Do you own a gun?

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Originally Posted by manker

An intelligent burglar may weigh up the risk and decide that when faced with a desperate man weilding a gun, rather than scurry to the gun cabinet, unlock the cabinet, unlock the gun, load the gun, aim and finally fire - you'd just say 'Take what you want'.

Okay, you might have concealed gun cabinets in the six corners of your house too and piles of throwing stars scattered around but he's already got his weapon prepared, it could be that he'll have you pegged as a fairly normal kind of a guy, rather than one who would go to life threatening risks to safeguard his material possessions.

My opinion only, of course.

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Take what you want? Including maybe your life. :dry:

j2 wtf? You've got 6 corners of guns and stars scattered around? WTF is wrong with you....you could stub your toe. :ohmy:

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Originally Posted by MCHeshPants420

When was our last one?

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Originally Posted by vidcc
I would like to point out that even the UK has shooting rampages every now and then.

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Hungerford and that guy that went into the school with a handgun a few years back spring to mind. Jpaul pointed out that it is not a daily event but things do happen You do also have "gang related" shootings.
Lets not be ignorant of each others problems. The UK does have a limited gun problem, it is just fortunate to not be ANYWHERE near the problem we have in the USA and this IMO has a lot to do with the laws and availability regarding munitions.
The Uk does have a limited gun problem but it is limited because of the general attitude towards gun ownership.

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Originally Posted by Busyman

Take what you want? Including maybe your life. :dry:

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Why would he shoot me and steal my stuff when he could just steal my stuff.

That doesn't make sense, but then I'm not a paranoid gun owner.

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Originally Posted by SnnY

Their gun-toting-maniac per capita-ratio is still smaller than yours.

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Obviously so since you can't carry guns. DUH.

What is your maniac per capita ratio?

Nevertheless we will have more murders since there is way more population.

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Originally Posted by Busyman

Obviously so since you can't carry guns. DUH.

What is your maniac per capita ratio?

Nevertheless we will have more murders since there is way more population.

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Yes, but it would appear that compared to my country, or the UK, you have more murders percentage-wise, which is the important bit.

I'm sure every country in the world has their fair share of maniacs, but I'll take the ones without firearms if I have the choice.

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Originally Posted by Busyman

Your population also pales in comparison to the US. :dry:

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60 million is not much compared to 200 million but compare the size of the UK to USA

and statitics i've seen are measured in percentage so the population size is irrelevent.

and to top it off i don't even know why you said that

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Originally Posted by vidcc

Hungerford and that guy that went into the school with a handgun a few years back spring to mind. Jpaul pointed out that it is not a daily event but things do happen You do also have "gang related" shootings.
Lets not be ignorant of each others problems. The UK does have a limited gun problem, it is just fortunate to not be ANYWHERE near the problem we have in the USA and this IMO has a lot to do with the laws and availability regarding munitions.
The Uk does have a limited gun problem but it is limited because of the general attitude towards gun ownership.

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The gangland bit wasn't your original point, it is a problem but my point to you (and a genuine objection to the wording of your post) was that shooting rampages don't happen "every now and then" that indicates a greater frequency than the actual truth tells. Hungerford happened 18 years ago for instance and Dunblane was nearly 10 years ago...

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Originally Posted by manker

Why would he shoot me and steal my stuff when he could just steal my stuff.

That doesn't make sense, but then I'm not a paranoid gun owner.

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Oh my goodness....

Because some people are irrational and stupid.

You would think that drug dealers would make their money and not shoot others on street corners, you know, to not draw more attention to their bread and butter....yet they do it.

You would think if someone would just take one's stuff and not kill them that it would mean less importance placed on the crime meaning more likelihood of getting away with it......yet they shoot.

I just realized that it may just really come down to me being more of realist when it comes to the world.

You are making logic out of the irrational and it doesn't work. I've thought about this years ago but came up with logical solutions to an irrational world.

...and it still might not work.

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Originally Posted by vidcc

Hungerford and that guy that went into the school with a handgun a few years back spring to mind. Jpaul pointed out that it is not a daily event but things do happen You do also have "gang related" shootings.
Lets not be ignorant of each others problems. The UK does have a limited gun problem, it is just fortunate to not be ANYWHERE near the problem we have in the USA and this IMO has a lot to do with the laws and availability regarding munitions.
The Uk does have a limited gun problem but it is limited because of the general attitude towards gun ownership.

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thanks :blushing:

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Originally Posted by SnnY

Yes, but it would appear that compared to my country, or the UK, you have more murders percentage-wise, which is the important bit.

I'm sure every country in the world has their fair share of maniacs, but I'll take the ones without firearms if I have the choice.

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Agreed.