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Originally posted by j2k4@4 August 2004 - 23:32
Again, we are supposed to have Freedom OF Religion, and it is NOT a difficult concept to grasp.
I suppose agnostics and atheists are a bit put out at having no way to "express" themselves, but then, that is their lot: Tough Luck.[/color][/i]
yes J2 and all i was pointing out that i have the opposite experience.
I don't feel any need to "express" myself as an athiest, all i want is the right to hold my views to myself (isn't that what you want? ). I don't feel discriminated against in life for my views, just hassled sometimes.
However if you want freedom "of" (and i think you should have it) then you shouldn't have the " tough luck" attitude to those that differ.
I want freedom of religion and i would go to war to preserve that freedom but i don't wan't to be told I have to live my life in a certain way Because it says so in the bible or koran.
I have in the past joined in fund raising activities for churches, financially and physically.... But i haven't joined in with the prayer.
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[i][color=blue]And I find it saddening that assimilation has gotten such a bad rap, and people who are "different" are so because that is the way they want it.
I was more pointing to the need for things such as the political parties chasing the "balck/hispanic" vote but it is a two sided coin and yes you are correct about some groups wanting it that way and this is why i went to the lengths to say with the caps lock on we are AMERICANS.
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Immigrants need to read the fucking book, if you know what I mean; they aren't supposed to come to give the U.S. a dose of what they are all about.
I agree only slightly.
At what point did the USA become set in stone. Should we have always had that attitude thereby have us following the native American way of life? of course not.
Immigrants are what made this country what it is. They don't have the right to change the USA to make it a mirror copy of their homeland, (although we don't mind doing that to certain other countries ourselves), but they can bring fresh ideas and improvements.
We have a great country here, doesn't mean we are perfect
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We are "citizens of the world" only by geographic circumstance, vid.
Such grandiose, pie-in-the-sky phraseology can only lose it's naivete when everyone in the world feels the same way, and lives a life reflective of that same belief.
It won't be true in our lifetime.
I agree totally, all you have done is expand on something i wrote here.I wasn't being naive just pointing out something sad about humans.