Atheists and christmas

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Originally Posted by sez

So, although Atheists reject dogma on every level they would be stupid to ignore every good piece of advice (and I use advice for a reason) in the Bible. The great thing about Atheism, and the reading of the Bible from an Atheist perspective, is that you can pick and choose what you follow and what you don't. For example, I don't much like some of the violence in the Old Testament - see Exodus 34 : 13-17. Thus, I plan to celebrate Christmas this year like all other years: I will have Christmas dinner, send and receive presents, put up a Christmas tree and happily take the day off. Because I follow the evidence and don't believe in God does not mean I don't like having a fun day. Why would I? And what is the problem with that?

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Yes. I also believe religion has good points. I don't think it is supposed to be taken literally. If so, then I feel people are missing the point. The morals, the stories, the values that it emphasize pertaining to your life are the important things, I guess.

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Originally Posted by unknown1_

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Originally Posted by sez

So, although Atheists reject dogma on every level they would be stupid to ignore every good piece of advice (and I use advice for a reason) in the Bible. The great thing about Atheism, and the reading of the Bible from an Atheist perspective, is that you can pick and choose what you follow and what you don't. For example, I don't much like some of the violence in the Old Testament - see Exodus 34 : 13-17. Thus, I plan to celebrate Christmas this year like all other years: I will have Christmas dinner, send and receive presents, put up a Christmas tree and happily take the day off. Because I follow the evidence and don't believe in God does not mean I don't like having a fun day. Why would I? And what is the problem with that?

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Yes. I also believe religion has good points. I don't think it is supposed to be taken literally. If so, then I feel people are missing the point. The morals, the stories, the values that it emphasize pertaining to your life are the important things, I guess.

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And a good guess it is.

Concur.

i personally don't think atheists know about the meaning of christmas

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Originally Posted by digimon

i personally don't think atheists know about the meaning of christmas

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Does anyone? The only reason I know about the 'true meaning of christmas', was from watching The Grinch every Christmas :lol:

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Originally Posted by j2k4

I'm sure none of the litany of Saints could withstand today's Christianity-averse media.

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I hear McDonalds is giving out a free Nobel Peace prize with the purchase of a Big Mac.

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Why do I have to purchase something to get a Peace Prize. People have been known to get them without doing anything.:whistling

Times are changing, Bob.

Call it Anti-Socialism.

Or not.

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Originally Posted by clocker

Or not.

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Or not.

I mean, yes - that.

BTW-

I have begun to collect Nobels.

I have slews of the Stockholm version; the McDonald's type is not a difficult get, but harder than the first.

The Jack-in-the-Box version is sorta tough to find, and I'm still looking for one from Dairy Queen.

Ah, conservative humor.

What have the Norwegians done to irritate you lately?

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Originally Posted by clocker

Ah, conservative humor.

What have the Norwegians done to irritate you lately?

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Nothing, nothing at all.

I'm just a prick that way.

So we're bored.
What, no Know Nothing Tea Party event to attend today?

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Originally Posted by clocker

So we're bored.
What, no Know Nothing Tea Party event to attend today?

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Oh, we're smarter and richer than the hoi-polloi, or haven't you heard.

NYT and CBS say so, and I'm not gonna argue.

NYT and CBS did not say "smarter", they said "higher level of education".
Bush was granted a college degree, so you may assign whatever value to the "higher level" you want.

The articles also mention the age/ethnicity breakdown of the TPs and it confounds me how a mostly white, mostly old group of supposedly well-educated people have been duped into agitating against their own best interests.
Because of the high median age of the group, it's safe to say that many are already- and many more soon to be- enjoying the benefits of the "socialistic programs", i.e., Medicare, Medicaid and Social Security, that they so adamantly oppose.

Where was the Tea Party when Bush shifted the tax burden from the top earning group down to the middle class ( the final gasp of Reagan's inane and deeply flawed "trickle down economics" policy)?
Why is the Tea Party all upset now when the tax rate on the middle class is the lowest in 50 years?

Given the disconnect between what the Tea Party says and the reality of conditions, it's logical to assume that the main plank in the Tea Party platform is "Bitch About Everything And See What Sticks To the Wall".

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Originally Posted by clocker

NYT and CBS did not say "smarter", they said "higher level of education".
Bush was granted a college degree, so you may assign whatever value to the "higher level" you want.

The articles also mention the age/ethnicity breakdown of the TPs and it confounds me how a mostly white, mostly old group of supposedly well-educated people have been duped into agitating against their own best interests.
Because of the high median age of the group, it's safe to say that many are already- and many more soon to be- enjoying the benefits of the "socialistic programs", i.e., Medicare, Medicaid and Social Security, that they so adamantly oppose.

Where was the Tea Party when Bush shifted the tax burden from the top earning group down to the middle class ( the final gasp of Reagan's inane and deeply flawed "trickle down economics" policy)?
Why is the Tea Party all upset now when the tax rate on the middle class is the lowest in 50 years?

Given the disconnect between what the Tea Party says and the reality of conditions, it's logical to assume that the main plank in the Tea Party platform is "Bitch About Everything And See What Sticks To the Wall".

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I see you are inclined to comprehensive mis-interpretation.

It is a common condition for which there is no cure, save for the passage of time.

The month of November will bring enlightenment - be patient, now.

I see you are inclined to comprehensive self-delusion.
There is a cure but withdrawal from Fox would probably be traumatic for you.
Thanksgiving is in November, you can have turkey.

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Originally Posted by clocker

I see you are inclined to comprehensive self-delusion.
There is a cure but withdrawal from Fox would probably be traumatic for you.
Thanksgiving is in November, you can have turkey.

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Mmmmmm, turkey...