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Neither Stephen Hawking, I am telling these people if a guy posted such a vile link in a Skype conversation, then he should be turned into LE. Surely you get this, what with your demonstrable intellect. I guess you missed the part about it in no way occurring on the site itself.Quote:
Originally Posted by AbyBeats
File sharing versus the aforesaid. . . jeeze
And it's lives and themselves. . .
and you think FEDS wont check into the skype history etc,and you think they wont find any connections to the tracker.yea rite.Or FEDS now arrest people by not checking logs/history or by not doing back ground check etc?And why would the admins/mods want themselves to be involved in an investigation?Quote:
Originally Posted by Aristocles
hmmmQuote:
Originally Posted by Aristocles
Stephen:Quote:
Originally Posted by AbyBeats
To answer you in a word: No. No I do not. If you see someone being assaulted and robbed while you are jaywalking, I guess you would do nothing.
Look, I find degenerates who engage in that filth to be the serpent's bellies of this oblate spheroid we exist on. I find anyone who doesn't act- regardless of personal risk- to stop them, reprehensible.
Yes, demonstrable. You clearly demonstrated it via your employment of the terms "lifes" and "themselfs".
If I have done anything wrong past/present I wouldnt dare to put myself in the middle of any investigations but I will try to help him/her myself by not involving the police.(In this case the mods/admin are distancing themselves from that guy).But if I havent done anything wrong past/present,I will have no fear in involving myself in an investigation.Is it so hard to grasp?Quote:
Originally Posted by Aristocle
lolQuote:
Originally Posted by Aristocle
Absolutely correct.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cabalo
Every time authorities need to enact censorship or monitoring on the internet, it is done in the name of anti-child pornography. Any connection to the (now publicly named*) individual is a
huge black mark on the site- and perhaps this community as a whole.
PTP needs to make a clear statement about its stance on the issue by permanently banning that individual.
As for the thread starter... the staff of PtP should have been alerted to your concerns before making this public. Also, the fact that you created a new account to post this here indicates you have probably spread the word to several other sites as well.
Bottom line- you should have handled this better yourself. Ever hear the term, "you protest too much"? You have not only brought unneeded attention to PtP, but you have also made yourself look like a tattle-tale child. Grow up. There is a lot of bad in the world- this individual may have simply been stupid, or may have a true problem. Not everything needs to become an investigation. A few harsh words from his peers may have been enough to put an end to his actions.
If I were in charge of a site, you would not be welcome there due to your poor handling of this. You are no hero...:dry:
I seem to recall hearing someplace:dry: that Law enforcement takes child pornography very seriously and spends considerable time and resources on tracking down those that distribute it.Quote:
Originally Posted by AbyBeats
I doubt( but you never know) if the person mentioned in this thread has serious ties to any network, but you are kidding yourself if you think that such an incident given voice here as other places will pass totally unnoticed by the authorities.
Those with any connection to the person allegedly guilty of doing it should take any and all actions appropriate to distance themselves from him or start considering what they might say to "the Feds" when asked "why when they knew about this they did nothing?"
Totally personal note but who the Hell would consider uploading something like that even as a joke?
I ask the same question of the OP who apparently linked to it.
For those of you saying the feds wouldn't notice his connections to PTP... there's nothing saying he wouldn't turn them in as retaliation or as an attempt to lighten his sentence. Tit for tat as it were.
I honestly have no idea what I'd do myself in that situation. It's all well and good for those of us up in our ivory towers to say we'd have called him in immediately, but we weren't there, we don't know him, and this doesn't involve us. He's a despicable person and should be called to task for it though, and the PTP staff are the only people who can do that.
Well, if this directed at my comments, listen up.Quote:
Originally Posted by ca_aok
1) I do not reside in an ivory tower but I do not have to to condemn a despicable pervert. Do you think if you are witness to one of the more vile actions of a human being that you must reside in an ivory tower to stand up and do something?
2) The guy who posted this is probably pissed about something else and lacks the moral courage to do shit about it.
3) Lighten his sentence? Are you joking? You are talking about a serious federal crime versus file sharing. "You are going to get 15-20 years but hey, rat out your buddies file sharing site and we'll knock off a decade or so. . ."
The last thing the community needs are disgusting freaks like this associated with it.
what is todays world coming too
To those who think I'm just some random member who is relaying information, that's not the case. I am Azazel. This account was made on here long ago but never used as part of my job at PTP and other places to catch traders and what not. When someone suggested I post this on here, I used this account which is the only one I have on here.
I DID speak to both z and exodussquared regarding this via IRC and I even included pics of the chat logs I had with them as proof of this. None of this has been denied by the PTP sysops, I just want to remind you all of that.
I didn't intend for this to me a smear campaign against the site itself but I had no choice. z and exodussquared were both in the convo, both saw what max was posting, both were contacted by me and asked to do something about this.
Nothing was done obviously. They are standing up for someone posting child porn links whether or not he was the one who uploaded them to begin with. I still don't see how this isn't a big deal yet they just look at it like "max just being max".