Concerns about new secret trackers

too long to be honnest :|

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Originally Posted by Cerise

too long to be honnest :|

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Me or this thread?

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Originally Posted by SHUVT

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Originally Posted by Cerise

too long to be honnest :|

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Me or this thread?

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Yeah you!

its only 12 inches jeez is that too long?

Although i think that the thread has alot of positive points liked the big advertisments on what's supposed to be asecret tracker but it seems that it has turned to be an attack on the new trackers (RTS,SCN or even torrentit)

These Trackers either have started afew days ago like RTS (around 4 days i think) or is going to start in 2 days like (SCN) or in acouple of weeks like (TiT)

None of these trackers will begin to be the best because that takes time but u can feel the hard work of these trackers aiming to be good trackers

I am amember at RTS and SCN and i know some of the staff there and i know that they are working hard to move their tracker up to be one of the best

Regarding RTS and as amember there i really enjoyed their packs very well and their forums there is too much active and yesterday they beated sct pre time in acouple of torrents

They still needs alot of improvemnet because their 0-day stuff isn't really that good but their packs are awesome and from what i heard they are trying to reach 1000 torrents in 2 weeks which is an awesome quantity in my opinion

and For The security i saw that they made an announcement yesterday that they will be moving to NL

and for the rarity thing and the words that they wanna be ranked at the top by not allowing trades ,i don't think that might be true atm because for them to be ranked it's gonna take awhile and i saw plenty of giveaways flowing in the invites section and all of us were given 10 invites to send so if they cared about rarity they wouldn't have given invites and ask people to giveaway them

I think all these new trackers needs time to see what they will become,if they become good trackers then that would be an addition to the current trackers available and if they turned to be bad then they will be forgotten soon

and for those who are saying that the tracker may have security issues then why don't u pm their sysop and tell him what u found but i think instead of trying to talk about security problems in this new trackers u should look at your tracker first and try to improve your shitty speeds and fix your holes especially because some of the trackers u r running were hacked before :lol:

Give the new trackers time and let's see what will happen :yup:

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Originally Posted by Patriot foreve

and for those who are saying that the tracker may have security issues then why don't u pm their sysop and tell him what u found but i think instead of trying to talk about security problems in this new trackers u should look at your tracker first and try to improve your shitty speeds and fix your holes especially because some of the trackers u r running were hacked before :lol:

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Well my friend it doesn't work this way. People who discovered security holes could notify a sysop BUT any help to members who signed-up without knowing about security holes, is highly appreciated.

If you notify a sysop, how would you know if and when they will find/fix the holes?

At least if you notify simple members, you are helping them at least to be cautioned, notified of the danger of U.S. hosting, especially if they are U.S. citizens.

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Originally Posted by Patriot foreve

Although i think that the thread has alot of positive points liked the big advertisments on what's supposed to be asecret tracker but it seems that it has turned to be an attack on the new trackers (RTS,SCN or even torrentit)

These Trackers either have started afew days ago like RTS (around 4 days i think) or is going to start in 2 days like (SCN) or in acouple of weeks like (TiT)

None of these trackers will begin to be the best because that takes time but u can feel the hard work of these trackers aiming to be good trackers

I am amember at RTS and SCN and i know some of the staff there and i know that they are working hard to move their tracker up to be one of the best

Regarding RTS and as amember there i really enjoyed their packs very well and their forums there is too much active and yesterday they beated sct pre time in acouple of torrents

They still needs alot of improvemnet because their 0-day stuff isn't really that good but their packs are awesome and from what i heard they are trying to reach 1000 torrents in 2 weeks which is an awesome quantity in my opinion

and For The security i saw that they made an announcement yesterday that they will be moving to NL

and for the rarity thing and the words that they wanna be ranked at the top by not allowing trades ,i don't think that might be true atm because for them to be ranked it's gonna take awhile and i saw plenty of giveaways flowing in the invites section and all of us were given 10 invites to send so if they cared about rarity they wouldn't have given invites and ask people to giveaway them

I think all these new trackers needs time to see what they will become,if they become good trackers then that would be an addition to the current trackers available and if they turned to be bad then they will be forgotten soon

and for those who are saying that the tracker may have security issues then why don't u pm their sysop and tell him what u found but i think instead of trying to talk about security problems in this new trackers u should look at your tracker first and try to improve your shitty speeds and fix your holes especially because some of the trackers u r running were hacked before :lol:

Give the new trackers time and let's see what will happen :yup:

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Please dont put TiT in with RTS and SCN. TiT will not have any problem making a great tracker. The staff/coder/uploaders for the most part will all be back. TiT i am sure will be one of the best sites again with in a month of opening the doors. They already have a great member base just waiting to get back in.


RTS nad SCN are both unproven and there staff unproven. Now i am not saying they wont be good or a great site but its going to take them a hell of a long time.


Plus i feel 1 of the 2 new trackers RTS and or SCN will fail and close up shop. Based on how some of them are already started.

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Originally Posted by Patriot foreve

and for those who are saying that the tracker may have security issues then why don't u pm their sysop and tell him what u found but i think instead of trying to talk about security problems in this new trackers u should look at your tracker first and try to improve your shitty speeds and fix your holes especially because some of the trackers u r running were hacked before :lol:

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Well my friend it doesn't work this way. People who discovered security holes could notify a sysop BUT any help to members who signed-up without knowing about security holes, is highly appreciated.

If you notify a sysop, how would you know if and when they will find/fix the holes?

At least if you notify simple members, you are helping them at least to be cautioned, notified of the danger of U.S. hosting, especially if they are U.S. citizens.

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Well most of the holes in there code can be fixed by reading a thread in tbdev. not all but most holes. They just did not plan this out very good and rushed to open the doors. Which i think will end up in failure. But thats just what i think.



Wild

In reguards to the trackers being hacked... Can you name 1 site that hasnt been hacked at 1 point?

SCT was hacked.
TL was hacked.
Hell even Jaits site was hacked. (Contrary to what they may tell you.)

All these sites being hacked is what acctually made me point out some of the issues both sites had. Ive been there and done that. When alot of the currently existing sites were hacked there wasnt as much available knowledge at our disposal about how to prevent these.
I know alot of coders over look simple things (Myself included) which is why its always good to get a 2nd opinion to seeing if the source is secure or not.

As far as beating SCT pres. Anyone can do that. Ill say this again. It all depends which site has an active uploaders watching whats pre'ing. Whoever jumps the gun first gets the file first. But in any case SCT pre times havent been all that great lately. They could easily have just downloaded the file off TL or anywhere else and beating SCT pre on a few particular files. No 1 site beats every other site all the time.

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Originally Posted by wildbytes

Please dont put TiT in with RTS and SCN. TiT will not have any problem making a great tracker. The staff/coder/uploaders for the most part will all be back. TiT i am sure will be one of the best sites again with in a month of opening the doors. They already have a great member base just waiting to get back in.
Wild

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TiT is coming back?! OMG! OMG! OMG!

I'll be one of them folks waiting for TiT to open again.. those guys were the best. Their community and content were awesome! Ah.. I wish the old times will be relived again.. :happy:

Sorry for the offtopic post btw, I had to jump up and down.. :D you guys go on with your bitching and bickering! This thread is so fun.. :P

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Originally Posted by wildbytes

Please dont put TiT in with RTS and SCN. TiT will not have any problem making a great tracker. The staff/coder/uploaders for the most part will all be back. TiT i am sure will be one of the best sites again with in a month of opening the doors. They already have a great member base just waiting to get back in.
Wild

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TiT is coming back?! OMG! OMG! OMG!

I'll be one of them folks waiting for TiT to open again.. those guys were the best. Their community and content were awesome! Ah.. I wish the old times will be relived again.. :happy:

Sorry for the offtopic post btw, I had to jump up and down.. :D you guys go on with your bitching and bickering! This thread is so fun.. :P

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Where you been bro? Sleeping? :lol: There are several threads withthe TiT info for ya.

OK someone start some crap, cause I am bored this morning and I don't have the energy yet.

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Originally Posted by SHUVT

Where you been bro? Sleeping? :lol: There are several threads withthe TiT info for ya.

OK someone start some crap, cause I am bored this morning and I don't have the energy yet.

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:lol: Ok ill instigate something but ill switch to my dupe account first. :w00t:

Yea, Kinda been sleeping with regards to the whole torrent scene for a while now.. Was too drawn with events in real life!

Kudos to you for starting this thread.

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Originally Posted by DefianceX

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Originally Posted by SHUVT

Where you been bro? Sleeping? :lol: There are several threads withthe TiT info for ya.

OK someone start some crap, cause I am bored this morning and I don't have the energy yet.

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:lol: Ok ill instigate something but ill switch to my dupe account first. :w00t:

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:lol: Ok well keep it entertaining please. I need a good subject so that I can add my colorful comentary to it. Oh and I have my pen ready to connect the dots. ;) I bought a new one last night. Sneaky bastards. :lol:

Well i believe my friend SHUVT here has found his calling.

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Originally Posted by Shadowfire

So now we have all these cool new secret trackers, including ScN and RTS, which have evoked some of my concerns. I'm voicing my preliminary perceptions, which are parallel to those of many other FST users, so I've seen.

These trackers plead for so much privacy and only top notch users with high upload capabilities. Well then, why hype it so much in the BitTorrent forum? It's understandable that you want to inform users about the great potential of your tracker, but once people are interested in it, you strike the majority of them down from obtaining invites. Many users have pointed out that this raises the suspicion that this tracker was created only to try to get 5 stars in the WIAW thread.

Staff have apparently warned against any and all invite trading of these secret sites. That's excellent in terms of recruiting only great sharers, but why must you go parading around the BT Invites forum telling users not to trade them? The BT Invites forum is a trading spot for traders to trade invites for all assorted trackers, except for trackers that have specific invite deals with FST (periodically giving out invites in return for FST helping catch account traders). Do these new secret trackers have deals with FST? If not, then you should leave the forbidding of invite trading to your tracker. Meaning, if you catch any traders, then disable them in your tracker. Outside of your tracker, in these public forums, people can do whatever they want as long as it's in agreement with these forums' admins. I understand that you may be trying to warn these users, but why make these premature threats that "If" these traders get into your site, they'll be disabled? I know that you staff of these secret trackers are elite traders on FST. So know you can empathize with other tracker staff, but I find it extremely hypocritical that you can only impose these rules about your tracker after you've finished being such huge traders.

A note to all of you speculating about these trackers: You logically can't. You have to see how it actually plays out, not emptily predicting based on subjective information given to you from tracker insiders.

With that being said, I'd like to wish all the best to these trackers, and I hope that you outlive my perception of some of your faulty logistical tactics.

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Originally Posted by FST

Never pay for File Sharing!

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Trading here is is actually barter; which is another form of payment

A type of File-Leeching that FileSharingTalk.com specifically warns against, probably the worse kind too. The trading of complete power+ accounts, (often with leech buffer) is fraud. These members advertising openly the trade of such accounts, should be immediately banned IMO.

So.."Don't Cry To Me Argentina!"

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Originally Posted by Patriot foreve

Regarding RTS and as amember there i really enjoyed their packs very well and their forums there is too much active and yesterday they beated sct pre time in acouple of torrents

They still needs alot of improvemnet because their 0-day stuff isn't really that good but their packs are awesome and from what i heard they are trying to reach 1000 torrents in 2 weeks which is an awesome quantity in my opinion

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ummm..... they just steal their packs from FTN and other trackers. they cant even make their own packs. can't even rename the directory lol

You can tell who's a member by all the kool guy points they have...I guess i'm not that kool because I refuse to trade. I disabled my account...

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Originally Posted by phrenzy

You can tell who's a member by all the kool guy points they have...I guess i'm not that kool because I refuse to trade. I disabled my account...

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Rep given... Bit your quitchen. :lol:

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Originally Posted by DefianceX

Well i believe my friend SHUVT here has found his calling.

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:lol::lol::lol:

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Originally Posted by DefianceX

Well i believe my friend SHUVT here has found his calling.

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I am not sure... I was never that good at the connect the dots coloring books when i was kid. I always ended up with a giraffe when the damn thing was suposed to be a puppy. So no worries all of you with alternate identitiies here it may take me quite some time. :lol:

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Originally Posted by tintin123

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Originally Posted by Patriot foreve

Regarding RTS and as amember there i really enjoyed their packs very well and their forums there is too much active and yesterday they beated sct pre time in acouple of torrents

They still needs alot of improvemnet because their 0-day stuff isn't really that good but their packs are awesome and from what i heard they are trying to reach 1000 torrents in 2 weeks which is an awesome quantity in my opinion

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ummm..... they just steal their packs from FTN and other trackers. they cant even make their own packs. can't even rename the directory lol

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stealing stolen packs, thats a good one, you come up with that on your own?

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Originally Posted by tintin123

ummm..... they just steal their packs from FTN and other trackers. they cant even make their own packs. can't even rename the directory lol

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stealing stolen packs, thats a good one, you come up with that on your own?

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Well he did add the "directory" I think... LOL

Damn you......ha ha ha ha

The point of Bittorent is to share with each other.

Since invites came along everyone started to get gready of who should get an invite or not, so its hard to get invites to any tracker now :/

Best way to stop it, is for people to stop being egoistic and just share more! (Both Invites and Files)

not true,
to this day I have given out and recieved more invited for free then I have traded away/for.
I know I am not the only one out there like this.

Well that's because along with BitTorrent came the eternal leechers, various antipiracy groups got more aggressive and other bad stuff.

Edit for above post: I have never ever traded an invite. Given back out of appriciation a few, but I would have got them for free, so that's not trading. And I have given out lots to users who proved to be good seeders and not just leechers.

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Originally Posted by trad3r

not true,
to this day I have given out and recieved more invited for free then I have traded away/for.
I know I am not the only one out there like this.

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Maybe you were lucky, but not everyone gives them out for free just like that.

Build your ratio on some site that you are on, without cheating, then use that as proof. Go out of your way just to be nice to other users. E.g. uploading requests. And just give it time.

The reason users don't go handing out invites right and left, is because of the risk that they might be inviting cheats etc. which will put their own accounts in jeopardy.

After doing that for a while, you will see how nice other people are, and that it's just as much about the community.

I'm not talking about some of the trade whores here, I'm sure there are a few of those. But the others are decent people.

Edit: Also I would think twice before handing out an invite to someone, who uses torrent Pro instead of n00b.

yup, i get the fear too...
one of the peeps i recently invited somewhere was accused of cheating on another site in a post here... didn't make me happy, but thats the risk you run giving away invites. As stated before, be nice, go out of your way for others, and they may do the same for you. I am still keen on giving away invites even after this incident.

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Originally Posted by Blue_Skies

Edit: Also I would think twice before handing out an invite to someone, who uses torrent Pro instead of n00b.

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I've used torrents for a long time, I've seeded like 100GB on several Full Season TV Shows, so why would I have that corny title? :lol:

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Edit: Also I would think twice before handing out an invite to someone, who uses torrent Pro instead of n00b.

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I've used torrents for a long time, I've seeded like 100GB on several Full Season TV Shows, so why would I have that corny title? :lol:

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Well does that make you a Pro. Do you know what Pro stands for?

A Pro makes a living out of what he does, so does that mean that you run torrentsites skimming money? or you sell your downloads, or maybe invites? Maybe you burn lots and lots of CDs and DVDs that you sell to people incl. coverart and the works? Maybe you program or modify clients to cheat and sell them???

Which is it? Because being a pro does not mean that you know how to use a torrent client or that you uploaded 100 GB of some show.

Just thought you would want to know ;)


Edit: Sorry for going off topic, but it was just too damn tempting :D

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Originally Posted by Blue_Skies

Well does that make you a Pro. Do you know what Pro stands for?

bla bla bla I write a lot of crap because I think I am so cool which I am not.

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Like you say yourself Bla bla bla, lots of crap in that post so now I could understand why you would call yourself a noob and thats because you spam like one with stuff that people doesnt give a crap about :whistling

Stop fish for points, stop being lame, and try stay ontopic now :pinch:

Well I'm in and you're not

And before you start some pissingmatch here, almost everybody here has uploaded 100s of GB

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Originally Posted by tintin123

ummm..... they just steal their packs from FTN and other trackers. they cant even make their own packs. can't even rename the directory lol

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stealing stolen packs, thats a good one, you come up with that on your own?

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um huh? one of the mods d/led a FTN pack then u/led it on RTS without even botherin to change the name of the torrent...still had FTN in it... then got banned from FTN for doing so.

i have screenshot proof but wont post in public cuz it was a staffer who uploaded it.

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um huh? one of the mods d/led a FTN pack then u/led it on RTS without even botherin to change the name of the torrent...still had FTN in it... then got banned from FTN for doing so.

i have screenshot proof but wont post in public cuz it was a staffer who uploaded it.

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you havent quite understood..

i think he was referring to the fact that the movie packs or whatever are all pirated and 'stolen' from the copyright owners in the first place... no matter what site put the collection together.

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um huh? one of the mods d/led a FTN pack then u/led it on RTS without even botherin to change the name of the torrent...still had FTN in it... then got banned from FTN for doing so.

i have screenshot proof but wont post in public cuz it was a staffer who uploaded it.

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you havent quite understood..

i think he was referring to the fact that the movie packs or whatever are all pirated and 'stolen' from the copyright owners in the first place... no matter what site put the collection together.

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i know what he meant. im just sayin patriot is saying they have great packs and all that, but they just steal them from other trackers and dont even compile them themselves.

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you havent quite understood..

i think he was referring to the fact that the movie packs or whatever are all pirated and 'stolen' from the copyright owners in the first place... no matter what site put the collection together.

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i know what he meant. im just sayin patriot is saying they have great packs and all that, but they just steal them from other trackers and dont even compile them themselves.

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Yeah well, every site has to start on some ground.

hmm

why did you bump this thread?

yeah, wtf?