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Re: The Lost Thread (Starts 2-2-10)
So the new episode of Lost came out.
Wasn't that bad, but still introduces more questions than answers :dry:. The show really needs to start taking a different direction or fans will be left with a sour taste in their mouth when nothing is answered...
One question though: Are we supposed to know what Jacob is referencing to when he says Jack "has what it takes", that caused such a reaction? Or is it another unanswered question we're unaware of?
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I agree, all that setup and the cool lighthouse and zero payoff.
Only thing that I got out of it was
Spoiler:
Show
Jack's ghost dad was either Smoke Monster/Lockelganger or one of his minions. That and "Jack has a pivotal role to play which we already knew.
What was all the other reality son shit about? It didn't seem to really relate to anything.
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i think a new dark " team its organizing :P Claire, Locke ,Sayid may be next ( controlled by dark smoke or whatever ) should be fun.im curios who is coming to the island
Jack has played the leader role from the beginning, maybe he will be the new Jacob (protector of the island )
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Re: The Lost Thread (Starts 2-2-10)
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Rart
So the new episode of Lost came out.
Wasn't that bad, but still introduces more questions than answers :dry:. The show really needs to start taking a different direction or fans will be left with a sour taste in their mouth when nothing is answered...
One question though: Are we supposed to know what Jacob is referencing to when he says Jack "has what it takes", that caused such a reaction? Or is it another unanswered question we're unaware of?
jack never thought he had what it takes when it came to pleasing his father (or life)i guess.
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Sayid went dark side on us :O
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Last scene reminded me of a Marvel comic.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/03/01/AR2010030103497.html?hpid=news-col-blog
Or they could just tell the truth and admit they don't have a effing clue how some of the stuff fits into the story either.:dry:
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What a surprise :rolleyes:
Another small tidbit I noticed: I think we are supposed to infer in the latest episode that when Sayid asked Locke to bring a special someone back from the dead, it was Nadia.
However, he mentioned the "she died in his very arms". Could he actually be referring to Shannon, who "died in his very arms"? I think it was mentioned that Shannon would be returning this season.
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didnt nadia die in his arms after she got ran over?
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He was there beside her but not precisely in his arms.
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Re: The Lost Thread (Starts 2-2-10)
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Ice10UFO
i think a new dark " team its organizing :P Claire, Locke ,Sayid may be next ( controlled by dark smoke or whatever ) should be fun.im curios who is coming to the island
Jack has played the leader role from the beginning, maybe he will be the new Jacob (protector of the island )
I think that's the good side mounting....I feal a cruel trick coming :)
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Re: The Lost Thread (Starts 2-2-10)
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Locke if he is somehow resurrected or whatever doppleganger Locke is are both too tied to the island to ever leave it. Last part also applies to Ben.
My only gripe now seems to be that with the introduction of the Jacob/evil smoke monster dynamic, the entire Widmore/Ben feud seems to have taken a backseat.
Let's get ready to rumble!
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Lock , let say black smoke what he planning for
Saied what he planning for , is to get back his died love ?
jack is the root for everything , new role for Harli
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Rart
My only gripe now seems to be that with the introduction of the Jacob/evil smoke monster dynamic, the entire Widmore/Ben feud seems to have taken a backseat.
Let's get ready to rumble!
Yep :happy:. Looks like they're back in action. Glad the writers didn't forget about them.
And now for Jacob's "touch"... If you refresh your memory on the past episode with flashbacks of Jacob (or just look at Lostpedia), you'll notice that the camera focused on him "touching" every single person he visited. And Richard Alpert had received it as well. Does that mean that now, Kate, Jack, Sawyer, Hurley, Jin/Sun, Sayid, etc. have all become bonafide Richard Alperts?
And the touch makes it so that... you can't kill yourself? I guess that's why Locke could bring himself to suiciding, which was why Ben did it for him. But I feel like there has to be more to it. Why didn't smokey just kill Ilana in order to free Ben? And why was it mentioned that "he knew the rules" and couldn't kill Sawyer (By the way, where the fuck did Sawyer go?). Might just be a hunch, but I think anyone Jacob "touches" enters into their "rules", and can't be killed by smokey. Another small tidbit is that Jacob did touch Ben at the Statue, so it may be entirely possible that Smokey can't kill Ben either.
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Looks like the new Lost came out ~2 hours early :O If anyone's dieing to see it atm.
Downloading it now.
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Re: The Lost Thread (Starts 2-2-10)
CTV in Canada shows it at 7 so that they can show American Idol after it.
As to the episode I thought it was one of the best in quite a while and Nestor Carbonell was absolutely fantastic as Richard .Didn't realize he had those kind of acting chops.
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Damn Canucks and their fucked up airtimes. Guess it's inevitable when they can't get any decent shows of their own, have to tune in to our shit.
A good episode indeed, but one thing that did seem a little out of the ordinary was that in general, flashback/foward/sideways always would always alternate with another, supposedly "present" timeline. This episode was pretty much one giant flashback, with no pauses in between. For dramatic effect?
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I like that it wasn't more of the same old same old.Also for a change it gave more answers than it created questions.
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I found this to be particularly interesting:
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In this game of white vs. black, right vs. wrong, good vs. evil, all we really know is that Jacob and Smokey pretty much hate each other's guts—and that they keep some rudimentary form of a score by trading different colored stones. When Jacob gots Richard on his side, he presents Smokey with a white stone, the equivalent of sliding over another point in a game of Foosball. The Man in Black, as Smocke, did something similar when he successfully converted Sawyer in the cave with all the candidates' names (I think he either removed a white stone from a scale or added a dark stone to it, tipping it in the favor of the darker shade).
Also, did anyone else think that Jacob was being unusually aggressive and forward during the flashbacks (as opposed to his generally passive, ambiguous attitude)?
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The last episode was pretty decent, and in my opinion did answer a fair share of questions. One of my only complaints now are what they are planning to do with Sayid. One of the show's main themes is redemption, and the way Sayid seems to be going right now, he isn't getting any of it. The show just seems to make Sayid out to be incredibly one dimensional - will see another side of him later?
Stephen Colbert bashes ABC's constant ad of "V" on the Lost airing:
http://www.tv.com/letterman-colbert-...spot;gumball;1
...Now available on microwave. XD
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All's great on the lost front except for 1 thing! what the hell is going on with Walt??? i'm convinced he will play some part in this season and let's not forget about jack's father Christian!
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All's great on the lost front except for 1 thing! what the hell is going on with Walt??? i'm convinced he will play some part in this season and let's not forget about jack's father Christian!
What about Jack's son? He also could play some role in the next episodes.
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If the smoke monster manifested himself as Christian Shephard in past episodes (debatable, I know), and the smoke monster cannot traverse water, who the fuck manifested himself as Christian Shephard and told Michael he could 'die now' on the freighter?
Eh?
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I guess both smoke monster and the good Jacob have the ability to transform to a dead man. Same power different cause
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I guess both smoke monster and the good Jacob have the ability to transform to a dead man. Same power different cause
Maybe.
However, Jacob says that he doesn't want to directly influence people. That's like cheating or something.
What we have to conclude from this is that Jacob is a lying motherfucker and as such doesn't qualify as the 'good guy' by any stretch of the imagination.
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I don't understand what game smokey and Jacob played.
It is obvious that smokey wanted to kill Jacob but he couldn't
kill him directly because this wasn't part of the rules.
What rules???
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It's like rugby , any supposed rules are secondary to whatever causes the most mayhem in the end.
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chalice
Maybe.
However, Jacob says that he doesn't want to directly influence people. That's like cheating or something.
What we have to conclude from this is that Jacob is a lying motherfucker and as such doesn't qualify as the 'good guy' by any stretch of the imagination.
It's not a battle between good and evil. It's a battle to keep the absolute evil locked in a place where can only influence a very limited amount of people. Jacob is not the good guy, he is just evil's guard. To accomplish his mission influence people, he is not lying but he uses them. The not influencing story was a good one 2 centuries ago but in the last decades he had an army working for him and even killing people. So he is far from 'the good guy' prototype by any mean for my standards
Any idea why Kate is not in the list?
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chalice
Maybe.
However, Jacob says that he doesn't want to directly influence people. That's like cheating or something.
What we have to conclude from this is that Jacob is a lying motherfucker and as such doesn't qualify as the 'good guy' by any stretch of the imagination.
It's not a battle between good and evil. It's a battle to keep the absolute evil locked in a place where can only influence a very limited amount of people. Jacob is not the good guy, he is just evil's guard. To accomplish his mission influence people, he is not lying but he uses them. The not influencing story was a good one 2 centuries ago but in the last decades he had an army working for him and even killing people. So he is far from 'the good guy' prototype by any mean for my standards
Any idea why Kate is not in the list?
That's a helluva statement, hotshot.
Care to cite your sources for this?
Or are you just full of wank?
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brightsid
Any idea why Kate is not in the list?
No "bad" people are on the list?
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It's just a show I like watching, not a postgraduate study, so sorry but these are just my thoughts and I don't need an official confirmation. Feel free to use them if you really like them but I hold no responsibility if it's just a wrong theory :P
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brightsid
It's just a show I like watching, not a postgraduate study, so sorry but these are just my thoughts and I don't need an official confirmation. Feel free to use them if you really like them but I hold no responsibility if it's just a wrong theory :P
That's perfectly fine.
Yet, you might try prefacing your 'theories' with something like 'I think' or some such, like.
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Any idea why Kate is not in the list?
No "bad" people are on the list?
Saywer is still on the list and I think that Sayid was also. More "bad" than "good" both of them at least from my point of view
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That's perfectly fine.
Yet, you might try prefacing your 'theories' with something like 'I think' or some such, like.
You're absolutely right. That's what I like about this show. We both watch the same episode yet we are questioning different points and at the end of the show probably both of us just had a wrong theory
Time for eastern preparations now. Have a nice weekend
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brightsid
Any idea why Kate is not in the list?
No "bad" people are on the list?
And Jarrah has been the model of perfection throughout this season? :blink:
Although I'm hoping for some kind of redemption in the near future, Sayid seems too one dimensional...
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Couple more things: Miles and Linus were both apparently candidates (http://lostpedia.wikia.com/wiki/Candidates) yet seem to have been crossed out. I guess it could be surmised why Ben was crossed out, but why Miles?
And as for Kate, it seems a little ambiguous:
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Very likely Kate Austen, who met Jacob as a child when she was caught trying to shoplift a lunchbox. Jacob helped her, paying for the lunchbox, and touched her on the nose. The name "Austen" was not seen in the cave, but was later seen in the Lighthouse, not crossed out. Carlton Cuse said in an interview that Kate's name was on the cave wall and crossed out, but regrettably did not make the final edit.
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IdolEyes787
No "bad" people are on the list?
And Jarrah has been the model of perfection throughout this season? :blink:
Although I'm hoping for some kind of redemption in the near future, Sayid seems too one dimensional...
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Couple more things: Miles and Linus were both apparently candidates (
http://lostpedia.wikia.com/wiki/Candidates) yet seem to have been crossed out. I guess it could be surmised why Ben was crossed out, but why Miles?
And as for Kate, it seems a little ambiguous:
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Very likely Kate Austen, who met Jacob as a child when she was caught trying to shoplift a lunchbox. Jacob helped her, paying for the lunchbox, and touched her on the nose. The name "Austen" was not seen in the cave, but was later seen in the Lighthouse, not crossed out. Carlton Cuse said in an interview that Kate's name was on the cave wall and crossed out, but regrettably did not make the final edit.
You really haven't a clue, do you mate?
Best to shut the fuck up now.
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Rart
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IdolEyes787
No "bad" people are on the list?
And Jarrah has been the model of perfection throughout this season? :blink:
Although I'm hoping for some kind of redemption in the near future, Sayid seems too one dimensional...
Edit:
Couple more things: Miles and Linus were both apparently candidates (
http://lostpedia.wikia.com/wiki/Candidates) yet seem to have been crossed out. I guess it could be surmised why Ben was crossed out, but why Miles?
And as for Kate, it seems a little ambiguous:
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Very likely Kate Austen, who met Jacob as a child when she was caught trying to shoplift a lunchbox. Jacob helped her, paying for the lunchbox, and touched her on the nose. The name "Austen" was not seen in the cave, but was later seen in the Lighthouse, not crossed out. Carlton Cuse said in an interview that Kate's name was on the cave wall and crossed out, but regrettably did not make the final edit.
I don't know what will happen. I am just waiting to
end because this season gave me really mixed up thoughts.
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Rart
And Jarrah has been the model of perfection throughout this season? :blink:
Although I'm hoping for some kind of redemption in the near future, Sayid seems too one dimensional...
Edit:
Couple more things: Miles and Linus were both apparently candidates (
http://lostpedia.wikia.com/wiki/Candidates) yet seem to have been crossed out. I guess it could be surmised why Ben was crossed out, but why Miles?
And as for Kate, it seems a little ambiguous:
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Very likely Kate Austen, who met Jacob as a child when she was caught trying to shoplift a lunchbox. Jacob helped her, paying for the lunchbox, and touched her on the nose. The name "Austen" was not seen in the cave, but was later seen in the Lighthouse, not crossed out. Carlton Cuse said in an interview that Kate's name was on the cave wall and crossed out, but regrettably did not make the final edit.
You really haven't a clue, do you mate?
Best to shut the fuck up now.
Few do when it comes to Lost.
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No idea what is this any info?
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It's my favorite drama :)
I like it!
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Rart
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IdolEyes787
No "bad" people are on the list?
And Jarrah has been the model of perfection throughout this season? :blink:
Although I'm hoping for some kind of redemption in the near future, Sayid seems too one dimensional...
Edit:
Couple more things: Miles and Linus were both apparently candidates (
http://lostpedia.wikia.com/wiki/Candidates) yet seem to have been crossed out. I guess it could be surmised why Ben was crossed out, but why Miles?
And as for Kate, it seems a little ambiguous:
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Very likely Kate Austen, who met Jacob as a child when she was caught trying to shoplift a lunchbox. Jacob helped her, paying for the lunchbox, and touched her on the nose. The name "Austen" was not seen in the cave, but was later seen in the Lighthouse, not crossed out. Carlton Cuse said in an interview that Kate's name was on the cave wall and crossed out, but regrettably did not make the final edit.
Nevermind I was having a Kate fantasy ( she's such a bad,bad girlhttp://www.democraticunderground.com...ages/spank.gif) and hadn't realized I had actually posted something.:blushing: