And yet again a reminder PLEASE READ!!!!!

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Originally Posted by Disme

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Originally Posted by apextwin146

So how did u get into BitHumen then :huh: ...

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I said I don't like the fact people do public GA's and give invites to peeps they don't know at all (except for a lousy ratio-proof and speedtest) ... I didn't say I never applied for a public GA, hell knows I got a fair number of trackers from a public GA.
I just say I would never ever do a public GA ... and trading or public GA's are basically the same in terms of consequences for the inviter/invitee/tracker.

If you saw my BT-rep you'd see I have done 3 in the past ... one for a tracker that was open-signup :frusty: and two for an easily accessible one.
They date from some time now and I saw really fast public GA's weren't my thing.

Basically I think someone doing a lot of public GA's isn't my first choice when I decide to handout an invite.

Hope you understand better what I was trying to explain. :happy:

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Quoted for undeniable proof of hypocrisy
Did u even read what you have written .. You equate Public GA's to trading on one hand and the other you openly admitt that you got a good number of them through same thing ..
Does it make sense?
Atleast give back to the community from which you have got your fair share ..
But if u r saying that Public GA are dangerous as you never knw what ur invitee would do with it then thats a different topic ..
Remember you cannot clap with one hand .. You cant just say that they are bad and then participate in it ..
Though i totally inderstand your point that you wud never indulge in Public GA of your own as its a bit too risky for you ; it depends from person to person and there is nothing wrong with that .. But somewhere down the line you would have to take the risk :naughty: ..

This has nothing to do with hypochrisy ... I applied in public GA's ... yes ... and the inviter/tracker was lucky I got the invite :)

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Originally Posted by apextwin146

But if u r saying that Public GA are dangerous as you never knw what ur invitee would do with it then thats a different topic

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That is the only thing I meant to say ... and don't worry ... I have been given more to this community than you know (but you don't because I don't show of any rep) and nobody needs to know who I have invited and where.

Public GA to unknow peeps form the same problem for a tracker/inviter/invitee ... who just joined your tracker/who you invited/you don't know who invited you.

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Originally Posted by Disme

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Originally Posted by puckface

But, I wonder why I dont see these same people going to the giveaway section and getting all high and mighty there? I mean, giveaways to people you dont know are "forbidden" and "against tracker rules"

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Who said invite GA's to unknown people are supported by everyone ... I don't like trading and I don't like public invite GA's ... they are all about the same to me.

I'm not a fanatic anti-this or anti-that ... but I won't give an invite of mine to people I don't like, that's all.

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Dude, Im not picking on anyone, especially you. But as I said in my post, I find it finny as all hell that people find trading abhorrent but giveaways are cool.

Hating traders is just fashionable, and people are ridiculous with the whole mob mentality. Thats my point.

I knew i could not stay quiet for long lol

OK this is only MY opinion, not BCG, or my staffs or any other trackers out there.

Giveaways and trading are both good and bad, it all depends where and how it is done.

A: You have been a member of a tracker for awhile, you get to know members, IRC/Forums, even have them on MSN etc.

You get an Invite for another site, you give it to one of those members you know and have been chatting to.

Giveaways like hat are fine

B: Trading. Same as above, but you get talking to your friend, he has an invite for a site you want to get in, and you have an invite for a one he wants to get it.

Trading like that is fine.

C: You come to a public forum, or any invite forum for that matter, you giveaway an invite to someone you have no idea who the hell he is, he may have just been banned 20 minutes ago on that same tracker, and im sure if they have just been banned, the staff dont want to see him again, even with another nickname and email and IP, because sooner or later he will get found out.

D: same as above, but you trade the Invite, same scenario, you dont know them how on earth can you trust them to be a good member, you may get links to their profiles, they may be a good member on 3-5 sites, so you think, ok i can trust them, but they may have been banned from 20+ sites and you have no bloody idea.

E: Account trading is bad for A : B : C : D and just should not be done full stop.

Also traders will tend to just lurk in the shadows, seed and leech but never take part in the community, now i hear a lot of members on here say, Trackers are for Files, I have other places for the Community, but in all seriosness if we did not have a good community or it was completely dead, It would not be worth my while to run the site, to me the Community is more important than the tracker, after all you can get most of the files elsewhere anyway.

PS: I absolutely detest FST Giveaway and Trade Sections, as well as the WTAW thread.

But i have tried my best to change it, but they are just going to change the WTO and leave the WTAW the way it is (as far as i can understand anyway) so whats the point.

I have argued till i am blue in the face, and its still done no frigging good, so whatever, time for others to take up the mantle now, I give up fighting a loosing cause.

PPS: the reason you see so much hatred, is believe it or not, the members that are flaming traders, actually care about their trackers, 99% of traders could not give a shit about them.

trolling/flaming traders gives you 'anti-trader' cred. so then, you're good to go when you make a request with hopes that a stranger will fulfill it.

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Originally Posted by stoi

the members that are flaming traders, actually care about their trackers, 99% of traders could not give a shit about them.

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what does caring abt a tracker entail?

On a related note (another warning), it probably makes sense to look out for people who advertise a trade, but close the thread so nobody can comment, and who ask you to "send first" but then never respond after you suggest a middleman - red flag!!! Of course I'm not talking about anybody in particular...*cough* +: ) *cough* :)

This thread is really worth reading . It involved all sorts of thoughts . I liked Stoi's post . It's simple and well organized . I also wanna ask , why keep the Trading and the WTAW sections ? if these sections are gone , FST will be much better , a lot of scum ( who doesn't care about FST ) will simply leave . I think that you guys ( FST staff members ) should consider removing the trading section and that useless WTAW thread . Anyways Good Luck :)

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Originally Posted by apextwin146

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Originally Posted by stoi

the members that are flaming traders, actually care about their trackers, 99% of traders could not give a shit about them.

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what does caring abt a tracker entail?

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I don't know what stoi meant (I'm not inhis head), but caring for a tracker is basically being genuinly interested in a tracker ... having some friends on a tracker, being active on a tracker.
Caring about what kind of members are part of the tracker so you know it is safe for you to post things you might not post on a public tracker. Being able to download/seed things, without major concerns for your safety, because not every nitwit can join the tracker in question and the tracker staff care for their members too.

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Originally Posted by DeathAngel

I think that you guys ( FST staff members ) should consider removing the trading section and that useless WTAW thread.

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that's been pushed for years; it's not going to happen anytime soon, unfortunately