Sprocket Resurfaces...

Those have that real wide mount and pivot, I think; just guessing, a length of round stock to spear them both would probably be a good start.

Have you loaded Win7 64 yet?

I got shut out on the Microsoft offering - I think I was a bit late; server overloaded, then they just seemed to shut it down.

I do have the torrent version, though, and I'll probably go with that - just waiting for a few other things to finish.

I'm gonna guess, too, that it'll take/use most of the appropriate Vista 64 drivers/progs?

Oh yeah baby, been on x64 for a few days now. I do have both versions- official MS and leaked torrent- of both 32 and 64 .ISOs...will probably reinstall using the MS version tomorrow, just to see if anything changed.

You won't need many drivers- Win 7 installed on my RAID array and discovered almost all my hardware without intervention.
Probably just the Intel .inf and maybe the sound.
Vista drivers work fine.

Excellent.

Waiting for the MS DL to start ATM.

During this lull in actual construction- not really much to do ATM- I've been playing with the config of the dual monitors.

First thing I did was relocate the Win7 taskbar to the left side of the screen, which freed up a bit of space for forum viewing.
Then I noticed that most of the fori that I frequent had all sorts of deadspace on the sides and thought of repositioning my main display in portrait mode to kill the lost space and maximize the useable area.

Unfortunately, these IBM monitors don't rotate but since they use a standard VESA mount- which is thankfully symmetrical- I was able to simply unbolt the display from the stand and reinstall in the desired mode.
This more or less killed the nice even layout of the desk but seems to make for a much more productive workspace.

Here is one of my patented dark and blurry pics of the layout now...
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v78/clocker/2Mon1.jpg

And here is a screen grab of FST as displayed on both monitors.
Note the diffence in the number of threads displayed between the two positions...
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v78/clocker/2Mon.png

I just did this yesterday and am still coming to grips with it but I think I'll end up liking this layout a lot.

That is all.

Hmmm.

I kinda like that.

Might have to buy another monitor.

Hey, why don't you put the other one in portrait mode, too?

You'll get your symmetry back, and you might like that.

Just a thought.

Yhe normal one-landscape mode- is good for watching movies.
And stuff.

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Oh yeah baby, been on x64 for a few days now. I do have both versions- official MS and leaked torrent- of both 32 and 64 .ISOs...will probably reinstall using the MS version tomorrow, just to see if anything changed.

You won't need many drivers- Win 7 installed on my RAID array and discovered almost all my hardware without intervention.
Probably just the Intel .inf and maybe the sound.
Vista drivers work fine.

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Haven't been in here in a few days. Looks odd Clocker, I don't know if I could get used to it though. Have you tried the extended mode at all?

Oh I did have to install the raid drivers on mine dunno why :( no biggie I was prepared for it this time

I needed to install the drivers again to get the Matrix storage console but W7 saw the array (therefore, had the basic driver) without help from me.

Hmmm. For me it didn't see the array at all until I installed them form a USB stick. I was using the 32 bit "acquired" version, I plan on reinstalling the 64 genuine version soon, Ive just been sick and lazy lately

I know it worked for J2 without drivers also...your version may have been doctored or something.

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I know it worked for J2 without drivers also...your version may have been doctored or something.

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It worked, but I gave up on Win7 for now; too much fiddling around getting things to work.

Basic setup worked nicely, though; I got to do a performance index - all 7.2 or higher, with a 7.9 gaming graphics score for my lowly, untweaked 9600GT (!) - but with the 3.0 HDD score DeTale had...I tried your policy alteration, but to no avail.

Anyway, I'm back on Prophesy for the nonce.

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It worked, but I gave up on Win7 for now; too much fiddling around getting things to work.


Anyway, I'm back on Prophesy for the nonce.

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Weenie.

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It worked, but I gave up on Win7 for now; too much fiddling around getting things to work.


Anyway, I'm back on Prophesy for the nonce.

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Weenie.

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Admittedly.

Just for the record- what required "too much fiddling around" to deal with?

After a bit of tweaking...
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v7...er/bones26.jpg

Tee hee.

Have also run a bunch of "Experience Index" tests at various speeds.
Apparently, a dual core will not breach the 7.1 barrier for CPU no matter what as it remains the same from 4.0 to 4.5GHz.
With my limited understanding of BIOS settings on this P45 board, I've been unable to boot any higher than 4.5GHz (500 x 9) although I was able to achieve this at only 1.275v (which droops to 1.2375v when in Windows).

I'm sure that with some study I could do better although my motivation is weak since I saw the upcoming Intel price drops and have started lusting after a (relatively) cheap q9550- supposedly around $250-275 street price.
Going to see about lining up a buyer for this excellent e8400 and find out where I can go...

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I know it worked for J2 without drivers also...your version may have been doctored or something.

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It may have been but I don't think it was. Im using J2 also and I had to install the drivers in windows after as well. I think something fishy is going on here as well. Getting weird reboots again when I OC.

The q9550 is only $282 now, is the $50 the deal breaker for you or do you just feel like moving on? With the bios settings I am mostly lost other than turning off EIST and the other thermal management options. I still have no clue what to disable or enable :huh:

You're a bad man, man.

As to Win7:

I didn't do myself any favors by starting the install at night, but after a "fits-and-starts" install (not too off-putting) I tried to load mobo drivers and it would hang; tried again, it hung again - then a re-boot showed the install seemed to be proceeding, but the screen image had stalled.

Just to satisfy my curiosity, I restarted the whole shebang, this time the OS install went a bit better, but the mobo driver install hung again; this time I plowed ahead by cycling the drive tray, which gave me the screen back, apparently picking up the install at step 4 (I can't remember what it was; maybe the onboard HD audio?), and it finished, though somewhat haltingly.

I let it auto-update, then tried to install the COMODO internet suite; the install hung, so I backed out of that and installed Avira AV, which went over cleanly, and looked around for a firewall I liked but couldn't decide which to go with - at this point I did the perf-index while I was kicking things around - scores were pleasing, but I ran into the HDD thing, which I've already recounted.

Next came the straight-from-Nvidia Win7 drivers (should work great, right?); that hung, and then, trying to get moving again, the mouse and keyboard hard-locked.

I forced a shut-down and brought it back up only to have it continue to hang.

The next day I tried the whole thing again with the torrent version, but much the same hanging problems.

Fatigue set in, and I decided to retreat to Prophesy.

Given that we share almost identical hardware, I can only assume a PEBKAC issue.

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Yes; while the hardware is similar, the rest is most assuredly not.

I am being punished for a certain ideological insufficiency, I think.

Barry has found me out.

Silicon for Obama!

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Given that we share almost identical hardware, I can only assume a PEBKAC issue.

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Yes; while the hardware is similar, the rest is most assuredly not.

I am being punished for a certain ideological insufficiency, I think.

Barry has found me out.

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:lol::lol::lol::lol:

I didn't vote for him and mine is working fantastically, should I worry :ermm:

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Yes; while the hardware is similar, the rest is most assuredly not.

I am being punished for a certain ideological insufficiency, I think.

Barry has found me out.

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:lol::lol::lol::lol:

I didn't vote for him and mine is working fantastically, should I worry :ermm:

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I was too vocal in opposition, obviousment.

You were properly reticent, hence your success.

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:lol::lol::lol::lol:

I didn't vote for him and mine is working fantastically, should I worry :ermm:

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I was too vocal in opposition, obviousment.

You were properly reticent, hence your success.

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I can't believe I didn't say this before. The "Man" is oppressing your rig....Man

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I was too vocal in opposition, obviousment.

You were properly reticent, hence your success.

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I can't believe I didn't say this before. The "Man" is oppressing your rig....Man

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I'm not used to being oppressed.

Of course, I reject white guilt as well, so I suppose it's my lot for the duration of the Obama administration.

Oh, well.

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Of course, I reject white guilt as well, so I suppose it's my lot for the duration of the Obama administration.

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Oh please.

I'm sure that Obama will be happy to forgo your suffering over white guilt in exchange for renouncing Republicanism.
You know you wanna.

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Of course, I reject white guilt as well, so I suppose it's my lot for the duration of the Obama administration.

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Oh please.

I'm sure that Obama will be happy to forgo your suffering over white guilt in exchange for renouncing Republicanism.
You know you wanna.

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Obama can forego my suffering?

Hmmm.

That's going a step further than Clinton's "I feel your pain"...downright messianic, actually.

Messianic, indeed.
We should be used to that by now...wasn't Bush getting all his support direct from above?

Anyway, we digress.

New section-Politacal HardWare

Mea culpa, mea culpa, mea maximum culpa.

Please, no.

On a sidenote:
Got a line on a cheap (well, relatively cheap...$200) q9550.
Gotta love early i7 adopters.
Should have it in my hot, sweaty palm on Tuesday.

New chip- q9550- installed.
Seems OK so far...
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v7...er/9550ie2.png

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v7.../9550pcps1.png

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v7...ker/9550sp.png

Damn!! Where did you see it for that price man? I think th ewin assesment with that CPU at that speed should be higher that 7.5 no? Also how the HELL do you get your HDD at 182Mb/sec

Craigslist.
Yeah, I was surprised as well...I just checked on a whim and hark!, there it was.

He was a very nice, bright guy...ended up tossing 2 x 2GB sticks of g.Skill DDR2 into the deal.

I was surprised to get as high as a 7.5 frankly.
MS didn't leave much room for the i7 performance superiority in the CPU test.

About the HDD score.
It's actually low compared to HDTach.
In HDTach I get an average read of near 250MB/s.

That's 3 x 250GB drives in RAID0.

Still struggling with the setup.
Looks like I'm going to finally come to grips with the BIOS settings...
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v7...ker/q95593.png

This setup seems to pretty stable, anything beyond and things fall apart pretty quickly.
All indications point to increased northbridge voltage (which might be eased if I removed 2 sticks of RAM but I'd prefer to run fully populated as long as possible) but since I went water and lost the airflow from the CPU heatsink, the northbridge gets rather toasty at stock voltage.
Gigabyte uses a weird 65mm hole spacing for the NB, so no generic chipset blocks will fit.
Probably have to make my own mounting plate to get around this issue.

My luck with Intel temp sensors continues to suck...two of the four are non-responsive at low temps, the other two have relatively low movement.
I've pretty much been reduced to watching my vid card temps to track overall loop performance.
Fortunately, all seems well- no giant spikes in temp- and I have a ton of cooling headroom, so I'm not very concerned.

3.5 still isn't a bad oc man. personally I think you may be spoiled :P Maybe because I have 2 750gb Hdd's they are slower? Was the chip new or used? Looking good as usual bro.

3.5GHz ain't bad for a start but there's a lot more left...she hit the 500FSB on the first try.
The problem of course, is my bullheaded insistence on running all four DIMM slots.
Four memory modules and four cores really puts the wood to the northbridge and that's where I'm going to be concentrating next.

RAID 0 scales linearly with the number of drives.
More drives= higher read/writes/burst...it's just that simple.

The chip was used, for a total of three months- I saw his sales receipt from Tank Guys.

Shit that aint bad at all man. Quit being so stubborn and pop two of them sticks outta there man. or why not WC the northbridge? the EK5 fits I think it looks about the same as my other GB board

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why not WC the northbridge? the EK5 fits I think it looks about the same as my other GB board

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No, the EK5 won't fit...at least not unmodified.
The hole spacing in the board is 64mm, which is a non-standard distance.

I'm going to pick up a Swiftech MCW30 and make some brackets to adapt to the board.

As far as the RAM goes...
Ever since the days of s939 it has bugged me that 4 sticks of memory cause the board to flake out.
Especially since I was buying (then) top of the line DFI boards, it seemed like for the money, I should get the functionality.

This relative cheap Gigabyte board looks like it can do it if I spend the time to figure it out.
If I can't, well, we'll cross that bridge when it falls on us.

Sounds good man. Make sure you charge your camera battery ;)

OK, here we go.

First off, here's the stock heatsink setup...
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v7.../stocksink.jpg

The northbridge and the mosfet sink are tied together with a heatpipe.
A very loose and poorly clamped heatpipe as it turns out...all it took was a gentle twist and the pipe easily parted company with the sink and the two were again separate.
As impressive as the stock setup looked, I have to wonder how effective the heatpipe could have been. It was so loose that contact had to be crummy.
Oh well, all gone now.
While I had the board out I decided to upgrade the southbridge sink as well- I have several Zalman passive sinks and one of them was already cut for vid card clearance, so what the hey?, says I, and on it went...
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v7...zalmansout.jpg

I also hardmounted the mosfet sink...say bye to the plastic pushpins.

Back to the northbridge.
The stock mounts for the Swiftech MCH30 chipset block were indeed too short to match the Gigabyte's mounting holes.
So I decided to do a quick and dirty mockup mount so I could measure for new brackets.
Turns out, this was rock solid and I decided to just leave it as is...
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v7...ker/MCW301.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v7...ker/MCW302.jpg

As I feared/suspected, the distance between the CPU block and the northbridge was just too close to avoid tube crimping.
Ultimately the only satisfactory routing led from the CPU up to the vid card, then down to the northbride and out to the pump.
Like so...
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v7...ker/mcw303.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v7...ker/mcw304.jpg

This made bleeding slightly more difficult as the tubing didn't follow a bottom to top route, instead it went bottom> top> middle.
This caused a big bubble to get trapped between the vid card and the northbridge, but some creative tipping of the case finally freed it up and all was good.

Of course, I have no way to monitor the northbridge temp, so whether or not this was useful, I have no idea.
The stock sink was getting very warm to the touch and I have to assume this setup is better (why do I HAVE to assume this? Mainly because I spent the time, that's why...), so we'll see.

Right then- back to our sad little lives...

Lookin good man. I love the cut down heatsink. a few questions if you don't mind

1) What kind of barbs ar those?
2) how do you like those hose clamps? I had them and dreaded taking them off
3) I cant really see how the NB sink is mounted could you please elaborate a touch?