No way, the Olympic flame has been going for like forever.Quote:
Originally Posted by 4play
Like the Marathon and all the other really good Olympic stuff.
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No way, the Olympic flame has been going for like forever.Quote:
Originally Posted by 4play
Like the Marathon and all the other really good Olympic stuff.
I don't think any part of this sorry tour de farce is funny and I never said I did.Quote:
Originally Posted by manicgeek
Actually the discussion in all the newspapers this morning was about the behaviour of the police, not the protestors who in the end didn't hurt a soul.
I beg to differ - I thought the plod leaping off his bike was class. :glag:Quote:
Originally Posted by SqueamousI don't think any part of this sorry tour de farce is funny and I never said I did.Quote:
Originally Posted by manicgeek
Actually the discussion in all the newspapers this morning was the behaviour of the police, not the protestors who in the end didn't hurt a soul.
Well now you mention it :shifty:.
Yeah I suspect the Chinese thought it was class as well, although they have different motives for thinking so...Quote:
Originally Posted by Biggles
And who unfortunately, due to some thugs, have achieved absolutely nothing for the people of Tibet... no greater publicity or recognition of their plight... not even a spotlight turned onto the behaviour of the Chinese state...Quote:
Originally Posted by Squeamous
I'm surprised that the protesters themselves aren't angry at the thugs, I would be.
i don't think you understand protests then, the more you protest about things, the more people take notice, the more you can get things changed.
maybe you should look up the meaning of protesting in the dictionary, then decide if the protesters or the olympic torch carriers have had the worst publicity over the last two days.
Well, that's the theory anyway.Quote:
Originally Posted by Alien5
Yeah right... so many more people now know about how badly China treats the people of Tibet don't they ? And they gained that knowledge from watching people and reading about people attack a western person carrying a torch that represents fairness to all competitors...Quote:
Originally Posted by Alien5
If you are seriously arguing that the only way to protest is to attack people then you obviously don't understand what the word protest means... it damned sure as hell doesn't mean assault <- You can look that one up if you like.
I didn't see any thugs. Evidently your definition is different to mine.Quote:
Originally Posted by manicgeekAnd who unfortunately, due to some thugs, have achieved absolutely nothing for the people of Tibet... no greater publicity or recognition of their plight... not even a spotlight turned onto the behaviour of the Chinese state...Quote:
Originally Posted by Squeamous
I'm surprised that the protesters themselves aren't angry at the thugs, I would be.
The word 'thug' implies a destructive ignorant/indiscriminate force, which the Olympics protestors certainly were not. I can only assume you're using this term to stimulate debate and rile people. Well, one out of two ain't bad.Quote:
The English word thug, meaning a violent criminal, comes from the Hindi word thag (and originally from the Sanskrit word sthaga), meaning a thief or villain.
I'm not sure how you can assume that the protests have done nothing for Tibet MG. As a scholar of history you should know that small events build into more cohesive protests and can effect change decades down the line. You have a very short-sighted approach to civil unrest.
As to the world's media spotlight and what it's on, it's on the protests against China, which is exactly what the protestors wanted.