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how does your overclocked CPU run at 22idle....damnnn lol
It's magic.
I usually pay attention to the "average" figure...although this only covers two hours, it's still fairly representative of Sprocket's current performance level.
Are you sure you didn't tweak "compensation for this sensor" in MBM Clocker? :unsure:Quote:
Originally posted by clocker@4 May 2004 - 14:31
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how does your overclocked CPU run at 22idle....damnnn lol
It's magic.
I usually pay attention to the "average" figure...although this only covers two hours, it's still fairly representative of Sprocket's current performance level.
Nope, haven't touched any of those settings.
Simply picked my board from the list in the installation wizard and let it be.
I notice she's taken over your chair.
Mind you, I don't suppose you have much time to sit down. :rolleyes:
Sprocket sits where (and when) she wants to sit.
Headstrong little vixen, she is.
thought i would bump this one back up again, i knew it survived :P
clocker, and some other people, mgiht be looking for it...
Jeez...was the SilentTower fiasco just a bad dream?
what the hell are you talking about clocker? :blink:Quote:
Originally posted by clocker@9 June 2004 - 21:56
Jeez...was the SilentTower fiasco just a bad dream?
:lol:
I think clocker's gone crazy!
He's talking about towers again, and silent ones at that....
:blink:
:lol: Nah, I wish it was a dream, hoever sadly enough, it has all been lost :(
*puts on his dorothy voice* and you were there, and you too.Quote:
Originally posted by clocker@9 June 2004 - 21:56
Jeez...was the SilentTower fiasco just a bad dream?
*puts on his dorothy voice* and you were there, and you too. [/b][/quote]Quote:
Originally posted by Duffman3+9 June 2004 - 22:14--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Duffman3 @ 9 June 2004 - 22:14)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-clocker@9 June 2004 - 21:56
Jeez...was the SilentTower fiasco just a bad dream?
it doesn't look like we're in kansas anymore, toto :unsure:
Damn.
Don't this just beat all?
I finally get Sprocket back to semi-normalcy and look what happens.
We go back in time.
Gee willikers.
Might just have to pull my Delorian out of the garage.
You really should.Quote:
Originally posted by Tormentor@9 June 2004 - 21:35
Might just have to pull my Delorian out of the garage.
Then you can park your Delorean indoors.
you ever get your camera back clocky?
You really should.Quote:
Originally posted by clocker+9 June 2004 - 21:37--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (clocker @ 9 June 2004 - 21:37)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Tormentor@9 June 2004 - 21:35
Might just have to pull my Delorian out of the garage.
Then you can park your Delorean indoors. [/b][/quote]
Whatever, I cant spell worth shit.
Not yet.Quote:
Originally posted by Duffman3@9 June 2004 - 21:40
you ever get your camera back clocky?
It's scheduled to return on the 15th or 16th.
@Tormentor...sorry I just couldn't resist.
I'm feeling especially frisky this evening.
Must be the rum. ;)
You really should.Quote:
Originally posted by clocker+9 June 2004 - 22:37--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (clocker @ 9 June 2004 - 22:37)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Tormentor@9 June 2004 - 21:35
Might just have to pull my Delorian out of the garage.
Then you can park your Delorean indoors. [/b][/quote]
We need to get the flux capacitor going. :rolleyes:
1.21 gigawatts?
Ok, Just stay away from me :ph34r:Quote:
Originally posted by clocker@9 June 2004 - 22:00
I'm feeling especially frisky this evening.
no no no, jigawats!
Your right. I know how its supposed to sound. Just didn't type it right. :frusty:Quote:
Originally posted by Duffman3@10 June 2004 - 06:54
no no no, jigawats!
are you sure it was 1.21? i know how he says it, where he repeasts it like he can't beleive it, and 1.21 doesn't seem to sound right...Quote:
Originally posted by Virtualbody1234@10 June 2004 - 00:20
1.21 gigawatts?
Yup its 1.21 jigawatts.
Listen -> http://www.angelfire.com/retro/bttf/jigawatts.wav
How does it not sound right? one point twenty one jigawats.
lol, ok.Quote:
Originally posted by Tormentor@10 June 2004 - 10:07
How does it not sound right? one point twenty one jigawats.
i was reading it wrong, makes sense as "one point twenty one jigawatts"
but i was reading it this morning as "one point two one jigawatts", shich as you can see sounds wrong...
:lol:
What has happened here?
Sprocket's thread has morphed into a Back To the Future trivia quiz.
Hhrrrummph.
*sigh*
Back on topic.
Included with the new Abit mobo was a little device called "Serielle" which converts a PATA HDD to run off the SATA header. I had been so preoccupied with the HSF dilemma that I ignored it till this morning.
The unit plugs into the standard IDE cable header on the drive and accepts a SATA cable on the other end. It also requires power from a floppy-style power connector.
Ah-ha, thought I, what a great opportunity to get rid of a clunky IDE cable ( mine are the ultra-hip rounded ones, but still...) and use the new, uber-sexy SATA cables that have been mouldering away in their plastic bags for so long. This could really make cleaning up the cable clutter easier.
Of course, no real instructions were included with this little wonder and I was left to my own devices to figure out the installation requirements.
It has been a real learning experience.
Clever sprat that I are, I figured that I would load the SATA drivers from the mobo CD before I did the conversion.
OK.
Then I entered BIOS and switched the boot order to have S-ATA HDD as the second boot device.
All my ducks being neatly lined up, I powered down and installed the Serielle device.
I must admit to feeling quite a glow when I had it all wired in place...SATA beats IDE hands down in the clutter department. Very sleek install.
Power up...."Error reading boot device".
Huh?
Turns out , you have to load the drivers in DOS also...which requires a floppy...which of course I don't have.
Well, I do now.
Hours of fumbling about and ranting and raving ( my speciality is hardware...I'm a complete know-nothing when it comes to software)finally I have it working.
The guys down at my local shop had never actually installed this device, they always went IDE, so I was the guinea pig for them.
The question was- would there be a performance difference using this Serielle thingie?
Basically, no.
Not better, not worse.
Stands to reason, really.
It's a PATA device after all, so just running through the SATA controller shouldn't make much difference.
And it doesn't.
But...
There is no performance loss either, so the biggest difference is the cabling.
Which, to my way of thinking, is worth the extra hassle.
Now, for the sixty four million dollar question.
I have two optical drives.
Currently they are running as master and slave on IDE1.
Is there any advantage to running them both as masters on individual IDE headers?
Any thoughts, class?
no ideas, but it's great that it makes less clutter. can't type much now, im gonna be late for school :lol:
Absolutely. Do it.Quote:
Is there any advantage to running them both as masters on individual IDE headers?
Myself, I would not bother really.Quote:
Originally posted by clocker@11 June 2004 - 01:01
I have two optical drives.
Currently they are running as master and slave on IDE1.
Is there any advantage to running them both as masters on individual IDE headers?
Sure you may get a tiny bit of performance increase, but on what? a mere optical drive...so what?
In my opinion it would not be worth the extra clutter from a whole nother IDE cable.
Just my opinion, but if you do not mind the extra clutter, go to er!
I considered that option when I got my SATA drive, but decided having only one IDE cable was better than the marginal speed increase on the odd occasion (if ever) that I would use both optical drives together.
clocker i'd suggest you dont waste your time on this crappy project
i've been following along on this little tweaking journey of urs and found it to be an utter waste of my reading time
I admire your enthusiasm in hardware but I'd say it's a pretty good excise for you if you dont have a job and has done every bit of house work you can ever think of :lol:
You had a pretty good run with the Zalman water cooling solution and the results seemed promising but not sure why u abandoned that plan (too lazy to go back and read AGAIN)
the improvised plan seemed awkward and untidy with all the fans sticking out of the most unusual places, namely, the video card cooling fan, effectively blocking all potential PCI upgrading space. and the combined noise from all 8 of ur fans I can only imagine to be loud and out of place.
The whole design, overall, can only be described as oddly creative, suiting to your personality, I suppose. But who can beat the originality of your creative thoughts and design?
A good effort though, my applauds to you. :)
So don't read it then.Quote:
Originally posted by james_bond_rulez@11 June 2004 - 10:40
... found it to be an utter waste of my reading time
Its easy to talk, but I don't see your efforts here. If you cannot respect peoples projects, then STFU.
Clocker is doing something not just criticizing.
coming from you I am hardly offended. I am simply exercising my first amendment of the Constitution, which is freedom of speech. If you can't allow criticisms then why bother being an admin moderating the forum at all? Just delete all the posts as you wish.
JBR, I couldn't agree with you less regarding the fans thing.
I've been a little dubious myself since I haven't gone to the same amount of trouble as clocker, but the last few days have convinced me.
Recent hot weather has caused me problems with my secondary (air cooled) pc, basically freezing for no apparent reason. Unfortunately since it is running Linux and I haven't yet worked out how to do it I haven't got any temp monitors, and by the time I've noticed that it has hung the temps (in bios) have been reasonable.
I decided to do a little investigating, it didn't take much to find that my hd temp was way above normal (probably approaching 60C from the feel of it) even though it has a twin fan hd cooler attached. Note, this hd was in my other pc until I got the SATA unit a couple of months ago, and there were no noticable temp problems.
Removing the cover has brought the hd temp down to around 30C. Admittedly air temp has dropped by about 10C, but that still leaves a 20C temp difference yet there seems to be plenty of airflow through the case, and the exhaust air with the cover on was not particularly warm.
The ONLY conclusion is that the hd cooler is simply recirculating the same air over and over, with the airstream from the input fan to the exhaust fan totally bypassing the hd.
I think this is where clocker's fan experiments have shown their worth, I will now be trying similar tests, I can't help feeling that a couple of carefully placed fans will totally change the characteristics of the case, even running at only 7v and therefore virtually silent.
so are you saying that average consumers need to learn all these "tweakings" now to have their computers working propery, because summer is coming?
Manufacturers dont just build the components to "fuck up" just because customers dont know how to learn all the fancy ways to install fans in their computers. Sure, you can go to FutureShop and buy yourself a fancy computer at an overpriced cost and they expect you to come back with computer problems and they say to your face, "I am sorry, we can't take your computer back because you didn't take the nessary steps to cool down your computer"
it's rather silly, really.
Most people on these pages build their own pc's. They buy a generic case which has moint points for a number of fans, but since they don't know what is going to be put inside they give you NO guidance on fan placement etc.
That's a little different from buying a ready-built pc, so if they get the cooling wrong then it is their own fault.
This case didn't have a fan at the front when I first got it, but I wanted it to run a little cooler so that I could overclock. I haven't overclocked yet, but things seem worse than the original layout.
If you think it is silly to try and improve your pc, that's your opinion. But I don't see you putting any effort in here so STFU.
And don't come asking for help if you get any problems yourself, I think you will find it is too much time and effort for anyone to be bothered with you.
More fans and larger ones at slower speeds makes the total sound level drop, not rise. So it you want a quiet PC then this kind of tweaking is the way to go.
In fact... I know for sure that my PC, that has more fans, is way quieter than a prebuilt PC.
That would be the case if this was a forum for USA use only. This is an international board.Quote:
Originally posted by james_bond_rulez@11 June 2004 - 11:20
I am simply exercising my first amendment of the Constitution, which is freedom of speech.
That would be the case if this was a forum for USA use only. This is an international board. [/b][/quote]Quote:
Originally posted by Virtualbody1234+11 June 2004 - 19:15--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Virtualbody1234 @ 11 June 2004 - 19:15)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-james_bond_rulez@11 June 2004 - 11:20
I am simply exercising my first amendment of the Constitution, which is freedom of speech.
I thought he was from Canada anyway. :rolleyes:
Clocker's cases have always been really neat and tidy, except for in "beta stages"...Quote:
Originally posted by james_bond_rulez@11 June 2004 - 11:40
the improvised plan seemed awkward and untidy with all the fans sticking out of the most unusual places, namely, the video card cooling fan, effectively blocking all potential PCI upgrading space. and the combined noise from all 8 of ur fans I can only imagine to be loud and out of place.
If you had been reading his "progress reports" then you would have known that what he is going for right now is silence in his PC. His fans are obviously running at 7v r lower, and i do beleive he has a fan speed controller so some could be higher but i doubt it.
The PCI upgrading space comment, well that one i can agree with you on, but with todays motherboards it is unneeded to update stuff via PCI, although usually if you want extra features form your onboard stuff you will need to buy a PCI card. But for clocker, he knows he is not going to need any PCI cards any time soon, and if he did he could easily just make a new design for cooling the video card.