Do you own a gun?

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Originally Posted by Busyman

I am not willing to sacrifice me or my families life for a "more likely to commit murder" ideal which, personally, I have no desire for.

If an intruder comes then I want the best possible chance of survival besides "begging" for me or my families' life.

The what can happen if I simply own a gun outweighs the what can happen if I don't.

The way I view intruders is that one can't be sure as to what his intentions are. It seems that the more liberal attitude is to not be concerned about this and take a more passive approach if problems arise. You cannot attach normalcy to abnormal circumstances.

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As I said earlier it's an attitude thing. Not just between you and I, but between our countries.

The normal reason for an attack on your home is to steal things. If the choice is between me having to make an insurance claim and taking a human life, any human life, then I'll make the claim. If necessary, yes I will beg rather than kill someone.

To be honest I think that home gun ownership leads to more violence. The thief who would otherwise carry a club or knife needs the gun, because you have one. he cannot afford to face you with your gun unless he has one himself.

So you can afford and have guns, causing casual burglars to do the same. Making things more dangerous for everyone, including those who do not wish to have them.

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Originally Posted by cpt_azad

Yes. Several to be in fact. We got a lot of hunting rifles, oh those stupid deer.

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I can't wait for the day the deer get guns too :ph34r:

I would suggest that everyone with a gun would use it once.. to shoot them selves . It would be the end of plenty tragedies :naughty:

People that think they need to have a gun to be save are just plain stupid
As long as there are people like yourself to use arms to defend whatever they think is defending/taking worth you never be safe....
Your just crawling around in vicious circles there boys... time for a shrink. maybe that makes your views more clear.

people with guns are just insecure... they're pretty much the same probably that needs penis enlargement pills, to think they're man enough

do i need to go on...

;)

Ah yes, the diplomatic approach.

Never fails.

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Originally Posted by Agrajag

yes I will beg rather than kill someone.

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That passive attitude pretty much sums it up there.

Btw burglars here know folks aren't armed and still kill them.

I recall two horrible cases, one in DC and one in Maryland.

DC - 4 people killed at a Starbuck coffee shop. They were robbed and shot execution style.

MD - 3 people killed at a Dunkin Donuts. Same deal.

....and those were places of business.....

I'm not here to rationalize a criminals mindset. Many times, for criminals, it's about power.

Your quote is all I needed and can't add anymore to it. :(

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Originally Posted by SnnY

Ah yes, the diplomatic approach.

Never fails.

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...and sometimes the SWAT Team must go in......

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Originally Posted by Busyman

Your quote is all I needed and can't add anymore to it. :(

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As does your's, you would rather take another person's life than beg for mercy.

Says all I need to know and confirms our entirely different attitudes toward things.

I prefer my way, but I am a Christian and don't really have an option in this matter.

i clicked other because
i made a gun out of a thick metal tube
i used gun powder from fireworks
and the fuse

loaded it with a 6inch nail that is wrapped with celetape to fit the barrel tightly
it was very powerful (when used too much gun powder)
nail went thru the skate board (i was testing it on) & straight thru my dads shed

i will always look back now and say "i was insane back in the days"

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Originally Posted by Agrajag

As does your's, you would rather take another person's life than beg for mercy.

Says all I need to know and confirms our entirely different attitudes toward things.

I prefer my way, but I am a Christian and don't really have an option in this matter.

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A lay down and die attitude...... :unsure:

I can't really afford that passiveness with kids.

This attitude goes past the gun scope (pun?).

I am a pensioner. I dont own a gun. I am not frightened. It is against the law to carry a gun in this country. Therefore if anyone is found to be carrying a gun it inevitably ends up with a jail sentence for the offender. This is reassuring.

The only gun crimes in this area recently have been drug related. One drug dealer shooting another drug dealer. As long as this continues and no one innocent gets hurt, I am quite happy. :)

I do know people who have a baseball a bat sitting near the front door. This intrigues me because I never see anyone playing baseball in this area. :blink:

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Originally Posted by Busyman

A lay down and die attitude...... :unsure:

I can't really afford that passiveness with kids.

This attitude goes past the gun scope (pun?).

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You can't afford the attitude you do have, as you are their role model.

You appear to think that your personal dignity is more important than another person's life. That's just twisted.

I have said that I would do anything to defend my family and that is the case. Shooting another person is simply not my first option. If there were any way to deal with a situation which did not involve violence then I would take it. If however there were no other way then I would resort to it, but only as much as was needed.

I have made that pretty clear to anyone who took the time to read my posts and not just select one sentence from each to quote back.

I remain of the opinion that you and others having guns has made matters worse. I remain of the opinion that if you try to use the gun or aim it at someone then you will just make the situation worse.