Isn't my first pic what you wanted?? :huh:
http://img222.imageshack.us/img222/5748/fullqb5.jpg
The green represents the hose
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Isn't my first pic what you wanted?? :huh:
http://img222.imageshack.us/img222/5748/fullqb5.jpg
The green represents the hose
No.
I'd like a straight shot of the side, no reservoir, no paint lines.
Please.
No.
I'd like a straight shot of the side, no reservoir, no paint lines.
Please.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v78/clocker/Ds1.jpg
OK.
The rez sits vertically (like it's bloody supposed to!) next to the motherboard.
The pump sits directly below so it has unimpeded flow from the reservoir.
From the pump down to the rad (lower fitting), then up to the southbridge.
You can see the rest of the pattern- follow the arrows.
You really want the water path to flow from lowest to highest (or sideways if necessary) or you'll have a hell of a time getting the air out.
You can also see where 90° fittings would come in very handy.
that looks good clocker, it looks more like a proper loop.
It would be even better if the reservoir and pump were hung off the back like the Stacker's loop.
Sure but I see this layout everywhere I want to try something new. I know it will be hard but not impossible to get the air out of her.
BTW the Bitspower fittings were recalled because they in fact leak :O so I cannot even use the ones I have :( I have contacted Bitspower directly as per PPCS they said BP would replace my fittings with leakless ones. Hope this works out.
Too bad about the Bitpowers.Quote:
Originally Posted by Detale
Why do they leak and what has been changed?
Because they are incapable of retaining water.Quote:
Originally Posted by clocker
The leaking bits.Quote:
Originally Posted by clocker
People today seem incapable of grasping the basics. :rolleyes:
And yes, it was a good night down at the pub. Thanks for asking.
I've been served.
All they said was that a percentage of them did leak and that BP would replace them for me. I haven't gotten word from BP as of yet. Should i wait or go with different fittings??
Ask lynx, he's on a roll.
LOL not a roll really more of a bender
Do you have any idea it will take to get the replacements and what other fitting options do you have?
PPCs said it would be a few weeks but Im dealing with BP now. Not many other options other than plastic ones and a few "crystal" but I dont like the look of em
http://www.performance-pcs.com/catal...P-LB-CL_01.jpg
plastic looks kind of cheap too
http://www.performance-pcs.com/catal...lbow_t_LRG.jpg
Oh wait I just saw Koolance has some 45 fittings but from what Iv'e read Koolence doesn't make the best quality stuff
Koolance Fitting Single, Swiveling 45-Degree
http://www.performance-pcs.com/catal...nzl-dxg_01.jpg
http://www.performance-pcs.com/catal...l-l10kg_01.jpg
Koolance used to be reviled because they used a lot of aluminum (aluminum + copper + warm flowing water= galvanic corrosion) but my understanding is that all their newer stuff is nickel plated brass, which is just fine.
Don't know how the flow rates compare though.
well that's all gay then as if it's put a halt to it! Did they say that they leak straight away or that it's a gradual process and they eventually start leaking? cos i think you should just test them regardless, they might be fine.
@Clocker How would I check something like flow rates??
@AD
They haven't given me any specifics at all. Im waiting to see what BP will say. Sure they may be fine but: a) It will drive me insane checking the rig every 30 seconds forever wondering if today will be the day they leak, Im nuts like that. or b) they could leak when I turn my back on them ruining my rig, neither of these options are acceptable to me one bit, so we are at a standstill until I hear more from them :( sorry man
There may be info on flowrates for different fittings over at Xtreme.
Ah OK will take a look Thanks again homie.
Yo, bro.
ah well fella, hope it all gets sorted out keep on at them like cos i would'nt tolerate it.
I completely understand.Quote:
Originally Posted by Detale
I was involved in beta testing a GPU block a few years ago from a startup company.
Several of the early designs leaked, including mine (fortunately the card survived).
I got a revised version and it tested OK, cooling was good, so I started to run it full time but the nagging fear of a leak never went away.
I held out for about a month then pulled it.
It was just too worrisome.
My experience has been that if the loop is going to leak, it leaks right away.
I've never had a block leak (except the aforementioned Neptune), it's always been a bad tube/fitting issue which shows up as soon as water is introduced.
One reason I favor the "inverted ATX" layout is that even if there is a fitting leak, chances are excellent that the water won't hit anything important.
With the standard layout, the vid card is almost certain to catch the drip.
Detale is going to need a lot of 90° fittings, so waiting to get the improved version is probably the smartest move.
cool, can't wait for this to be all completed like. I might even get mine up and running before yours manages to get finished with the way the company is treating you detale. Hope they are giving you some form of compesation for it.
They're going to replace the defective parts...what else would you have them do?
well the fact is that they there was retail in call and they still sent the parts out, they should at least rush the parts out to him.
I did think of that with the inverted AXT but I messed up and got the window on the wrong side:frusty: . I cant wait to get an answer from them I might even ask if PPCs could exchange the fittings for the coolance ones but I cant find any flowrate info what so ever :(
having the board inverted is a good idea, wish i could do it. ah well i dont thik you'll get anything else till tomorrow like whether it be equipment or info.
WOW I had a whole long post here and the board farted and I lost it, damn that sux :(
OK so take 2:
Call me a moron but I couldn't wait anymore and decided to say fuck it and loop this damn thing already. I didn't power up my MoBo instead I used the innards of an external HDD enclosure I had laying around to power just the pump and the rad fans. Also I hooked up the drain port but decided not to drill anymore holes and Ill just leave the thing inside and when I need it Ill pull it out so i can point it into a receptacle. I did hang the pump like clocker suggested and I think its a great idea no noise whatsoever :)
I did it looked good I checked my fittings and everything so I am filling her up for a good 20 seconds and all of a sudden I see a puddle running from under my case off the desk and onto the floor obviously I am upset I cant seem to find where its coming from suddenly I see that I forgot to connect one of the hoses to my rad WHAT A DICK!! I yell over and over.
So I hook up the last hose and clean up the mess check again ok looks good. I continue filling it up and the water stops going down my fillport and stays in the funnel because the air cannot escape ( Insert clocker I told you so here) so I sit and stare at it for 10 min while I have a cigarett and figure what to do next.
I disconnected the hose going to the CPU since thats the highest point on my loop and the water goes down because the air can escape HA! still there is too much air in there so I jam the leftover hose I have into the funnel sealing it in there and I blow into it forcing the air out and down into the res ( uhhh I guess I blew my computer) it worked!!! I then add my purple UV dye and am all set to go.
I hooked it up to the external HDD enclosure parts so that if it does leak there would be no real damage to the mobo and the video card (I think right?)also it has a switch so in case of an emergency I could switch the pump off. I cover the vid card with a plastic bag so if it does drip it will roll of the bag and out of the case onto a waiting rag I had set up.
Ok so here goes I switch it on and it works DAMNIT IT WORKS!!! There was a small drip from the barb on the pump but thats my fault becasue I didn't tighten it enough so I tightened it and all was well again. I watch it run for about 10 min nervously and the wife calls on my cell and says we need to go food shopping, I tell her I cant leave we argue, so I have to leave for about 3 hours ( yeah Im a wuss) I figure leave it running and go balls in. If its going to leak it will do so no matter what. 3 hours later I get home and NO LEAKS!! :woot:
It's working really well I think. There is one thing the dye color is a bit uneven in the different hoses but I think that will work itself out right? Also the remaining air bubble in the res acts funny. when the pump is off it sits as it should leveling itself off at the top. When the pump is on it slides to the intake side of the res not in the direction of the water flow??:huh: odd but I think there is some whirlpool action going on in there. This even happens whe I tilt it to a steeper incline. It is on a slight unnoticeable one now so Im not too concerned I will just have to see what happens. The horizontal res is working even better that I expected the air that was in there goes out just as I predicted :P So well infact I made a short video and uploaded it for you guys to see
Notice the air bubble and tell me what you guys think
[youtube]PS2--4gEsDM[/youtube]
Here are some still pics also
http://img300.imageshack.us/img300/5862/dsc00556dl1.jpg
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http://img301.imageshack.us/img301/1141/dsc00578lv9.jpg
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http://img204.imageshack.us/img204/2662/dsc00584nf3.jpg
Now I am not done yet I need to do some lighting and stuff but Im almost there. Thanks guys for all the help and let me know what you think??
The bubble goes there cos of the power of the pump, the water is pushing it. But everything looks good fella you should be proud of it:)
I would like to see what temps you get but thy wont be reliable for another 200 hours:s
Congratulations D.
So, how much noise does this system make?
Can you hear the water flowing or the pump pumping?
Now to fire her up and see what the temps are.
@Acid...I have yet to see temps change much- if at all- after the magic 200 hour, thermal paste "settling in" period.
Congratulations D.
So, how much noise does this system make?
Can you hear the water flowing or the pump pumping?
Now to fire her up and see what the temps are.
@Acid...I have yet to see temps change much- if at all- after the magic 200 hour, thermal paste "settling in" period.
lol do you think it doesn't exsist like? i am sceptical aswell, but i do understand how it does need to 'settle in' maybe not 200 hours though.
I don't know whether it happens or not.
The problem is that your temps are directly tied to room ambient...unless you have very good climate control, how likely is it that your room is exactly the same temperature over the course of the 200 hours (however long it takes to rack up that amount of run time)?
Thanks man I cant hear a damn thing. If I listen real close I can her the water woosh a little bit. I can feel the pump vibrate but not hear it at all. I barely hear the S-flex fans I getting my hands on some 92mm San Ace fans as well soon. Im sure I will hear a bit more when the other six fans are turned on 2 top 120mm 2 front 120mm and 2 rear 92 MM I may not use them all but def the front fans as they cool the HDD's and the I would need exaust fans too right? Going down in a few to see what I can finish up tonight, pics later
cool, least you've managed to get it all working and nothing has messed up:) So what were the first temps you got?
Damn I been so busy with work and I haven't even hooked up the front panel heaers and I have to wait for my new SATA cables to come. I am going to try and go down there tonight for a bit
D., what are the plugs in those fillports made of?
The Danger Den fillports used steel plugs and they rusted in short order.
I switched to some all Delrin units which weren't as nice looking but wouldn't rust...and then I ditched fillports altogether.
Well although the fillports themselves are mad of aluminum the cap material isn't specified, all it says is that they are cadnium coated. I had read of something like this so I got some acrylic ones. I forgot to put it in the drain port so I guess I have to wait and see.