The horrible effects of global warming....

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Originally Posted by Biggles

J2

Infamy! Infamy! :)

I did not mean what you thought I meant, I think. :blink:

I was merely amused by the small irony of consevatives not conserving due to alternative priorites (i.e. profit)

Of course this cannot be translated across the board as conservatives are a broad church and the Highland Laird who lives in his castle with his land his life is going to have a different political outlook from someone dealing in oil shares on wall street.

I really should not post and try and make dinner at the same time.

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:lol:

But infamy looks so good on you.

Back to basics, then:

You should try to cook dinner, not try "and", okay?

Success awaits!

(Sorry-don't get to do that, ever.:D )

Methinks also that some who are assholes are being gifted improperly with the sobriquet of "conservative"; make no mistake, they do exist.

vid:

You are off the mark, though, as it is your habit, I am loathe to relieve you of it. :P

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Originally Posted by Mr JP Fugley

your having a late dinner mate, it's quarter to nine for fecks sake

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It is now, but is was 7.18 when I made the somewhat opaque postage.

Dinner was successfully accomplished and teh kinder and ex were most complementary. I have the chicken gravy down to a fine art these days.

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Originally Posted by Biggles

Dinner was successfully accomplished and teh kinder and ex were most complementary. I have the chicken gravy down to a fine art these days.

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That's excellent, then.

Gravy of any sort is a gambler's nightmare.

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Originally Posted by Mr JP Fugley

i am quite sure your chicken gravy is to die for. certainly for t'chicken.

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As the old joke goes "the chicken was committed to it whereas I ..."

I wrote a whole load of bollocks, but thought that a few pictures would speak louder than all those words.

http://www.worldviewofglobalwarming....ges/vostok.jpg
Just for reference on the CO2 one above we are currently at 380ppm ie the scale would have to be increased by 60% to plot our curent concentration.

http://www.planktos.com/images/CO2.gif


http://www.planktos.com/images/co2_conc_em.gif


http://www.planktos.com/images/globaltemp.gif


http://www.planktos.com/images/iceagetempcycles.gif


http://www.planktos.com/images/execsu1.gif

Lovely C02 temperature correlation.

Not sure what Manny would say about a 400,000 year old ice core though. :)

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Originally Posted by Biggles

Not sure what Manny would say about a 400,000 year old ice core though. :)

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God liked to give things an "antique" effect :unsure:

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Originally Posted by Biggles

Lovely C02 temperature correlation.

Not sure what Manny would say about a 400,000 year old ice core though. :)

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lmao

and its true when i was looking into all those creationism/evangelism websites for the evolution topic, they all dismissed global warming (and indeed pretty much all pollution) as nonsense, which i suppose makes sense if the earth is only 6000 years old and god is always on hand to sort out any big mistakes :rolleyes:

bit disturbing though.

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Originally Posted by ilw

lmao

and its true when i was looking into all those creationism/evangelism websites for the evolution topic, they all dismissed global warming (and indeed pretty much all pollution) as nonsense, which i suppose makes sense if the earth is only 6000 years old and god is always on hand to sort out any big mistakes :rolleyes:

bit disturbing though.

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Unfortunately, if you accept a young earth then such fluctuations cannot possibly be, therefore any science data associated with such predictions has to, by default, be flawed. Fortunately, there are not enough young earthers to make a difference to the climate.

I do not believe for one moment that the Whitehouse gives such stuff credence. Any stalling on moves to deal with emissions is purely economic with one eye towards changing policy if the fan looks messy.

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Originally Posted by j2k4

BTW-

If the next Ice Age begins next year, how are you going to blame it on Conservatives or American big business, having invested all of your political capitol and credibility in the global warming scenario?

Would it not be preferrable to keep your options open; i.e., honestly expressing your true belief that, no matter what ills befall the big blue marble, it is the fault of Conservative big-business America, or any variation thereof?

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j2k4, as incredible as it may seem, global warming could well bring on another ice age. You can GOOGLE lots of articles about this. The Ice Age temperature chart posted by ilw shows how ice ages follow periods of high temperature, suggesting they are brought about by said temperatures.

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Terrence Joyce, senior scientist at the prestigious Woods Hole Oceanographic Institution in Massachusetts, recently developed a theory that links this gaseous heating of the planet to the onset of a possible ice age.

His article in the New York Times, titled "The Heat Before the Cold," warns: "paradoxically, global warming could actually bring colder temperatures to some highly populated areas like Eastern North America and Western Europe."

Joyce said there has been a gradual buildup of fresh water in the North Atlantic, caused by the melting Arctic ice, which is lowering the salt content of the ocean. This, in turn, threatens to slow or turn the ocean current of warm water that flows from the tropics northward along the East Coast of the United States before turning toward Europe.

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Hobbes: That particular article was indeed based on local conditions, however, it has global consequences. If stress, in the form of drought, or anything else, can cause forests to emit CO2, changing weather patterns, such as El Ninos, could have catastrophic effects in unexpected ways.