Should BT sites block entire Regions?

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10-12-2007, 08:43 PM
fOrUmAs

Re: Should BT sites block entire Regions?

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Originally Posted by SliDer5

Like TB, WB of Middle East etc.
What do you think?

I think that this is wrong,if some cheaters from some country cheat that ban that ip,but not the whole country...there is other ways to deal with them.;)
10-12-2007, 08:47 PM
blackbird

Re: Should BT sites block entire Regions?

nop ..!

i think staff who ban the whole country are too lazy to filter individual ip's :|
10-12-2007, 09:07 PM
Polarbear

Re: Should BT sites block entire Regions?

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Originally Posted by rvt

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Originally Posted by SliDer5

banning it not about cheaters today, mostly of Ddos attacks, and there are a perfect solutions for that.

Yes, it's called null routing.
20,000 IPs from one country give you crap, null route the country. DDOS over, site back up.

Of course you can always drop only the troublesome IPs, but it's going to cost you a fortune. Why should the tracker owners pay for that, especially if they don't get enough donations to pay for it?

can you blackhole filter a whole country?

edit: ok, there may be databases that tell you which ips belong to the country
10-13-2007, 11:42 AM
rvt

Re: Should BT sites block entire Regions?

Yep, it's possible.

BMTV had to blackhole Brazil recently due to a massive DDOS.
Using geoip lite, the number of IP ranges for brazil is somewhere around 400. A decent DDOS will use a minimum of a few thousand IPs.
The country ban is a hell of a lot easier to implement in a crisis than a ban of only the relevant IPs.
10-13-2007, 11:46 AM
Polarbear

Re: Should BT sites block entire Regions?

those poor beautiful brazilian girls :cry:
10-13-2007, 11:52 AM
briand5379

Re: Should BT sites block entire Regions?

You can ban a country all you want but if someone really wants to get into your site they'll find a way.
10-13-2007, 02:58 PM
rvt

Re: Should BT sites block entire Regions?

They may find a way to access the site, but DDOS is reduced to nothing when running through proxies :P
10-13-2007, 03:04 PM
kirktrix

Re: Should BT sites block entire Regions?

Quote:

Originally Posted by SliDer5

Like TB, WB of Middle East etc.
What do you think?

Unfair....;)
10-13-2007, 03:37 PM
pro267

Re: Should BT sites block entire Regions?

I'm against any sort of collective punishment.

If we're talking about cheaters - banning of individual accounts can be done automatically, and doesn't require staff intervention (banning the whining idiots from IRC is easy as well).
If we're talking about DDOS attacks - a temporary routing solution can be implemented. DDOS attacks usually won't last for more than a few hours/days at most.
10-13-2007, 03:41 PM
SliDer5

Re: Should BT sites block entire Regions?

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Originally Posted by pro267

I'm against any sort of collective punishment.

If we're talking about cheaters - banning of individual accounts can be done automatically, and doesn't require staff intervention (banning the whining idiots from IRC is easy as well).
If we're talking about DDOS attacks - a temporary routing solution can be implemented. DDOS attacks usually won't last for more than a few hours/days at most.

there are better solution for DDos, check out Oink for instance:happy:

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