Re: A question for the Americans
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Originally Posted by BigBank_Hank
More gun laws wouldn’t solve anything. What needs to happen is better enforcement of the laws that are already in place that no one pays attention to. If no one pays attention to the laws that we already have in place what good would creating more laws do, nothing.
Okaaayyyyy. Maybe I think we need more gun laws 'cause the ones we have aren't enforced. I've that same stuff before.
Whateverthefuck...it needs to be fixed. Actually scratch that...there needs to be oversight on every fucking gun sold here. Fuck this "no background check" crap at gun shows. I'm tire of hearing some fuck job bought a gun and wasn't supposed to be able to have one in the first place.
Parents who don't lock their shit up need mucho jail time. How the fuck does a kid accidentely shoot his brother in the neck and they both are in single digit ages.
These guns aren't even burners ffs. The school shootings weren't burners but registered guns of fucking parents not paying attention to whaterthefuck.
I don't agree with banning guns but what the fuck is the penalty for nonenforcement?
Re: A question for the Americans
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Originally Posted by lynx
Rose, the 1997 Firearms (Amendment) Acts were brought in after the shootings in Hungerford in 1987 where 14 adults were killed by Michael Ryan, and in particular Dunblane in 1996 where 16 children and one teacher died at the hands of Thomas Hamilton.
Both men held weapons legally. However, both men were subsequently shown to be mentally unstable, and if laid down procedures had been properly followed neither would have been allowed by law to keep weapons.
The amendments to the Firearms Acts were a kneejerk reaction by the current government which has done absolutely nothing to prevent the criminal use of firearms, despite this being the main thrust of their proposed aims.
I should point out that both men would have been perfectly entitled to possess firearms in most states in the US.
Edit: prior to 1997 it was possible to possess certain firearms but was supposed to be strictly controlled by license, controlled and inspected by the local police authority. Where I live, these two people would certainly not have held weapons. A police officer who I know was just as rigorously examined as any other member of the public. Clearly, some districts were not as vigilant as they should have been.
That last sounds like Hank's "enforce the laws already on the books."
The amendments sound like Hank's unneeded laws.
Re: A question for the Americans
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Originally Posted by lynx
Rose, the 1997 Firearms (Amendment) Acts were brought in after the shootings in Hungerford in 1987 where 14 adults were killed by Michael Ryan, and in particular Dunblane in 1996 where 16 children and one teacher died at the hands of Thomas Hamilton.
Both men held weapons legally. However, both men were subsequently shown to be mentally unstable, and if laid down procedures had been properly followed neither would have been allowed by law to keep weapons.
The amendments to the Firearms Acts were a kneejerk reaction by the current government which has done absolutely nothing to prevent the criminal use of firearms, despite this being the main thrust of their proposed aims.
I should point out that both men would be perfectly entitled to possess firearms in most states in the US.
Thank you Lynx. I wasn't aware that it was these tragedies that led to these amendments.
Sad to say I have often wondered if firearms were outlawed in the states if it wouldn't be wise to hide one to protect oneself from the ones that would keep theirs to use theirs criminally. Of course, that would defeat the purpose of the law.
Mental illness can happen to anyone at anytime. And the bad thing is we don't seem to always get a good diagnosis until after there has been such a tragedy. And that is also a tragedy in itself.
After I read your edit, Lynx, I will have to say.......there have been a few law enforcement men I have known who I would just as soon didn't have access to guns. :D
Re: A question for the Americans
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Originally Posted by Everose
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Originally Posted by lynx
Rose, the 1997 Firearms (Amendment) Acts were brought in after the shootings in Hungerford in 1987 where 14 adults were killed by Michael Ryan, and in particular Dunblane in 1996 where 16 children and one teacher died at the hands of Thomas Hamilton.
Both men held weapons legally. However, both men were subsequently shown to be mentally unstable, and if laid down procedures had been properly followed neither would have been allowed by law to keep weapons.
The amendments to the Firearms Acts were a kneejerk reaction by the current government which has done absolutely nothing to prevent the criminal use of firearms, despite this being the main thrust of their proposed aims.
I should point out that both men would be perfectly entitled to possess firearms in most states in the US.
Thank you Lynx. I wasn't aware that it was these tragedies that led to these amendments.
Sad to say I have often wondered if firearms were outlawed in the states if it wouldn't be wise to hide one to protect oneself from the ones that would keep theirs to use theirs criminally. Of course, that would defeat the purpose of the law.
Mental illness can happen to anyone at anytime. And the bad thing is we don't seem to always get a good diagnosis until after there has been such a tragedy. And that is also a tragedy in itself.
The problem is people blame guns. Mental illness hits someone else and he murders 13 at a hospital by injecting bodily harm.
If it ain't one thing, it's another.
Tbh, if guns were outlawed here, I'd have a burner or two tucked away for when and if I needed it. It'd be damn hard to practice my shooting though.:unsure: I know a number of people that had it not been for a gun, they'd be dead. One in particular, was attacked in his home by a man with a knife and was stabbed in his stomach and thigh but was able to get to his gun and shot the attacker. Ironically, the attacker didn't die but I don't remember where the attacker was shot.
Re: A question for the Americans
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Originally Posted by Busyman
The problem is people blame guns. Mental illness hits someone else and he murders 13 at a hospital by injecting bodily harm.
If it ain't one thing, it's another.
Tbh, if guns were outlawed here, I'd have a burner or two tucked away for when and if I needed it. It'd be damn hard to practice my shooting though.:unsure: I know a number of people that had it not been for a gun, they'd be dead. One in particular, was attacked in his home by a man with a knife and was stabbed in his stomach and thigh but was able to get to his gun and shot the attacker. Ironically, the attacker didn't die but I don't remember where the attacker was shot.
:lol: You have hit the nail on the head about tucking away a gun, Busy. I had just wondered that if I did tuck a gun away at last minute, how would I learn to shoot it, and therefore, would it do me any good? Although I think I could figure out how to hold it and give a calm, but determined mean look at someone so they would at least think I knew my business!!!!
Well, what the hell. I will be dead before I decide whether to learn to shoot a gun or not. :D
Re: A question for the Americans
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Originally Posted by Everose
BigBank_Hank.....I keep looking at your picture of crawfish. :blink: Do you let people come to your parties and just drink beer and dance? :D
Absolutely, but you don’t know what you’re missing.
I forgot to mention the part where you break the crawfish in half and suck the head because that’s where the most flavorful part is.
Re: A question for the Americans
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Originally Posted by BigBank_Hank
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Originally Posted by Everose
BigBank_Hank.....I keep looking at your picture of crawfish. :blink: Do you let people come to your parties and just drink beer and dance? :D
Absolutely, but you don’t know what you’re missing.
suck the head because that’s where the most flavorful part is.
:sick:
Re: A question for the Americans
Well thanks again for the added info,my boy took his project in and got some excellent comments on the variety of stuff,its an ongoing thing so I'll print the piccys up and send him in with the pro's and con's of guns.
What are the statistics for Gunshops being robbed?
One of the main rules over here in the UK for gun ownership is you must have a gun safe,which must be fixed to a firm point,where the weapons are then kept when not being used or cleaned,so no hiding them under your pillow or anywhere little hands could get them.
Re: A question for the Americans
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Originally Posted by BigBank_Hank
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Originally Posted by Everose
BigBank_Hank.....I keep looking at your picture of crawfish. :blink: Do you let people come to your parties and just drink beer and dance? :D
Absolutely, but you don’t know what you’re missing.
I forgot to mention the part where you break the crawfish in half and suck the head because that’s where the most flavorful part is.
I know they must be good, surely, because people continue to eat them. What it boils down to is I just.......well, I don't have to at this point so I won't.:D Do you have Rocky Mountain Oysters down there? I won't eat them either. ;)
Gripper, I cannot answer your questions,, but I am sure someone knows those rules. I do know responsible gun owners keep their guns unloaded and locked up in a cabinet. I have never been in a gun shop, not sure there is one like Vid showed a picture of in my area.
Re: A question for the Americans
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Originally Posted by BigBank_Hank
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Originally Posted by Everose
BigBank_Hank.....I keep looking at your picture of crawfish. :blink: Do you let people come to your parties and just drink beer and dance? :D
Absolutely, but you don’t know what you’re missing.
I forgot to mention the part where you break the crawfish in half and suck the head because that’s where the most flavorful part is.
The crawfish are cooked,so I imagine they're like big prawns?
I'd love to try them,sounds great.
