What Trackers Are Worth [With Reviews and Ratings]

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Originally Posted by KennyX

BMTV has added 3000 users since I signed up and might go as high as 6000 new users. Down to level two!

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lol. added 3000 users, but I'm pretty sure few hundreads of them will be banned within the next week. Also BitmeTV used to have 23k users around Christmas and then it was still the same level :rolleyes: Since Christmas they have lost 3k users, so doesn't that mean that it should have gone up 2 levels or what? But now that they basically got back these 3k users they should go down to lvl 2. That's just idiotic ( as is this whole thread but I just couldnt resist to post.)

Good points. I am not too sure that they lost members, more like they disabled them. They finally stopped at around four thousand members added and probably half them will be disabled shortly, but in a months time plenty will have made PU and will be here trading their invites.

The key words were 'open signup'. If you read all this thread I did say in a previous post that I thought that any site that opened signups to five hundred or more members should automatically go down to level two.

Its only been a few hours since I signed up and I have made 8gb upload of the 65gb needed. I expect plenty of others will be buffering accounts to get invites to trade.

well i would say 95% of trackers in the WTAW thread despise account trading and FST dont give a fuck

I remember when this was the k-lite forums, it was actually busier and more friendly than it is now.

and you bring up trading seedboxes RS acccounts, Usenet accounts, Money. they are all fucking wrong for every tracker.

And i have already brought in the argument why trading buffered accounts is wrong in another thread.

Rape the site clean with lots of hit and runs, and trade for another one.

I cant believe you stooped to bring that argument into it.

may as well just call this thread.

WYTIWCTOTAHMYCG (What Your Tracker Is Worth Comapared To Other Trackers And How Much You Can Get)

this is as bad as any site on the net that allows selling the things, because the price comes from this one thread. and im sure this is the original, if people follows this one, im sure if FST changed it, it wouldnt take long for others to change as well.

So your arguments are bollocks and FST is bollocks.

If i can have BCG taken off i want it taking off. because i did not give permision for it to be on in the first place.

I have just deleted our review, so i would like us removed and no more reviews for us put on here.

because without a review we cant be on, and i dont give permision, but oh wait there, FST dont give a fuck about that either.

and yes it is SPU and above only, and thats where members should get into other trackers from, on other trackers invite forums, not a free for all like FST ffs.

PS: I made the review to show members of FST what we were about when we were closed, not for the WTAW thread.

I never post in this thread but I felt to because I agree with everything stoi just said. :mellow:

EDIT: That means +1 in the local lingo. :dry:

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Originally Posted by lovejj

cant believe it~~

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Cheaters/traders will not believe to when they get their accs disabled.

Idk why staff did this, just saw the news minutes ago but BitMeTV will be always the best TV Tracker.

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Originally Posted by KennyX

BMTV has added 3000 users since I signed up and might go as high as 6000 new users. Down to level two!

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comletely agree and i was also thinking it deserves level 2 now ...

they've had 100% open signups going allowing THOUSANDS upon thousands of new users to bumrush the site...

i'm not sure the exact #'s but its in the neighborhood of 6,000 to 7,000 new people ...

B.M.T.V == LEVEL 2

No, maintain his level, I am planning trade my dupe accounts, lowering his level will ruin my plans.
Shit.

I just have to ask, for example, if anyone here now would trade, for example they're hdbits acc for *higher level* bitmetv, assuming you like both content.

"Unlisted Trackers ••••••••••

iPwn[5]"

Isn't it dead? I mean, was always dead but now seems that is a public announcement.

Bitmetv LEVEL2 yessss...why do they open signups hell..

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Originally Posted by stoi

and you bring up trading seedboxes RS acccounts, Usenet accounts, Money. they are all fucking wrong for every tracker.

And i have already brought in the argument why trading buffered accounts is wrong in another thread.

Rape the site clean with lots of hit and runs, and trade for another one.

I cant believe you stooped to bring that argument into it.

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I never made any arguments. All I did was point out that people on FST have offered to trade all sorts of stuff for accounts and people selling accounts on ebay or any of a dozen other sites is very common knowledge. Its simple supply and demand that determines value, and this is what you just dont seem to get.

Buffered accounts, this is your opinion and its sad that I have to point this out, but people who trade don't care what stoi thinks about this in any way. I would also argue, and this is an actual point of argument, that buffered accounts and HnR's are not related the way you think. I never saw the thread where you made this argument about this or I would have pointed out why I think you are wrong.

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Originally Posted by stoi

may as well just call this thread.

WYTIWCTOTAHMYCG (What Your Tracker Is Worth Comapared To Other Trackers And How Much You Can Get)

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Or we could call it WTAW:IYDLITFO,ASSTT (what trackers are worth: if you dont like it then **** off, and stop spamming this thread). Its sort of ironic that I have seen an actual thread listing the cash value you can expect to pay for tracker invites.

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Originally Posted by stoi

So your arguments are bollocks and FST is bollocks.

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So you think FST is bollocks? I dont think I have misquoted you so the obvious question is why are you still here?


Raban, I think you are right and it has been close to 7,000 people in to B.M.T.V in the open signups. B.M.T.V to level 2.

yes FSt is bollocks and its members like you that make it bollocks.

and i have just as much right to say things against this thread as you have sucking up to this thread, so no i wont stop spamming it untill they get rid of the fucking thing, happy now.

Don't let some of the FST users get to you stoi ... they aren't all like that.

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Originally Posted by kevinsert

Bitmetv LEVEL2 yessss...why do they open signups hell..

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Sorry, but was it actually dropped down, 'cause I see its still 5 now, I really can't imagine leaving it at 5, or putting it back as such.

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Originally Posted by stoi

yes FSt is bollocks and its members like you that make it bollocks.

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Originally Posted by stoi

and i have just as much right to say things against this thread as you have sucking up to this thread, so no i wont stop spamming it untill they get rid of the fucking thing, happy now.

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Indeed you do have the right, unless the forum mods think you are making unproductive posts in this thread of course. Anyway, happy spamming because the WTAW thread is here to stay.

you will see the light one of these days.

how many good members of trackers, join here, get carried away with the rep system, and this thread, and end up loosing all their accounts.

and then the trackers get blamed, sheesh, wake up its not the trackers fault.

I can't see it happening any time soon, but maybe, just maybe some of you will realise that tracker staff like stoi and myself are actually trying to help you.
I can only speak for myself I suppose but I don't post advice in the BT section in an attempt to battle against anyone.

I genuinely take time out of helping you (The BT users) elsewhere to try and help over here.
You are bloody lucky to have people like stoi, and other staffers around.

The fact that you abuse what we spend a lot of our time doing out of the good of our hearts (for free) will eventually drive us away.
You may think you're all very smart, but you are only acting selfishly.
What's more FST allow you to abuse our kindness and give you their blessing. That stinks.

You can argue all day, but we are not trying to be morally superior, we are trying to protect your interests, maintain a good quality service (which is fucking free) as well as keeping you as secure as we can.

This thread goes against all of that. Fuck this thread and fuck the people that think it's ok.

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Originally Posted by benchez

I can't see it happening any time soon, but maybe, just maybe some of you will realise that tracker staff like stoi and myself are actually trying to help you.
I can only speak for myself I suppose but I don't post advice in the BT section in an attempt to battle against anyone.

I genuinely take time out of helping you (The BT users) elsewhere to try and help over here.
You are bloody lucky to have people like stoi, and other staffers around.

The fact that you abuse what we spend a lot of our time doing out of the good of our hearts (for free) will eventually drive us away.
You may think you're all very smart, but you are only acting selfishly.
What's more FST allow you to abuse our kindness and give you their blessing. That stinks.

You can argue all day, but we are not trying to be morally superior, we are trying to protect your interests, maintain a good quality service (which is fucking free) as well as keeping you as secure as we can.

This thread goes against all of that. Fuck this thread and fuck the people that think it's ok.

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Here here :D:D:D

/me wonders how much time and effort some members here spend finding out how much effort and time is put into running a tracker, even a small one that only has a few members.
Well I can not answer for other site peeps but we put literally hours and hours in every week.
What do we get out of these hours and hours spent is a good question, well some please, heart ache and in my case a divorce. Some times I spend over 12 hrs a day at me pc watching various things and then come to threads like this and for members of here having ago at a site owner who is trying to protect his site and members coz of this topic.
If there was not one single topic like this on the net sites would not have a value and be posted on place like ebay for invite and account sales.

Would I be out of order in pointing out that the whole concept of filesharing is sharing files.

As such there shouldn't be any worth (he probably means value but that's semantics) placed upon anything. It should be a case of sharing what you have with others and trust they will do the same. However no questions asked, real sharers provide the files and their time, with no expectation of a return other than the occasional "thanks for that".

As soon as someone puts a worth (or value) on anything then they are talking about commerciality, which is exactly the opposite of sharing. It's what sharers are against.

How can people talk about filesharing and talk about that at the same time, it's madness. Unless of course you have an agenda, to split the community apart. Divide and conquer, that would make sense.

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Originally Posted by Agrajag

Would I be out of order in pointing out that the whole concept of filesharing is sharing files.

As such there shouldn't be any worth (he probably means value but that's semantics) placed upon anything. It should be a case of sharing what you have with others and trust they will do the same. However no questions asked, real sharers provide the files and their time, with no expectation of a return other than the occasional "thanks for that".

As soon as someone puts a worth (or value) on anything then they are talking about commerciality, which is exactly the opposite of sharing. It's what sharers are against.

How can people talk about filesharing and talk about that at the same time, it's madness. Unless of course you have an agenda, to split the community apart. Divide and conquer, that would make sense.

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If trackers are more valuable, people have to know, n00bs can't just join in.commerciality is a predectable and acceptable aspect.

Yes it is about sharing but there also needs to be a security element, which this thread does damage too.
A lot of sites these days ban people for uploading what they got from them to other sites which is also imho opinion damaging those sites as it means it harder for the smaller sites to get stuff up so quick and this would then take some attention off them.
But that is just my opinion as I don't need to use other sites uploads for me own site and do not have any problems if people upload stuff from us to any other site as long as they follow our seeding rules :D

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Originally Posted by flamers

If trackers are more valuable, people have to know, n00bs can't just join in.commerciality is a predectable and acceptable aspect.

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You missed the point. They aren't valuable. The value is implied right here. There is none. It is entirely imagined.

If the levels were based on quality rather than rarity it might be a different matter.

Well, even the best linux apps tracker is probably gonna be lvl 2, because noone wants it, but it would have a 10 for content rating, seems fine.

But I think most lvl 2-3s do in fact have better performing alternatives at higher levels.

Content ratings would still imply a value, and some sights would be sought over others. Perhaps BCG would be level 10 instead of whatever it is not based on difficulty of getting into the tracker, but it would still be some people's "dream" because of that level.

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Originally Posted by integral

Content ratings would still imply a value, and some sights would be sought over others. Perhaps BCG would be level 10 instead of whatever it is not based on difficulty of getting into the tracker, but it would still be some people's "dream" because of that level.

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So even if a tracker is actually better content-wise, its bad to give the suggestion of aiming for it.....

when we were lvl 4 and closed and exclusive, members wanted us for the rarity, when we went down to lvl 2, they didnt want us anymore, even some members that had been with us from the start.

I got a few PMs saying ewww, we are not exclusive anymore, we went from lvl 4 down to lvl 2, i dont want to be a member anymore cya.

content was still the same, probably even better, but because the E-Penis side had gone, members left.

Personally i couldnt work that one out myself lol, but this is just one of the things this thread does.

whether we like it or not, its bad for the bittorrent community and the trackers themselves.

i just cant see any good in this at all.

People say its to help traders, and thats the only good of it, but i dont even think it helps them, i think it hinders them in a big way, just because a tracker is lvl 7-10 in this list, does not make it any good, or any better than a 1-3 tracker, they are probably worse actually.

and if getting rid of this thread means that members can get back to trading for what they want, not just whats hard to get into, and they may not like, then all the better as far as im concerned.

look at BitmeTV they just opened, members are saying, why the hell did they open, they are going to be down to lvl 2.

SO FUCK, who cares, they are still the same tracker for gods sake.

rarity has just taken over everything else. and its just wrong, and i cant see how anyone can argue any different, the 1 thing that is not imprtant at all, is now, the 1 and only thing that is important.

This topic is also probably why some new sites get flammed down when they are mentioned here. I will admit some do start up with little knowledge and have very little content when they post about the tracker and should spend some time getting it to a level where they would join and use the site them selves by getting in friends etc and building it up a bit 1st.
I never mentioned GTi on here till it was a yr old and as far as I am concerned it is now running quiet well has a good enough user base that is quiet active.
I am on a lot of trackers where friends are either staff or owners that are as good in the community stakes as any of the top trackers, staff and owner may not be quiet so knowledgable or experienced as some of the hi level trackers.

So I cannot understand why people say they want x or y tracker for the community when they have no or very little knowledge of what it is really like.
If these people spent some time checking new smaller sites out they might find a good home for there needs and boost that tracker and make it better by getting there friends there as well.

P.S. stoi u want me make a campaign to get BCG to lvl 1 :lol:

I tried to get it down to lvl 1, but we sort of stuck at lvl 2, only way we will get to lvl 1 is if we opened all the time, the problem is we have been lvl 4 before, so lots of members make dupe accounts, just incase we do close again and rise the ranks again.

This is [part] of the reason i am letting users have referals, i was going to give everyone 100 of the things, and totally flood the market with them but changed my mind, but users still get them.

you have to be a member for 6 months, have the badge of honour (no hit and runs) 0.7 actual ratio (what you have acctually uploaded), 25 completed torrents in your history, and not Kitty Litter to get these, but even if thats only 10,000 members, thats still 50,000 of these things floating about in the system. but class means nothing in these, if a SPu has only been there 12 weeks, he still has to wait another 12 to get them.

and hopefully members are more careful with who they give them to, because they acctually get bonuses and even promotions if they bring in good members.

I know a lot will be sold, or put on here as trades and giveaways, im not that naive, but if there referers fuck up, we may see them stop doing that, because they cant get any bonuses for bringing them in like that.

and lets face it, everyone likes their ratio, and promotions to higher ranks, even though it does not really mean sod all on most trackers. they still like it.

all im trying to do here, is help newbies and some oldies out that think this thread is the be all and end all of what trackers are worth, its not, and as soon as more members realise this, the better.

Now that that trades and give aways are seperate may be another option is make it so people have to have been here for a yr and have say 250 posts to access the trade section then they cannot view this topic but unable to trade that way people new to torrenting may not get involved with trading so quickly and may know more about the whole torrenting life rather than just be in a want,want,want mode for high lvl trackers.
I do know this site covers a lot of things and changing the rules may upset some members but I think it is worth looking into :)

ftwr must be lvl 7 now :P

lol, f*** gonna stay :p

hey, bitmetv down, finally, no more scam trades.

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Originally Posted by nikita

ftwr must be lvl 7 now :P

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u are talking backwords..
f*** should stay where it is ..lol

why skittles, ETN,IFI, HPJ, WDMA III and more are not in this thread?

cuz noone knows it :P

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Originally Posted by lolier

why skittles, ETN,IFI, whirled peas and more are not in this thread?

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lol @ the whirled peas part. if someone makes proper reviews the trackers can be added to the list.

Nvm -.-

Is it true that SCT quit giving invites for donators ?
If that's the case, I think it'd be far more difficult to get.

:eyebrows: Don't u guys think some trackers should go up to higher levels?:shifty:

Like....HDBits or else.

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Originally Posted by binocular

:eyebrows: Don't u guys think some trackers should go up to higher levels?:shifty:

Like....HDBits or else.

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hdbits has really been lvl 4 for awhile, plus now closed invites....:whistling.

does anyone really think it shouldn't be higher atleast 1.