He had a training ground bust up with the manager.:saga:Quote:
Originally Posted by manker
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He had a training ground bust up with the manager.:saga:Quote:
Originally Posted by manker
You would think that, but the top players get such good deals that Chelski offering more might not actually matter. They are already multi-millionaires, looking at mega bucks contracts, so they can go to the club they want, not the highest bidder.Quote:
Originally Posted by Peerzy
Yes Chelski can probably do the deal with the club, but that does not mean that the player will agree personal terms. The days of treating players like cattle are long gone.
However I think, for Liv'pool fans, anyone would be better than manutd, which may sway him elsewhere (with apologies to metaphors everywhere).
Word has it that Bellamy is having a larf with Newcastle by not going without them giving him contract compensation. Saying that he doesn't want to go and will stay with the boys (not Bhoys) and pick up his ridiculous salary for doing nowt. Which is pissing Souness off, obviously.
Anyway, more importantly, t'Hoops won the Scottish Masters. The big one.
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Originally Posted by JPaul
Yup, first the team has to agree on a price for the player before contract talks can even start, if Gerrard has decided he will not leave for love nor Chelsea's money then the price they offer to club is of no matter because he's gonna reject the contract.
Liverpool have confirmed Chelsea have made a £32 million pound bid for him and have responded by rushing open contract talks (Read: Leaving a message on Stevie G's answer phone) and offered him an extra two years and £100K a week.
Gerrard said he wanted something between 90k-100k but its if this bust up with the boss is not repairable.
To be honest i hope Chelsea sign him, he's a great player and it would mean we would have 3 or the 4 starting midfield for England :01: Ofcourse if Madrid get him it'll be 2 a piece :pinch:
Also Liverpool have signed 3 spanish players, including a new keeper, so even if Gerrard doesn't move to Madrid it looks like he's gonna have to start learning Spanish :lol:
West Ham have just signed the occasionally error prone but undoubtedly talented centre half duo of Gabbidon and Collins from Cardiff, for a combined fee of about £3million.
It's a shame to see them leave but the youth policy at West Ham has always been excellent so at least they'll have ample opportunity to fulfil their potential - it's probably the ideal club for both at this point in their respective careers.
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I simply can't see Man Utd signing Gerrard, I agree with JP. Liverpool players just don't get transferred to us. Also, despite the bluster on Friday, t'glazers won't stump up circa £40million for one player just now.
It might just be a ruse by his agent to put a rocket under Liverpool and get the improved contract. I think he'll stay but if he does go, I reckon it'll be abroad (Madrid).
Gerrard's just turned down £100,000 per week and catagorically stated that he wants to leave.
This is in direct response to Liverpool's turning down of a £32million bid by Chelski. According to the BBC website.
Looks like he's off there, then :(
I think if he's now put in a formal transfer request, then Real Madrid may make an offer..Quote:
Originally Posted by manker
I read that too but think Madrid were hinting at the player simply rejecting a contract, rather than handing in an official transfer request - altho' the Beeb seem to disagree with me.Quote:
Originally Posted by barbarossa
Anyhow, if he hands in a transfer request then he won't be entitled to any loyalty payments. His agent will probably advise against that and we'll be met with a wall of silence or meaningless soundbites from Gerrard until his move is complete.
Mind, my statement a couple of hours ago saying that I thought he'd stay was completely wrong so ... I duno :schnauz:
Well good news for Chelsea fans :01:
After seeing whats happened to Owen and spending all the time on the bench last season i think Gerrard would slightly prefer to stay in the UK. The fact that he brought a house 10 minutes away from the Chelsea training ground is a good sign. Also i think he wants to win the premiership so he has a medel for every UK trophy possble (Bar the Euro Super Cup where they will play CSK Mossco in a month or so's time)
This seems most likely now.Quote:
Originally Posted by Peerzy
He is going, I think we're agreed.
Not to manutd, for financial and rivalry reasons.
Let's face it, if it's the UK it's Chelski.
What about Barca, are they a possibility. Playing alongside some great players and actually getting a game may appeal.
Madrid have their regulars.
Becks gets in the side when fit so, as their Galactico of the summer, I'm sure Gerrard would play just as much, if not more. It's just that the gulf in class is a lot bigger in La Liga so resting the regulars, particularly after a CL expedition, is easier to get away with.
Barca, Juve or Milan could afford him, maybe. Real's finances aren't the best at the moment. It really is only Chelsea who could afford him without batting an eyelid. It's all according where he wants to go. Obviously Liverpool would be more receptive to an overseas bid but Chelsea are clear favourites, atm.
What i ment was that he would get play time at Madrid, everyone knows that but because he's seen Owen he might doubt his chances and because they havn't won anything for 2 years its not really in keeping with his dreams to win more trophy's. He has a far bigger chance of winning the Champions League with Chelsea than Madrid.
Agreed.Quote:
Originally Posted by manker
I only suggest Barca as they are on a bit of a roll just now, La Ligawise and may wish to consolodate this.
Tho' as you say the capital expenditure may be a problem. However if they could spread the debt who knows.
As an aside t'Hoops have now removed the players, as assets, from their books. They reduced it by £8,000,000 a year and the financial year just gone (FYE 30/06) was the last year to get the player / asset value to nil.
This to me is a good thang.
He's already won the Champions League mate, he wants domestic honours.Quote:
Originally Posted by Peerzy
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Originally Posted by JPaul
I know, i ment again. If you think Chelsea have a bigger chance than Real in winning their respected leagues.
Barca are far stronger than Real and the Real team isn't gaining any years.
Just what i think anyways :unsure:
As a purist, I have to disagree :lol:Quote:
Originally Posted by JPaul
However, I didn't know they were doing that. It's pretty difficult, as a plc, to be able to change policy like that. The shareholders usually cause problems and vote against it. Good on them tho' as it will mean that the P&L will be more representative of how the club's doing as a whole.
A few years ago Man Utd were the only quoted English club to be able to represent their players like this, the financial folk o other clubs wanted their liquidity ratios boosted to encourage investmen. Tho' this did change recently - and prior to the Glazing incident come to think of it. Wonder if it's related ... .
Btw, if I had to choose and it couldn't be Man Utd, I'd want him to go to Barca. They'd be awesome.
As a purist accountant or football fan :blink: (Feck I forgot to put the word which in that sentence, maybe she didn't notice)Quote:
Originally Posted by manker
To me not having the players "value" included is more realistic. Tho' I can see why accountants would want to.
Disingenuous bar stewards.
Indeed :shifty:
It appears that Gerrard Stevens is now staying at Liv'pool. According to Rick Parry there was a bit of a misunderstanding, but he has apologised and they are all pals again.
What a fucking geptard :dry:
He's beginning to look like a bit of a nob now... :wacko:Quote:
Originally Posted by JPaul
Hoi, arsey, i'm just joining in.Quote:
Originally Posted by barbarossa
Chelski, having apparently failed in getting Gerrard Stevens are now in for Seanright Phillips. With an offer of £22 million. Or at least so rumour would have us believe.
He's a cracking wee player but I'm not sure he's worth that much, yet. Methinks Chelski may feel obliged to sign a name, whether they need one or not.
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Originally Posted by JPaul
We've been linked to him for about 3 weeks now having had an £18 mill bid rejected a bit ago. I think no matter if Gerrard came or not we were gonna go for him anyway.
Looks like Crespo will be out main striker next season, some Roman a bit of pocket change i suppose.
Although the only thing im starting to worry is that with Robben, Cole and SWP (If we sign him) fighting out for the right wing position (Duff taking up the left) it means someones going to be getting alot less game time :pinch:
Probably but even he doesn't want to be there, and he's already a Chelski player :crazy:Quote:
Originally Posted by Peerzy
Wright Phillips has said repeatedly that he wants to stay with Man City (of all places). Not saying hew wont go - what with teh blue shite being in massive amounts of debt, thanks to Keegan.
Ranieri never had this trouble. He did seem to be rather less competent, tho'.
I think that word's got out that Mourinho is an arse - he may be an excellent manager who gets results but his people skills are obviously teh pits.
Bellamy to Blackburn for a fee of just under £5 million and is going for a medical.
The Mark Hughes link would make sense.
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Originally Posted by manker
Yeah with Man City in massive ammounts of debt Chelsea know any bid over £20 mill would be too good to turn down seeing as Man City could pick up someone who's at least half decent and still have alot of money left over.
I never really saw Crespo when he was with us, maybe now we have a better team who can feed him all the chances he wants he'll do good, unlike Drogba.
The reason he doesn't want to be here is because he had such a good season at Milan and doesn't want to have a bad season. So if Chelsea produce the goods and help him create chances and have a good season im sure he won't mind.
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Also Figo to the scousers, they've agree'd personal contract terms but now Real want £2 million for him.
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Just noticed we've been linked with a £54 million bid for Ronaldhino.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/foot...pe/4659663.stm
According to that we've agree'd personal terms and the deal is set to do but no word for Chelsea yet.
Crespo has never struck me as an awesome centre forward, he seems a bit awkward sometimes. He did struggle a bit with injury and that when Ranieri bought him but maybe all he needs is a run in the side. He always scores against Man Utd :dry:
That figure doesn't seem enough for Ronaldinho - doesn't he have a £100million buy out clause or something? I seem to remember that after Kenyon (probably on purpose) fucked up United's proposed transfer for him, the papers were saying that United's chance had gone and Barca had written that clause into his contract :unsure:
As I recall it was a £90 million clause, but let's not quibble over £10 million here or there.
However wasn't that in the days when transfer fees were even more mental, particliarly at the top end. Plus he was a bit younger with more of his contract to run.
The China Daily Report
which appears to be the most up to date.
The Scotsman
a couple of hours older.
Indeed, what's £10million.
Talking of mental transfer fees; I read yesterday that Harry Redknap has told Liverpool that they'll have to pay £8million for Peter Crouch. They probably will too :D
You really are a big fan of young Crouch.
Is his name / stature a sort of twisted oxymoron.
http://skysports.planetfootball.com/...=football_home
£100 Mill sell out clause according to SkySports, and Chelsea are set to meet it as he's not settling well following a fall out with some Barca officials.
Nice :D butim not sure even he is worth £100 mill.
It's an instruction for when he walks through a doorway, I always thought... :huh:Quote:
Originally Posted by JPaul
Feck's sake! Chelski are thought to be in the process of putting together an £83million bid for Ronaldinho :ohmy:
http://newsvote.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/...ea/4667041.stm
Last I read Barca were offering a further 5 year contract, with the buy out clause up to £150,000,000.
However that was yesterday, so old news in the sphere of off season puntsphere dealings. (What a dashed fine sentence that was, go me.)
Ronaldinho is said to be unsettled and pissed that a very close friend of his got fired about a month ago from Barce, so he's gone all :snooty: Hopefully Chelsea buy him, even if we fail the £83 mill bid we'll just grab him for £100 mill.
Like Roman losing a fiver :D
Italian team Roma have been chucked out of Seria A for fraud claims.
http://uk.sports.yahoo.com/050709/3/c6z0.html
feck sake.Quote:
Originally Posted by Peerzy
it appears to be Torino, but still, feck sake.
I thought it said Roma :huh:
Word in teh papers say that Barce have offered Ronaldinho £300,000 a week for 5 years to stay. If i was Fergi i wouldn't let Rio Ferdinand see that :lol:
Also Liverpool are interested in Gallas, but fecks chance there getting him.
Milan have said Chelsea can have Shevchenko for £60 mill, which suprises me, cause Chelsea had a £57 mill offer turned down a bit back. If it's true i can see them going for him instead of Ronaldinho.
More talk of Neimi going to the Bhoys.
The papers today are nuts. Saying that Chelski are going to sign everyone and that they've already signed Essien :blink:
This thread > Tabloids :snooty:
Strachan has said there would be another 2 signings.
Niemi and the lad Nakamura would be good, but I still think the back four needs strengthening. Particularly if Strachan may want to play 3 up front, as is rumoured.