracker is a completely different ballpark, not to mention the legal entanglements that come with it. Even though many trackers may be profit oriented, it is in no way the same thing as forcing users to pay a fee to use the site.

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Originally Posted by Rart

I don't even understand how anyone could possibly just be ok with "move along". Not only are they forcing you to donate or get banned, the entire site is turning into a freaking business. I browsed there site for 3 more minutes and already found 2 more personal ads:

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You can upload your PDF file and we'll send you hard bound printed book!

Yes, that is correct, we'll print out in black and white, and bind it in commercial grade binding materal, emboss (hotstamp) information on it (front, spine, and/or back) and ship it to you

Prices are:
$8.00 for the hard binding and embossing
$0.005 per sheet (2 pages)

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And (In his signature)

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Visit: www.yoctogon.com for all your usernet, vps, and server needs.

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The site is turning into a blatant front for advertising. How could you simply accept this and "move along"? :dabs:

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He's old, has seen lots of stuff and is bitter. I can't really blame him, tbh. But I'm young(er) so I'm positive. Not about this site, but about p2p in general.

As for why this is happening, capitalism.

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Originally Posted by Rart

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Originally Posted by Bad-Day

No doubt about, tl is my first, i just love it, but....... seriously, cut the crap.

Theyre doing it for the money. no need to discuss it.

About stn or whatever, its the same shit has usenet, or any other tracker that, requires a seedbox to survive.

The first time i saw 1 giveaway, where the word seedbox required, was mentioned, if im not mistaken, it was @ s zzzzzz t 2 or 3 years ago.

p2p is not generally free. ( exceptions ? there are some, not many )

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Sure I do realize that many sites do do it for the money. I had made a thread a while back just about that topic. But there's a difference between using donation money and forcing people to donate. Forcing people to donate to use a tracker is a completely different ballpark, not to mention the legal entanglements that come with it. Even though many trackers may be profit oriented, it is in no way the same thing as forcing users to pay a fee to use the site.

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In the end, its all a crime.

Supertorrents = lexus
*** used it for the day to day life
** same has above
******* - even bough an iphone, and payed rent, he was unemployed.
balbalbalbla...


etc,,, unfortanly all the others who dont do that, are confused whit the ones above.

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Originally Posted by The_Martinator

As for why this is happening, capitalism.

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Capitalism's a religion that makes Satan a god and teaches self-righteous people to embrace a facade.It ain't wrong to make money legit or illegal but its treason when you turn your back on your people.Word?

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Originally Posted by Bad-Day

stn ?

it stands for ...

www. some guy needs cash, and he decided to make a tracker.net

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that's it

its the true F**k Stn :frusty:

There are some trackers that do not engage in any of the activities mentioned in the P2L argument (sans "sites that are ratio based are p2l (as you pay with your bw that costs you something" ).
As far as I know, Docs.Torrents.Ro and Tv.Torrents.Ro neither display ads nor take donations. I'm sure there are more.