Re: "E" IRC support channel
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Originally Posted by
IdolEyes787
If it's reason is to be leetist cunts then it's succeeding admirably otherwise please elaborate on this "deserve/earned" bs talk.
If it's because lives are at stake, fine. If it's because it's "an underground design forum" then la de fucking da.
I think I wrote this on FST before when addressing the evolution of the torrenting community, but let me re-address the issue.
It started a few years ago with the BAPE remixing scene. If you have no idea what that is, look it up. Anyway, some of the major BAPE designers flooded the internet when DeviantArt, Flickr so on and so forth came out. With that their competitors came along to steal their ideas, and with those stolen ideas, they also started replicating graphic artist work from the internets. This not only annoyed people on DeviantArt, who wanted to sell their work, to no ends, but also opened them up to physical world litigious actions from people offended, annoyed or were culturally apathetic by or to their work. So, along with a few top artists, a few coders opened up private subsets of the DeviantArt community and invited contributing people to the new fora.
That's it. It's not about elitism. It's about sharing, and controlling the material you create, and that's simply why I don't publicize their information beyond what any of the other members do. By nature and reason of being, they do require the privacy.
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Re: "E" IRC support channel
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Originally Posted by
Darth Rings
With that their competitors came along to steal their ideas, and with those stolen ideas, they also started replicating graphic artist work from the internets. This not only annoyed people on DeviantArt, who wanted to sell their work, to no ends, but also opened them up to physical world litigious actions from people offended, annoyed or were culturally apathetic by or to their work.
It's about sharing, and controlling the material you create
You kind of lost me at the point of it all. To me it sounds like they formed a secret club, no girls allowed cause girls are stupid. It may seem a flippant remark, but I'm alluding to a more fundamental issue.
Re: "E" IRC support channel
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Originally Posted by
mjmacky
You kind of lost me at the point of it all. To me it sounds like they formed a secret club, no girls allowed cause girls are stupid. It may seem a flippant remark, but I'm alluding to a more fundamental issue.
I'm not one of the people who sold their work and were being short-changed by those blasted asians (is the sarcasm shining through now?), nor was I part of those harassed to no end for their work (this I actually feel bad for).
I just enjoyed these people's work and inspirational value, and joined the forum since they collaborated on a harmonic hiatus from public releases. I can't empathize with their reasons, but I respect them, and the reasons that got them there.
As for the membership, it's not a walled garden, by any chance. Every member can recommend a friend (or ten) for invitation. It's simply a safety layer to weed out the problem, not much unlike the original idealistic values for starting the first public trackers.
Re: "E" IRC support channel
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Originally Posted by
Darth Rings
I'm not one of the people who sold their work and were being short-changed by those blasted asians (is the sarcasm shining through now?), nor was I part of those harassed to no end for their work (this I actually feel bad for).
I just enjoyed these people's work and inspirational value, and joined the forum since they collaborated on a harmonic hiatus from public releases. I can't empathize with their reasons, but I respect them, and the reasons that got them there.
As for the membership, it's not a walled garden, by any chance. Every member can recommend a friend (or ten) for invitation. It's simply a safety layer to weed out the problem, not much unlike the original idealistic values for starting the first public trackers.
I think you meant to say first private tracker. And yes, I was under the impression that it was a walled garden. I would carry on, but surely my freedom to post what I want is slowly being chipped away, as I'm getting countless reports for my posts.
Re: "E" IRC support channel
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Originally Posted by
Darth Rings
That's it. It's not about elitism. It's about sharing, and controlling the material you create, and that's simply why I don't publicize their information beyond what any of the other members do. By nature and reason of being, they do require the privacy.
:idunno:
So they want to put things on the internet but keep it private like.
Good thinking.
Btw an artist lives to share his/her particular vision and gift and not to wall it away to better profit from it.
I think you may have erroneously joined an underground banking society.:mellow:
Anyway to further annoy I would suggest that this is the equivalent of getting teased at recess and so deciding that you don't wish to play anymore.
Higher stakes maybe but same principle.
No amend that, I think that there aren't enough secret places so that people who can rationalize such stupidity can all quietly fuck off and leave me alone.
Re: "E" IRC support channel
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Originally Posted by
Darth Rings
Precisely. I imagine with a site like Exigo and level whores it would also open the door to people asking for invites, but dealing with them is a z-line away, and the chances of helping a member increase dramatically.
It's not the help channel geniuses, it's the main channel. Hence the need for a key.
Re: "E" IRC support channel
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Originally Posted by
ca_aok
[lossless is] not the help channel geniuses, it's the main channel. Hence the need for a key.
They should really have a help channel to avoid these situations, but then again what do I care about their miscalculations.
Re: "E" IRC support channel
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Originally Posted by
mjmacky
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Originally Posted by
ca_aok
[lossless is] not the help channel geniuses, it's the main channel. Hence the need for a key.
They should really have a help channel to avoid these situations, but then again what do I care about their miscalculations.
Anyone who's a member there and (somewhat) active knows who to message if they need help with this sort of stuff. If they were to have a public help channel, people would just join and ask for invites.
Re: "E" IRC support channel
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Originally Posted by
foggyhaze
Anyone who's a member there and (somewhat) active knows who to message if they need help with this sort of stuff
Apparently not
Re: "E" IRC support channel
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Originally Posted by
foggyhaze
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Originally Posted by
mjmacky
They should really have a help channel to avoid these situations, but then again what do I care about their miscalculations.
Anyone who's a member there and (somewhat) active knows who to message if they need help with this sort of stuff. If they were to have a public help channel, people would just join and ask for invites.
They can join and ask for invites, but are politely told to leave since it is a help channel for those who are already members of the site. I know this because I have helped out on support channels in the past.Also the subject line on the irc channel usually explains clearly that it is a help channel for members and invite requests will not be accepted.
@ca_aok I was under the impression that the channel being discussed was a help channel not the main channel and this was clearly reflected in my post. I have never been a member of Exigo so don't have a clue about their irc chans.
