anybody else feel like the arse is falling out of the nzb download world?

the biggest problem with streaming is the content is all over the place where downloads you are go to the site and choose and watch what you like and for the busy people there is couchpotato and sickbeard its there when you get home ready to watch

I have been using the Usenet for many years, back to the days of the FreeAgent newsgroup reader. Many times over the years people have predicted its demise but it keeps on going.

I haven't had any real issues finding content (that I am looking for anyways), pretty much everything is available shortly after airing, and I love the HD goodness that a downloaded copy provides.

The ability to download over SSL has allowed me some peace of mind that it isn't obvious what I'm downloading vs torrents, plus as an added bonus my ISP doesn't seem to count SSL traffic against my monthly cap :)

I pretty much watch everything on a mobile device while commuting to work on public transportation. The problem with streaming on the subway in New York is you don't get a signal underground. SSL is a definite plus for downloading. No need to setup TOR or go through a VPN. Plus, you can't beat the download speed of some Usenet providers. The speed of some Torrent seeds can be mind numbingly slow.

I've tried the streaming services such as netflix and lovefilm. Problem is they only can show stuff that's old. That's fine but they also have a limit of how many films they can stream. So i saw that someone had watched a film on netflix that i really wanted to see. Signed up and found that the movie wasn't available. Im sticking with newsgroups fow new stuff and torrents for older stuff for now.

streaming isn't even an option for some people out in the boonies like me. my connection is at best 1mbps, usually averages about 280kb, so downloading is the only way to watch anything without going insane from the buffering.
I always rented at the local video stores, but that's not an option now either, as the closest "rental" option (a red box) is an hour away. I still buy the movies I like, when I can find them. I'd pay for a download too...in fact I do as my bandwidth is expensive.

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Originally Posted by lavangbay

yeah.... most of good stuff are being dcma'd rather very quickly nowaday... is usenet going into the toilet in a near future???

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usenet was there and still be there, just posting titles changes, with obfuscating techniques and encrypt+password protect rars etc, there is still way usenet binaries will be usable, i work with some of my friends with some new unique technique, but thats future, we are here now and all works good

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Originally Posted by Beck38

Data transmission (your ISP) is by far the most expensive piece of the puzzle, although there are some (few and far between) that offer huge bandwidth at low prices. Literally just down the street from me is FIOS (but not on my street and probably never will be, d***!) that has at least 5-10 times the bandwidth at about 1/2 the cost of DOCSIS3 cable. Or I could move to another part of my state where they have county-wide fiber access at about the same rates as FIOS.

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You could setup a deal with a neighbor and transmit the bandwidth via wifi..?

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Originally Posted by stubby777

I have been using the Usenet for many years, back to the days of the FreeAgent newsgroup reader. Many times over the years people have predicted its demise but it keeps on going.

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Yah, but in this case it is dying.. it grew considerably.. remember when it wasn't unlimited? Remember when retention was 100 days or 200?

What is going to happen to retention and all these providers if people stop paying..? it dies. sure they'll be some long holdouts.. let's say giganews stays in business forever for a few text-binary stuff.. but the usenet content is being somewhat removed.. who's gonna pay when there's nothing to get there?

So, I'm saying it's dying.. the business model is.. unless someone wants to fix it?? (totally fixable too!)

Basically if usenet could be provided for free.. (and it can) but these servers, the bandwidth and the power cost money.. the business model dies (the servers, retention, bandwidth) die if no one pays for it..

I don't think we'll end up with nobody paying for it. I think it'll end up being less mass-usage as it becomes more difficult and back to being a niche, and perhaps then less worthwhile for the take down requests. But probably not for a while yet...

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Originally Posted by theemaster

You could setup a deal with a neighbor and transmit the bandwidth via wifi..?

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Your idea is not too far-fetched, as there are many areas where people believe in open wifi access. However, it is a MUCH harder movement to get people to join when bandwidth is metered. Bottom line, more people need to protest metered usage. It is mainly designed to keep people from taking advantage of services such as Netflix, and keep Canadians watching Canadian channels. It is media territorialism, not the cost of bandwidth/equipment.

Welcome to the forums, theemaster. Your thoughts are appreciated. :)

anybody else feel like the arse is falling out of the nzb download world? No, not at all. It just got a little sticky there for awhile, but no worse than torrents and struggling to find seeders for what you are after. A good indexer and good provider and it's just like a new one :D