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I guess because it was fragile long time ago and it was meant to happen one day.Quote:
Originally Posted by bunny67
Unfortunately when a glass is ultimately broken you can't fix it either...
You have to substitute it with a new one.
We 'll have to sit and wait I guess.:ermm:
Let's hope the new system is better and not worse...
This is a mad house
A forum about filesharing and cummunity
A place for torrenter to break tracker rule
And yet be save
because this is the place.
Change and be respected
continue .....
I didn't quite understand that but the chick in your avatar is hot :naughty:Quote:
Originally Posted by TP635
It is not meant to be understood, cos I don't understand wtf is going on here. :frusty:Quote:
Originally Posted by BrandonI didn't quite understand that but the chick in your avatar is hot :naughty:Quote:
Originally Posted by TP635
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Originally Posted by TP635It is not meant to be understood, cos I don't understand wtf is going on here. :frusty:Quote:
Originally Posted by Brandon
:lol: :console:
brandon deserve it too- he is a guru :lol: and isn't because of he is a Ftn sysop
I hope you dont implement this BT Guru thing and make those so called gurus feel like demigods.
But if you do go ahead with this then i'd only recommend TheFox because he has a few key ingredients of which almost any "n00b" can relate to which is :-
1) Friendly
2)Wise
2) Unbiased
3) Non-elitist
TheFox = The Mentor of gurus :smartass:
Well theres be a fair amount of demand to keep something similar to the CR layout. This thread started with the appearance of BT Guru being the way to go. Though reading through now weve received a more balanced view of things. Were going to attempt to put something together that would combine these. Well I guess that would be trying to please all...
What will happen to the account trading/giveaways, which are by far the worse thing on this forum? and just to be clear, I'm talking as a whole, not only for trackers where staff get appointed BT-GuruQuote:
Originally Posted by RealitY
Thanks Reality :)Quote:
Originally Posted by RealitY
Well, I'll try to comment for him since i've seen a rough draft of the new system.. Think of it as similar to the previous only more tightened. Meaning, only those who are involved in the system will have immunity to acct trades etc. He can correct me if i'm wrong on that but this is what it looks like.Quote:
Originally Posted by Blue_SkiesWhat will happen to the account trading/giveaways, which are by far the worse thing on this forum? and just to be clear, I'm talking as a whole, not only for trackers where staff get appointed BT-GuruQuote:
Originally Posted by RealitY
Essentially those of us who got turned against who shouldn't have, should be in good shape now thus continuing the general "happy nature" we had here previously.
I don't know why you bt staff want to be CR reps. You might think you are stopping acct trades, but all you do is push it underground. At least when you are not CR rep, you can ban invite trades, and account giveaways (an invite giveaways, but noone seems to care about that). More of you should just go the way of sct/scc and just boycott these regulations, and lurk + ban /get others to lurk + ban, to help clean up the trouble makers.
If account/invite and giveaway's trading in public were to be prohibited(Specific to each and every tracker).
The key thing would be, that each mod or admin, from each specific tracker, would have to pm "Reality himself" to be put on I approve account/invite trading or i disapprove account/invite trading list, and sticky it in the bt invite section.
Have two seperate stickies. If you do that then this BT Guru, i think would really work out. 90% of the problem would be instantly solved, just knowing this option exists on FST.
I think the main problem now? Is that BT Staff, don't want to come to FST and babysit the BT Invite section 90% of the time(Especially with no rules on account/invite trading)it's a free for all. That would mean, they would not get any enjoyable experience for themselves. Being able to make useful or helpful posts to educate and help members.
It's one thing to help users with questions regrading their specific tracker, but another, when you have to play the harbinger of death role towards all users on fst(Being portrayed as the big bad wolf basically out to disable and ban members accounts).
So basically it will be the old system with a new name? Trackers that don't have staff that has a BT-Guru here will have no way to stop account trades/giveaways without lurking in the bushes.Quote:
Originally Posted by BrandonWell, I'll try to comment for him since i've seen a rough draft of the new system.. Think of it as similar to the previous only more tightened. Meaning, only those who are involved in the system will have immunity to acct trades etc. He can correct me if i'm wrong on that but this is what it looks like.Quote:
Originally Posted by Blue_Skies
Essentially those of us who got turned against who shouldn't have, should be in good shape now thus continuing the general "happy nature" we had here previously.
Doesn't sound like a good system to me at all. It sounds like a system where FST gets pretty much the same or even more hatred from tracker staff, and people will have to continue their hiding if on here.
I mean, even though it helps, it still makes e.g. me very reluctant to even let people know who I am at trackers. And if there was some sort of trouble with an account of mine, no way would I ask for help here.
It's starting to get old with this different username than on trackers, and it just shows what kind of place FST is/was/has become?
well it's not exactly the same thing, from what i've heard, BTGuru wouldn't have to accept their invites to be trade freely on FST.
Staff might find this is an important improvement.
Account treadering has no places in the torrenting community and should be treated in the same way as ratio cheaters. I can't see way this forum can tolerate it; even encourage it.
Yet at the same time we want tracker rep as Guru.
u cant say fst should stop tradeing accounts and allowe tradeing invites its something the members should be educate themselves about and convinced by this if u will stop tradeing accounts in forum then u wont stop tradeing accounts via pms so it will be useless
i say give the members choice to decide what they relly want let the ppl who wanna trade do it coz they will do it in anyway here or in onther forum or in via pms and let the ppl who dont like to trade do what ever they want .
and i still say if u want to stop trade ( just if u relly think you can ) then stop trade invites and accounts if u want to allowe it then allowe both and for all trackers not for one and other not
If you want trackers staffs to have respect of this forum, then BAN any/all activities that is against trackers rules. Simple.Quote:
Originally Posted by supper
BAN is not the solution always they have to decide by thier selves what they relly need or what the wrong or the right rules never change the attitudes or the toughts..Quote:
Originally Posted by TP635If you want trackers staffs to have respect of this forum, then BAN any/all activities that is against trackers rules. Simple.Quote:
Originally Posted by supper
but u still can educate them and clear ur points about how is the trade is relly bad and let the staffer do more giveaways to let the traders think the trade is not the only way to get what he want always .
Supper although we have different views I do respect yours and you are a helpful member, but ultimately it is the tracker owners and staff that make the rules not the users. It is the one way that they have of saying who they want to come to their party, and we are guests of them. In the eyes of the tracker staff, invite trading and account trading are two very different animals, this is why there was that distinction under the CR agreements. Account trading leaves staff with an unknown quantity on their tracker, someone that needs to be traced and disabled since they are not the user they pretend to be.Quote:
Originally Posted by supperBAN is not the solution always they have to decide by thier selves what they relly need or what the wrong or the right rules never change the attitudes or the toughts..Quote:
Originally Posted by TP635
but u still can educate them and clear ur points about how is the trade is relly bad and let the staffer do more giveaways to let the traders think is the trade its not the only way to get what he want always .
The other thing of course from the staff's point of view is trading is the thin end of the wedge, trading brings with it scamming and of course invite selling and hit and run tactics. Now I know that you will say that not all traders do this and I agree, not all do but account trading is what makes all this far more possible and easy since the account is now anonymous the person who has it really has no obligation to look after the account, internet anonymity breeds bad behavior so the anonymity of a traded account brings about the probability of the scamming/cheating/invite selling, without the account trades these other things would be far harder to carry out.
Providing a venue for trackers rule breakers is not a good idea and this is what this forum is. You can't educate and allow the activities at the same time.Quote:
Originally Posted by supperBAN is not the solution always they have to decide by thier selves what they relly need or what the wrong or the right rules never change the attitudes or the toughts..Quote:
Originally Posted by TP635
but u still can educate them and clear ur points about how is the trade is relly bad and let the staffer do more giveaways to let the traders think the trade is not the only way to get what he want always .
i meant give them the options to decide by themselves the trade is the wrong thing to do but if u will say DONT then they do it in any wayQuote:
Originally Posted by TP635Providing a venue for trackers rule breakers is not a good idea and this is what this forum is. You can't educate and allow the activities at the same time.Quote:
Originally Posted by supper
and if the traders havent respact any tracker rules about trading why they will respact the fst rules about tradeing !
if the tracker rules it selves stoped any trader from tradeing then fst rules will do.
@Artemis thank you for clearing and u are relly helpful and respectful member here too:) even if we have adiffrent point of view.
We'll have to wait and see what crackpot scheme they come up with I guess. :whistling:
SHUVT, and alot of the other DP folks are by far some of the best people out there, like Melvin, Ibslice, etc. lotta cool cats that you've disabled, or disabled the access to certain forums of.
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Originally Posted by benchez