Ahhh, yeah but that's a crap test anyway :P
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Ahhh, yeah but that's a crap test anyway :P
oh didnt know that
Yes, I know you did.Quote:
Originally Posted by Detale
Go back to sleep now, things will better in the morning.
You promise?
No, but I'm hopeful.
nope didn't work.
I was just checking on some HW item prices today and I felt the need to bench my disks as I haven't done it since I posted in this thread last (4-18). Needless to say i was surprised as hell at my results
http://img257.imageshack.us/img257/5360/68before.jpg
http://img6.imageshack.us/img6/1627/38784178.jpg
My scores have actually gotten better!! I have set Perfect disk 11 to run in the early AM when no one is on the computer and that's it. Admittedly I was a touch concerned about SSD's as many people said how their speed will decrease substantially in a short period of time. I've had my babies for 6 months now and I am way impressed that I've had very little loss of speed and I don't think I have the latest firmware either as I was too lazy to upgrade.
How is everyone else doing in this regard??
I picked up a couple of them for a raid 0 on my HTPC. I like the drives so far, tho I have heard others had problems with them.
specs,screens?? gimme something bi-poster.
I think enough of us have posted specs to know what they're capable of. :unsure:
Surely, but with the SSD's they're supposed to lose speed over time and I just wanted to see how everyone else is doing with theirs.
From what I've read, those problems don't really exist anymore if you have TRIM (windows7 and an ssd that supports the TRIM command).Quote:
Originally Posted by Detale
Are you running PerfectDisk on your ssd?
I don't run PerfectDisk on mine; I've read that a simple "Log off' once for a few hours once a week is all you need to do. Whenever I remember to do so, I log off at night when I go to bed and let the disk do it's thing while I sleep. :unsure:Quote:
Originally Posted by tesco
Perfectdisk is a defragmenting software.Quote:
Originally Posted by SkizI don't run PerfectDisk on mine; I've read that a simple "Log off' once for a few hours once a week is all you need to do. Whenever I remember to do so, I log off at night when I go to bed and let the disk do it's thing while I sleep. :unsure:Quote:
Originally Posted by tesco
Defragmenting an SSD will destroy it, that's why I was wondering if that was what detale was using it for...
Thanks for that info Ross , didn't know that . Was told Win7 disables Defrag for SSD units ?Quote:
Originally Posted by tescoPerfectdisk is a defragmenting software.Quote:
Originally Posted by Skiz
Defragmenting an SSD will destroy it, that's why I was wondering if that was what detale was using it for...
Perfect disk 10 and now 11 has support for SSD's so instead of just defraging it. I believe that it fills up all the cells and then erases them, then it consolidates the free space. Supposedly it helps the disk life along better and Yes I'm running PD 11 now about once every two weeks or when i remember. This and other methods of filling up the cells completely and then erasing them are on the OCZ forums.
I see. Haven't heard of that before.Quote:
Originally Posted by Detale
Just keep in mind that SSD's cells only have a limited life. Something like 10,000 writes before they can't keep the charge anymore.
So if you're constantly rearranging data then you're dramatically decreasing the life of the SSD.
Which is why you don't want to run defragmenting software on an SSD (not to mention it would have NO benefit anyway).
I'm no expert just repeating things that I've read.
I've read that as well bud. But this is what "the cool kids" are doing on the OCZ board. Honestly, who the hell knows? I think maybe I'll not run it for a month and see what test results I get then and see if there's a noticeable difference.
So what's the latest news on SSDs?
I stopped paying attention to them since June, and I'm ready to buy now...
Is the intel x25-m still a good deal or has something better come along? (don't want to go over $250CAD).
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product...-031-_-Product
edit: After reading this and this it's looking like other great choices are SSDs with the Sandforce sf-1200 controller in them:
OCZ Vertex 2 OCZSSD3-2VTX120G 3.5" 120GB SATA II MLC
OCZ Vertex 2 OCZSSD3-2VTX90G 3.5" 90GB SATA II MLC
Corsair Force CSSD-F120GB2-BRKT 2.5" 120GB SATA II
Personally I think the intels are over priced bud. From what I've read OCZ and Crucial are the best buys ATM.
EDIT: a quick look shows me the OCZ Vertex 2 OCZSSD3-2VTX90G 3.5" 90GB SATA II MLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD) it has faster reads/writes and is a few bucks cheaper you get 10 more gigs as well. Also man you should wait for the holiday sales it will save you tons!
Are you talking about christmas or your "Black Friday" sales which don't apply to me? :unsure:
Damn Foreigners!! I guess I meant Xmas then. Ross I thought you were an apple pie guy man. Are you Brazilian?
On topic though your ressurection of this thread and the need for me to do a fresh install on Win7 has led me to update the firmware, use sanitary erase and reinstall windows. I have to say I am impressed by the lack of degradation I have. I have had these drives for almost a year now and I do put them through the wringer and the have held up better than I expected.
Original post in this thread.
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After doing my maintenance today
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I'm not sure what that downward spike is but I'll surely investigate like.
Your windows might have been doing something in the background.Quote:
Originally Posted by Detale
It's good to see that the performance stayed so consistent after all these months, that's good news.
edit: wait, what "maintenance" did you do? Do you mean you just erased it and reinstalled windows? In that case, wish you would have put up a benchmark showing the performance after months of daily use.
I know I thought of it after the fact. By maintenance I meant I just updated and reinstalled. I do however do a regular work up on my disks. I use Perfect disk 11 about once a week and make sure the trim command is enabled. Also I'll leave the bios screen up for an hour or so from time to time so the trim can work better.
So did the performance ever drop noticeably or was it pretty much constant?
I do remember it dropping last time I reinstalled and I was concerned thinking that it would be a steady degradation from then on. To my surprise after using the OCZ sanitary erase things are pretty much the same as the day I got it a year ago
So today my only hard drive crashed, which lead to me ordering the 90gb OCZ Vertex 2 and also a 1tb WD drive. It picked a great time to crash, I was going to order the ssd this week anyway, why couldn't it have crashed a few days from now. :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by tesco
I'll post some benchmarks when it's here.
Performance of my RAIDed OCZ Vertex's is almost identical today to initial install almost a year ago.Quote:
Originally Posted by tesco
I also have been using Perfect Disk 11 as a defrag.
Compare to the screenie from page 1...
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v7...vertex2010.png
@Detale...
I have been under the impression that TRIM doesn't work on RAID arrays...has something changed or was I wrong all along?
Honestly I'm not sure. As usual I'm betting you're right. I'll do some research and check it out maybe I'm wasting time with it then. Wouldn't be the first time ;)
EDIT: Read this just now and just so happens I have the latest rapid storage installed, but it looks like it's only for Intel boards
How do these results look?
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Nowhere near as high as you two, but then mine isn't raided and I'm on a sata2 controller; or is something wrong?
And what's up with the imaginary barrier at around 225mb/s? Is that the limit of the ssd or my controller?
And yes I bought the agility2 when I meant to buy the vertex2. Oh well, who needs 5 times the IOps. :rolleyes:
But overall I'm really happy with this, everything loads almost instantly no matter what I'm doing at the time...
It looks good bud. Do you have the data cache enabled/disabled? Try both I forget which one is right. Latest FW? Also I always wanted to try this program SSD Life but it doesn't work on raid :( Also you can try the tweaks on this page. Personally they did me no good but others say they helped out considerably.
I was looking at these Micro Center SSD's I mean 64GB for $99?? They're sandforce as well. I can't find any reviews on them one way or another. Anyone know about them at all? I think I'm going to buy 2 and try it out
Your read looks about right but your burst speed is strangely low.
Mine has always been lower than D's (then again, I haven't watercooled my electrons like he has) but still 10 times higher than yours- a discrepancy not accounted for merely with RAID.
Are you running Intel's storage software and what chipset on the motherboard?
Not true Clock. Most of the time your speeds beat mine up in the schoolyard.
I didn't install any special drivers at all, and not running in ahci mode because I hadn't even heard of it until a few hours ago.Quote:
Originally Posted by clocker
The motherboard is a EVGA 680i sli so the chipset is an NVidia 680i.
Write cache is enabled (by default), write-cache buffering is on (I don't want data loss if I lose power).Quote:
Originally Posted by Detale
I tried with write-cache buffering off just to see and there was no difference anyway.
I've got my own Win7 tweak that I came up with that isn't in the tweaking guides. It might not apply to vista or XP.
I noticed that when Windows7 was starting up and the animation came up (after bios screen), the computer would sit there for about 10 seconds until the animation completed.
So I disabled it here:
Start -> Run -> type 'msconfig' -> Click OK -> Click 'Boot' tab -> Check 'No GUI Boot' -> Click OK -> Restart to see the difference.
Shaved off about 7 seconds.
My computer now goes 10 seconds in the BIOS -> black screen for about 3 seconds -> Blue Welcome to Windows screen for about 3 seconds -> Useable desktop
Total startup time has to be less than 20 seconds.
Damn Ross thats a good one! Think I'll try it myself. I didn't even know that was an option. Also I forgot to ask what version of Win 7 are you using?
64bit, it's one of those ones that has all the windows updated integrated into it, from February.
Ah, lovely.
Mine just died it would appear. :(
Was browsing the internets and my screen just turned off, as if it were unplugged. A reboot yielded the error: "Windows failed to start. A recent hardware or software change might be the cause. Info: The boot selection failed because a required device is inaccessible".
The drive no longer appears in BIOS and is, as far as I can tell, completely dead. I'll call OCZ tomorrow.
Sounds like when my hard drive died, screen suddenly went blank and when I tried to restart there was no hard drive detected anymore. :(Quote:
Originally Posted by Skiz