yeah mod detale see when some one has no use of his acc and is wastin it rather he could trade it for some thin he thinks is useful isn't it
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yeah mod detale see when some one has no use of his acc and is wastin it rather he could trade it for some thin he thinks is useful isn't it
think of it this way, probably not the best analogy but im tired.
You go to a pub with a mate, you buy him a drink, he then turns around and gives that drink to a complete stranger, and goes and gets himself a better drink.
im sure you would think, wtf was going on lol
Tracker staff and your inviter want YOU as a member, not some tom dick or harry you have found elsewhere on the net.
If you dont want your account, delete it or just let it die and get pruned.
I just want to chime in again. There's a lot of talk about this not stopping account trading they'll just go somewhere else. Well as I see it this isn't about somewhere else this is about FST so lets focus on that. The only reason I give a rats about this poll is that I want to see FST improve. I don't like the fact that many in the BT community have a low opinion of FST.
Saying oh well we shouldn't ban it because it will still happen is silly. Nothing will ever get done if everyone says oh well we're going to sit on our hands because the other guy is. Lets focus on FST and let RealPoor and ZP and even worse places worry about what they're doing.
Also for people saying you should ban all trading or allow all trading. Come on life is about compromise. Sure in an ideal world I'd like to see trading vanish, but it aint going to happen. Trading is here to stay and that's it. FST is never ever going to ban trading all together. So what can we do once that point is accepted? We can try to find some middle ground with staff and the BT community. That way the positives of this forum have a chance to shine without all the hate and pettiness.
By ending account trading it shows goodwill on the part of FST and it's members to torrenters everywhere. No one seriously expects it to end completely. Sure it may be done in PM's or whatever but at least FST isn't helping it by allowing it to flourish. I know that BT staff and many disillusioned members would see it as a huge step forward.
No,invite was give to that user and that user alone
I hate trading cos i lost my 1st private account that way.... but on FST ...even when you make a request ..the only replies i get are "wats your offer?"
So theres no choice but to become a trader
I salute you for taking this step, maybe i was wrong when i said all FST staffers support trading.Quote:
Originally Posted by Detale
+1 respect
and no account trading should not be allowed well that is the first step to make this a better place but i doubt this will happen anytime soon.
we always have a choiceQuote:
Originally Posted by abe171
Wow, I just spent about 50 minutes reading through this topic. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion but if you look at it this way maybe it will make more sense. This shouldn't be an argument between tracker staff and BT users. We are all part of the same community. Believe it or not tracker staff are just looking out for our best interest. They arent these nazi's on a rampage just trying to enforce rule after rule on a power strike.
Account trading hurts the tracker, which pisses the staff off, and eventually the user's feel the effects. Basically it hurts everyone in the Bittorrent world. If people could just be patient and not demand they get into every tracker withing a month of signing up here then there wouldnt be a problem
Another point is this, why would want to trade for an account to a place where people like you (who trade accounts) arent welcome? All the top sites people seek are mostly community based. If people really want in for the "community" as they put it then they would respect the communities wishes and not trade accounts.
Maybe a lot of people have trouble with the idea of respect. If you give respect you will recieve it. Alot of these staffers even went as far to look past invite trading (a lesser of two evils) so you traders can do what you want and not face consequence. For the most part they held up their side of the bargain so the least we can do is show them back come mutual respect and not trade accounts. I dont mean not trade because there is a rule not to trade accounts, but out of respect for our BT community.
It boils down to this? Are we here solely for our own best interests, or the best interest of the BT community as a whole? I suggest a lot of you really consider choosing the latter because if not your own selfish ideals will umtimately lead to everyone's downfall. In the end those trackers you so desperately sought out might not even exist anymore. Do you really want that on your shoulders?
Just my 2 cents
Jon
+1000 :)Quote:
I can't see why not, if invite trading is allowed acc trading should be to.
Some member's were told they can trade certain invites or whatever, those that did not- even though there were offer's in the bt section that maybe w- be a so called good trades but those of us that did not should get credit for that and as Sear said," it makes fst more respected"-trusted for real mod's or admin's offering a invitation to the right member once in a while? Who knows. I would rather have track admin's look good on fst...
they are completely different.Quote:
Originally Posted by GhostRetired19
You trade an invite, you have to be good on their tracker, they have to be good on your tracker, if not you could both get punished, but the chances are, both will be good (or hopefully they will anyway)
you also both start off with clean accounts, 0 ratio and 0 torrents.
Now trading accounts, and i can only speak for us, but im sure it implies on other trackers as well.
lets say you do sneak past the email change, the passkey change and everything else and you dont get scammed.
The trader might have a 1TB buffer, but if he has Hit and Runs and your a Kitty Litter class, then you have to redownload all his hit and runs and seed them back.
to me trading an account is a lot worse than an invite, and a lot more riskier for the traders concerned.
so FST is providing my info to others? Or did I read that wrong?Quote:
Originally Posted by Brandon
you read it wrong.
But if 1 tracker bans a trader, they pass the info onto other trackers, who then ban you as well.
thats what Brandon is trying to say, or at least, i have never received any inside info from the FST staff.
according to the poll 50% want to trade
Maybe FST should like make a divide
one section only for traders ... and another for the rest.... cos some ppl get pissed off when they know your a trader .... they hate traders..... but the fact is if u want to get into higher level trackers .... u need to trade ..... u cant simply jus make request .... "i want to get into Ftn " ....
surely if your making a request on FST your already a member of FST lol
but on a serious note, who told you, you "have" to trade.
you probably have more chance getting into FTN FSC SCT etc etc etc if you dont trade. it may take awhile but why be impatient and greedy.
you couldn't be more wrong on both of your points. Trading makes it harder to get into your so called high level trackers. Also how is making a traders only section going to help anything. It's still FST.Quote:
Originally Posted by abe171
Yes. I only got into FSC for being recognized as a good member here. Same with FTN and iTS. So don't say trading accounts is the only solution, that sounds so fabricated. Which it is by the way.
are u member on either FTN FSC SCT?Quote:
Originally Posted by stoi
so how did u get in? By making a request
No im not a member of those sites, actually i am only a member of BCG but thats because im the owner of BCG.
But trust me, if you trade and are seen as a trader you have less chance of getting into those sites than if you never traded.
how did u get into the higher level trackers? by making requests?Quote:
Originally Posted by searyou couldn't be more wrong on both of your points. Trading makes it harder to get into your so called high level trackers. Also how is making a traders only section going to help anything. It's still FST.Quote:
Originally Posted by abe171
Probably by making friends. There are a lot of people on trackers and forums who, if you make a good impression as a member will help you to reach any other site you may require.
Requesting one on a public forum is not the best way either.
Network with people, help at trackers and forums, be interested in more than getting invites. :smilie4:
benchez has it 100% right. By making friends. For some sites I guess I did "request them" but that was in private to my mates. For others friends just asked if I would like to join. TBH it gets to the point where you turn down invites because you just have no use for them.Quote:
Originally Posted by abe171how did u get into the higher level trackers? by making requests?Quote:
Originally Posted by sear
The best way to go is to just be a helpful and good member. If you do that here and on the trackers you are already at people will recognise that you're a good member and doors will open for you. There's no need to trade. Just be yourself and have a laugh with some folks and you'll find there's no tracker you can't get in if that is your wish :yup:
where is the freedom of speech :cry:Quote:
Originally Posted by benchez
ONLY coz account tradeing is useless most of the elite trackers can figure out if any account on thier tracker have been traded or not so u will losse any thing u will offer to get an account in return useless relly tested;)
and i hope we will not see (Should invites trades be allowed here) pool in the future
Well some could see it as wasting it but if you delete the acct then that opens up a slot for others to join in their rightful place not taking some used acct. I myself never saw the appeal to someone elses name on your acct. My name on most trackers is pariah and I am proud of that fact I have a good name, no cheating no scamming good ratios etc.Very selfish to get and acct just to leech all you can. I am proud of my ratios on those "harder to seed" sites. The acct was given to you as a user a better description than I could ever give is easily put by one of FST's and BCG's finest Stoi:Quote:
Originally Posted by singing_sol
Awesome explination simple and exact, Thanks StoiQuote:
Originally Posted by stoi
Well I never saw where you said all fst staff support trading, look it at like this Weather or not I personally support trading or not, I will ALWAYS Support FST and her members I do most of my downloading now through News Groups so trackers cannot threaten me with a ban or anything like that. I started this poll simply to get my finger on the current pulse of what our members wanted and just as before it is split basically down the middle. Whatever my or any other member of staff here hold in their personal feelings we all keep to the rules of FST as a whole and will remain undivided. So don't go gettin all mushy on me just yet, but I appreciate it anyway. I thought of a funny thing just now and I hope it hasn't been said before....Quote:
Originally Posted by pawned
They can take away our invites, but they can never take our freedom!!!
Indeed we ALWAYS do have a choice even if it seems like we dont.Quote:
Originally Posted by squirr3lwe always have a choiceQuote:
Originally Posted by abe171
Hey B whats up been a while. Well I don't think the enemies of FST keep any of us up late at night. As long as I'v been here FST has had so called enemies and guess what FST and our members are still here. Enemies is a strong word we have trackers that do not exactly love what we do here but I have an open line of communication with most all of them and even the crazy ones ( you know who you are) are still pretty cool people.Quote:
Originally Posted by puckfaceso FST is providing my info to others? Or did I read that wrong?Quote:
Originally Posted by Brandon
Now lets get something straight FST does not provide our members info to anyone even when asked nicely or threatened. The only case I ever even heard of was when someone was caught selling invites and I dont even know if thats true or not its just what I had heard.
I got every single one of my high level trackers through friends, shit even that homo Sear ( a good friend of mine) got me into a pretty exclusive place.Quote:
Originally Posted by abe171how did u get into the higher level trackers? by making requests?Quote:
Originally Posted by sear
First of all, change your attitude on levels. Rarity level doesn't make a good tracker. It all depends on what you are after. If you don't like community, don't go for "High Level", you won't be happy when you get there.Quote:
Originally Posted by abe171how did u get into the higher level trackers? by making requests?Quote:
Originally Posted by sear
Like Benches said, social networking gets you far. Make friends. Don't whine about not be able to get into some tracker.
Be a good user on any tracker you are on. That way people can see that you won't jeopardize their account if they invite you somewhere.
Partake in discussions even though they won't land you an invite anywhere. There doesn't need to be a hidden agenda.
Be helpful to people that need help on some matter. It makes a good impression that you go out of your way to help others.
Do all of this on a regular basis. It doesn't need much effort and it's fulfilling in itself.
banned acct trades fst
I vote No, account trading sucks need to be stoped
i think acct trades should not be allowed if and only if ALL the community reps wouldnt mind invite trading....since MOST of the community reps think account trading is as good as invite trading then y account trades shouldnt be allowed....
if there can be a mutual respect between community reps and traders then may be there can be a solution to the so called problem called trading....what most of the community reps dont understand is some users mostly traders chose to trade because they dont want to wait for someone to approve of what they are worthy and what they are not-worthy ofit just would simply imply that you are accepting that your inviter is a better man then you are (the invitee),well not exactly but its a lot complicated then that..not that i have never got a free invite ,its not the same everytime some one gets a free invite....but definatly with higher levels come longer foreplay....
if someone can get an account for free rather then giving back something in return anyone would surely accept the free invite but with free invite comes the feeling of being obligated to the inviter,being greatfull,thankfull,listen to all the crap no matter how boring the inviter is,being friends with the inviter even thou you may not like him ...most importantly trying to please the inviter inturn making a fool of one's self most of the times. its one of those things which is very hard to be put in words. and it is a matter of choice i chose to be a (pro) trader and when some one doesnt accept me and respect me for the way i am then i rebel,and stop reading/following rules which doesnt make sense to me and are mostly.when some one makes a rule there are always some people who follow the rule and who dont follow the rule,banning those who dont follow the rules or giving out their ip will not making things any better ,if traders are dealt the same way invite seller and cheaters are dealt with then its probably time to reconsider they way you think or live with fact that trading is something which cant be stopped ,oh you have tried to stop it but you just cant because its not just me who think these rules dont make sense, traders have been here before me.lets not pretend to be blind shall we.
Somewhere near the kingdom of joke. :mellow:Quote:
Originally Posted by supperwhere is the freedom of speech :cry:Quote:
Originally Posted by benchez
oh great to hear its still there:w00t:Quote:
Originally Posted by benchezSomewhere near the kingdom of joke. :mellow:Quote:
Originally Posted by supper
Thanks for one last good laugh before I'm of to sleep :lol:Quote:
Originally Posted by supperoh great to hear its still there:w00t:Quote:
Originally Posted by benchez
The above post is exactly the way to be invited to sites, network get to know people and then they will appreciate you and staff will notice you, the invites will come themselves from people who believe you would be a good member and an asset to the community.Quote:
Originally Posted by searbenchez has it 100% right. By making friends. For some sites I guess I did "request them" but that was in private to my mates. For others friends just asked if I would like to join. TBH it gets to the point where you turn down invites because you just have no use for them.Quote:
Originally Posted by abe171
The best way to go is to just be a helpful and good member. If you do that here and on the trackers you are already at people will recognise that you're a good member and doors will open for you. There's no need to trade. Just be yourself and have a laugh with some folks and you'll find there's no tracker you can't get in if that is your wish :yup:
Another truth at the base of this too is you can then feel pride and be a part of the community and post instead of skulking and leaving hoping the mods didn't notice you log on,yet to be offered an invite because someone thinks you would be a good user and an asset to the tracker, or to have a member of staff contact you and say you are a helpful member I think you would be great on my tracker would you like an invite gives you pride in the community.
This is though for the more patient and community minded of us I suppose, sad but most simply want it RIGHT NOW. In the end though I feel no need to skulk staff know me I can joke and pm them and chat, can the a/c traders ?
You all know that a/c trading hurts the community, and if you don't your blind to the reality, once someone has an a/c that is anonymous they can do what they will with it without fear of consequence, in the end it has nothing to do with them personally so why should they care for it, a/c trading breeds cheating, hit & running and invite selling, by trading a/c's you are allowing and helping these practices to flourish.
Why, is everything censored on ITS?Quote:
Originally Posted by benchezSomewhere near the kingdom of joke. :mellow:Quote:
Originally Posted by supper
/fixed :shifty:Quote:
Originally Posted by Detale
Hey bud o/Quote:
Originally Posted by Detale
Hey B whats up been a while. Well I don't think the enemies of FST keep any of us up late at night. As long as I'v been here FST has had so called enemies and guess what FST and our members are still here. Enemies is a strong word we have trackers that do not exactly love what we do here but I have an open line of communication with most all of them and even the crazy ones ( you know who you are) are still pretty cool people.Quote:
Originally Posted by puckfaceso FST is providing my info to others? Or did I read that wrong?Quote:
Originally Posted by Brandon
Now lets get something straight FST does not provide our members info to anyone even when asked nicely or threatened. The only case I ever even heard of was when someone was caught selling invites and I dont even know if thats true or not its just what I had heard.
I agree for the most part, I'm just a bit shocked at how many diff sites are getting in on this whole info trading deal. I'm sure it's not all related souly to FST, but a few of them I talked to were saying that it was so who knows.
And yes, just to verify with Detale, I get no info from staff here.
LOL :PQuote:
Originally Posted by ITS/fixed :shifty:Quote:
Originally Posted by Detale
Yes, accounts trading should be allowed
I disagree, it's like trading your ID for another person's ID, how immature and irresponsible is that? :dry:Quote:
Originally Posted by vaidyanath
NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO
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I don't see anything wrong in this. It's on people if they like to trade, nobody is forcing. However i don't like fresh account trades.