BT politics general thread. Oh, the drama

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Originally Posted by BlastGT1

I'm just curious here, but what's YOUR ideal tracker going to be like? I'm asking Albo primarily, but I'd love to hear honest opinions from everyone. More to the point, how would YOU run one? Ban every person who popped off at you, or give people a fair chance to get it off their chest and see things clearly first? Should you REALLY trust that someone who got caught trading or cheating won't do it again? How do you know that this isn't the second, third, fourth, or fifth time they've been busted? How do you decide on letting X stay, while banning Y, when they both did the same thing? They all give the SAME excuses. Many trackers DO give a cheater, trader, or multiple account holder a second chance, either with a new account under watch, or having to take what's often the worst account, stats-wise. You wouldn't know this if you're not in the tracker staff circuit, or have a friend who is. But humor me. Tell me the system you'd have in place, If you've got good ideas, I'd be thrilled to hear them, because good ideas can come from anywhere and everywhere, sometimes where you least expect.

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I don't know much about running a tracker and I would never want to learn how to. My time is precious and wasting it on running trackers and irc seems idiotic and pointless to me.

I'll try to answer your questions though just for the fun of it.

1.Sct would be my Ideal Tracker. If I ever ran a tracker, I would try and follow in Sct's footsteps as much as possible.

2.I would give second chances for sure and I would certainly not ban someone for speaking their minds. i love people who express themselves freely without having to feel like they're obligated to kiss ass.
Although, unlike you guys I would certainly NOT give a second chance to a staffer who tries to expose personal info of the members that he has beef with.
(You still didn't answer me why SERB wasn't banned from TiT after he tried to expose Detale's info btw)

3. I would give cheaters and scamers a second chance for sure. I wouldn't ban traders who don't have more than 1 account because I would assume that they traded their account because they are in need of the tracker and they will make good use of it.
I would give scamers an account so they don't feel the need to scam anymore, and I would give cheaters extra buffer so they wouldn't feel the need to cheat in my site anymore.
If they violate their second chance then I would ban them for good.

Looks like this baby is winding up but I didn't expect that from sport either lol.

Right now would be about that time when I'd be shitting all over artemis and all these grown ups who think they are mature because they have alot of invites to alot of places and unlike us,they talk BT in secret forums but I won't.

Your cocoons though are turning you into e-cabbages,I mean just look at you,you are the ones who are supposed to be good at this debate thing with your nice active intelligent debate topic threads and stuff.

I mean,you suck at the insults,[no offense but that sport guy insults like he's from a genealogy of semi-retarded inbred first borns or something]
I almost have to beg you to partake in an intelligent debate yet you still cower,you are supposed to be good at this ffs.

Its not a debate when you are all agreeing you know.Just because somebody holds an antithetical view to what you believe or hold as word,it doesn't mean they are immature or retarded.They just don't agree with you its that simple.

I was gonna go on a rant about artemis but I'll just say something little as a courtesy to his No!.As somebody who has been through school,I know english is not universal and its never escaped me that some people actually try to learn it right from under a tree exposed to all the elements that loyally serve to distract the learning process.At times its good we think before we end up posting things that others may assume is what we really are.

And I always know what am doing so you just keep getting pissed letting out details of your incestous love affair with your sisters.Am sitting here lls.

sct is dead for a reason it was lame as was fee there is a reason why it phailed.

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Originally Posted by sez

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Originally Posted by killercam101

:dry: really? harsh realities of BT....

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Dunno where you got the harsh from lol.

N'ways good to c ya around.I know serb invited you to gft so its good to see you paying him some homage albeit silently,I also like the reverse psychology that you have going on here,siding with the atari nerds that are afraid even when called out to an intelligent debate while in reality you actually endorsed what serb was doing,that's really thug of you ;)

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As far as what he was doing..with peoples info, I was unaware nor cared. I did know about his FST account but at that time, I think that user with like 30+ accounts was just caught during that same period. Therefore, I figured it couldn't have been that hard to get into FST. Also the whole serb thing, I have no hostility towards him and why would I? I don't even know why you're mad at serb [or are you mad at the idea of staff abusing peoples information?] either way I couldn't care. What issue you have with him is yours and that's something special [judging by the amount of post you have in this thread] that I'd never try to take away from you.

If you mean I'm endorsing serb by not banning serb with my magic BT powers or because ive sided with "atari" nerds then so be it. Being thug means never having to say you're sorry.

and thanks for the real killer cam story, you seem to have reality confused with entertainment.

killer cam is a rapper/entertainer..him saying he's the leader of dipset and all that other stuff is for entertainment purposes. Why would any drug dealer or real gangster come out on tv and say..im the leader of this organized crime gang and then at the end of the interview freestyle? :yup: stop taking this shit so serious..and thanks for baiting me (no homo)

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Originally Posted by Artemis

To 4pirates, just because you were caught trading a revolt invitation doesn't mean serb was behind it, any kind of trading with revolt is dealt with immediately .Your screenshots simply show you were caught, better luck next time ! But then I don't understand what your interest in revolt would be anyway ? Or is it just a burning need to say you are a part of everything even remotely bit torrent related - surely a forum can't be part of your 'thesis' ?

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I was not trading revolt, he was offering it. I was just sleeping and he woke me up. Since he scammed me I scratch the surface and found out he has been helped and used some sites, trackers for his game.
You can ban me but you cant stop him is equal to than you are helping him. ;)
He just banned at revolt 2 weeks ago. Why now ? Since he use 100 different nicks and he is pretty well connected, how can we know that he is still not there under a different nick ? We are talking about a person that can create zillion revolt invites in a minute.
Assuming that, he is (was) your master there or someone gave him power to use this admin like powers for evil purposes or how the hell can he use revolt invites for trapping ? Let me tell you how, because he is not afraid to loose his revolt account. He was powered up there.

I am still in. its about watching the community closely, so that no one can set a trap again. If you let trappers work freely at your own place (If you dont do your job right) there is always other people to stop them.
He who controls the spice, controls the universe.


Todays motto : Only God can judge me.

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Oh he has mentioned Revolt, GFT, TIT, some secret place name at public, lets fuck him over wont help any of us. Negative actions can only bring negative reactions. No one can be happy about it. There is only one super power and its watching us from heavens above.

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Originally Posted by Sp00ner

sct is dead for a reason it was lame as was fee there is a reason why it phailed.

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So judging by your logic just because Sct is now dead, it means that it was always lame, right?

TiT is about to die as well. Does that mean that TiT was garbage and a failure?

Well technically TiT was in fact a failure but you're wrong about Sct. Sct's closing doesn't have anything to do with it's efficiency as a tracker.

revolt lol thats where the main irc channel where staff mass ban ppl

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Originally Posted by Artemis

And how exactly did we get from the end of TorrentiT, and how sad it is to see yet another tracker go, to this sideshow ?

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you're the one who joined the fray, bringing (again) revolt to the table with sporty and n00bz0r although it was totally unnecessary (leave revolt etc).

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Originally Posted by sez

Looks like this baby is winding up but I didn't expect that from sport either lol.

Right now would be about that time when I'd be shitting all over artemis and all these grown ups who think they are mature because they have alot of invites to alot of places and unlike us,they talk BT in secret forums but I won't.

Your cocoons though are turning you into e-cabbages,I mean just look at you,you are the ones who are supposed to be good at this debate thing with your nice active intelligent debate topic threads and stuff.

I mean,you suck at the insults,[no offense but that sport guy insults like he's from a genealogy of semi-retarded inbred first borns or something]
I almost have to beg you to partake in an intelligent debate yet you still cower,you are supposed to be good at this ffs.

Its not a debate when you are all agreeing you know.Just because somebody holds an antithetical view to what you believe or hold as word,it doesn't mean they are immature or retarded.They just don't agree with you its that simple.

I was gonna go on a rant about artemis but I'll just say something little as a courtesy to his No!.As somebody who has been through school,I know english is not universal and its never escaped me that some people actually try to learn it right from under a tree exposed to all the elements that loyally serve to distract the learning process.At times its good we think before we end up posting things that others may assume is what we really are.

And I always know what am doing so you just keep getting pissed letting out details of your incestous love affair with your sisters.Am sitting here lls.

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Why not go on a rant at me, it would at least make sense, I've read that diatribe a couple of times and that didn't, what are you babbling on about ?
But then I don't need to plunge to the depths of attacking someone personally for their point of view, I am quite able to debate a point of view without needing any form of insult, although I will confess to a certain amount of confusion about what you were actually trying to say?
What I can see is this discussion has degenerated into a kind of us and them mentality, and moved far from the original topic which was serb and how his usage of peoples personal information is a danger to the community in general, and how some staff have come forward with this, and now the thread has degenerated into a general hate fest!
I was not the original person who mentioned revolt that was 4pirates and his conspiracy theory - but then it is all part of his 'thesis', but I will defend that forum against misinformation because I happen to like it . As for 4pirates he is probably the most inveterate trader here, so banning is an occupational hazard to him, I'm not sure why he needs to go on about it ?

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Originally Posted by Artemis

Why not go on a rant at me, it would at least make sense, I've read that diatribe a couple of times and that didn't, what are you babbling on about ?
But then I don't need to plunge to the depths of attacking someone personally for their point of view, I am quite able to debate a point of view without needing any form of insult, although I will confess to a certain amount of confusion about what you were actually trying to say?
What I can see is this discussion has degenerated into a kind of us and them mentality, and moved far from the original topic which was serb and how his usage of peoples personal information is a danger to the community in general, and how some staff have come forward with this, and now the thread has degenerated into a general hate fest!
I was not the original person who mentioned revolt that was 4pirates and his conspiracy theory - but then it is all part of his 'thesis', but I will defend that forum against misinformation because I happen to like it . As for 4pirates he is probably the most inveterate trader here, so banning is an occupational hazard to him, I'm not sure why he needs to go on about it ?

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You are killing me here. Dammit, there is no theory but reality itself. That place invites used for trapping period. I dont care about the ban, whats done has been done. But I care about the method. Über super ultra forum used as trapping utility.
For the community in general yes I do care. If thats a leet place why its invites used at trades.

You are telling us, everyone at that forum has unlimited invites. Ah I forgot you dont have nothing to say, you just irritated to see REVOLT name. Sorry but that doesnt change the fact that place invites used for trading traps.

Babbling this babbling that at least I speak of truth. Since you see it as conspiracy, I think you are babbling more than us at your perspective. If we didnt talked about it than you will sleep or ignore when they use your site name for a dirty business (TRAP).
Knowing is the true power. Cant you see this is for community good.

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Originally Posted by Artemis

but I will defend that forum

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and you think that I am not. I am not asslicking anyone, but showing pros and cons for that forum is a part of defending procedure.

P.S: And when does verbally attacking people count as defense for anything at all.

Oh gosh mighty revolt users are coming out from shadow

Ignorance is bliss.. :whistling:

4pirates kid has a point

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Originally Posted by sportyloves

Who the f**ck are you, you are nothing, so just keep your nose out of grownup issues,,,

And yes I have got a very big hammer...

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All bow!

seriously dude,get a life and while you are at it spin on this _|_

So many morons on here, and ewwwyourface, nice one on posting that,,,

We will find out who you are, and you will be banned.

and by the way, if you're wondering who I am, break my nick, it's an anagram.

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Originally Posted by sportyloves

and by the way, if you're wondering who I am, break my nick, it's an anagram.

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"revolt sysop"! :lol:

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Originally Posted by sportyloves

So many morons on here, and ewwwyourface, nice one on posting that,,,

We will find out who you are, and you will be banned.

and by the way, if you're wondering who I am, break my nick, it's an anagram.

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Btw A doctrine.

And as for so many morons being here I couldn't agree more ,still I don't see what is accomplished by insulting you them.

Ewwwyourface, you got some balls m8. I personally never find enough courage to paste some inside info. You know insults turns to direct threats after that.
Since I am older than most of you. I wanted to relax and take the minimal attack. Thanks for being honest and sticking with the truth afterall true FST spirit has no part in lies and games.

I have to agree with Cabalo here (who would have thought eh?). Sportyloves comes off as childish to me too. I am against trading also, but I don't think a person looses his humanity when he trades tracker invites. Errare humanum est, right?

Not everyone is an idiot just cause they post here. At least in your second post you said that there are so many morons, which is less than everyone, I guess. Swearing doesn't impress me, though.

As far as the BT police goes, I don't find that so wrong, as long as the people doing it don't have a hidden agenda. I don't know that many Revolt people to be able to tell, though (but those that I do know seem good people to me).

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Go peddle your lies elsewhere "moron."

sportyloves - im already banned from ur stupid forum and even if i wasnt dont make threats u cant keep lol
btw full revolt review posted in what trackers offer make more fake threats plz

How about no one make anymore threats since the threats and the posting of screenshots in retaliation are both pointless , childish , counterproductive, stupid etc etc.

Seriously if anyone has personal vendettas to settle take them someplace else.

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Originally Posted by IdolEyes787

Seriously if anyone has personal vendettas to settle take them someplace else.

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the ungiveaway thread ? :shifty:

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Originally Posted by IdolEyes787

Seriously if anyone has personal vendettas to settle take them someplace else.

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the ungiveaway thread ? :shifty:

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:yup:

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Originally Posted by IdolEyes787

Seriously, if anyone has personal vendettas to settle take them someplace else.

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wait, isn't that what the general bittorrent discussion is for?

Why not make another thread for this discussion, about Serb, revolt, his methods of catchings traders and so on, after all this the good bye TiT thread ( or it should be ) and Serb didn't had that much to do with it closing anyway.

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Originally Posted by th0r

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Originally Posted by IdolEyes787

Seriously, if anyone has personal vendettas to settle take them someplace else.

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wait, isn't that what the general bittorrent discussion is for?

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Retarded and tedious pages of back and forth dialog between a few disgruntled members over personal vendettas is not general bittorrent.

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Originally Posted by th0r

wait, isn't that what the general bittorrent discussion is for?

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Retarded and tedious pages of back and forth dialog between a few disgruntled members over personal vendettas is not general bittorrent.

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Still, drama is fun, SUBMIT TO IT!

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Originally Posted by IdolEyes787

How about no one make anymore threats since the threats and the posting of screenshots in retaliation are both pointless , childish , counterproductive, stupid etc etc.

Seriously if anyone has personal vendettas to settle take them someplace else.

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the threats are entertaining and the screenshots are informative. General bittorrent!

Informative how exactly? By showing that there are bt sites and forums out there?

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Originally Posted by IdolEyes787

Informative how exactly? By showing that there are bt sites and forums out there?

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at least you don't argue that the threats aren't entertaining :D

the screenshot he posted here was informative to me because i didn't know anything about revolt before and I learned what the forum looks like, and that they have threads about baiting traders (i don't know if you looked at the screenshot)

the screenshots he posted in the tracker review thread were even more informative because it had the forum rules and other information.

If you are after information then I can tell you that one place is no or less like every other place give or take a good person or an asshole or two.

This thread isn't helping TiT members who want to follow news about the site, or get some help.
Therefore I'm splitting this thread in two discussions, one for TiT and another for serb and revolt.

Why would anyone want to watch tv when there is all this drama right here on FST? I need the popcorn now

Serb has become BT legend in short time, and many of you are just jealous on him coz all BT groupies throw themselves on him and like his big banhammer :P

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Originally Posted by torentas

Serb has become BT legend in short time, and many of you are just jealous on him coz all BT groupies throw themselves on him and like his big banhammer :P

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/me jumps to the future 2012....Serb who

/me jumps to the present:extradry who? - sorry, i'm just joking, no offense, let the drama continue!

I feel like I could have accomplished many more productive things then reading this thread in full. I feel like it should be an insult that this type of negligence and nonsense is tolerated. I don't really have any background in any type of 'BT Politics' nor do I have any intentions to engage in such discussions. Just my 2 cents on this abysmal situation. If my post requires any contribution to the content herein, its this: do not waste your time.

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Originally Posted by ExtraDry

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Originally Posted by torentas

Serb has become BT legend in short time, and many of you are just jealous on him coz all BT groupies throw themselves on him and like his big banhammer :P

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/me jumps to the future 2012....Serb who

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/me goes back to 2010.. who the fuck is extradry :naughty:

Lets face the reality.

You can't always beg for invites, sometimes you need to have something to offer for invite.
I bet everyone traded before they collected what they want/need.

I am not trader supporter, but sometimes there is no another way, or i am wrong?