How would "You" get good members

we all know thats true.. but, lets stick to the topic

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Originally Posted by stoi

There have been a few posts on here about Invites and traders etc etc, so this is your chance to put the world to rights on this.

Put yourself in the position of a tracker owner/staffer that spends most of his/her day checking on members, for cheaters etc.

Now also take into consideration the following.

1: Giveaways

People that do giveawys on public forums, very well might be bringing in a member that the tracker banned 6 months before, you also have no clue who they are, and even ratios and profiles on other sites, can be misleading.

2: Trades

Same as above, they are not doing it for the good of the site, but because they want something in return.

3: Selling

I think everyone agrees this is wrong

4: Cheaters

get lots of cheaters coming in.

5: Hit and Runners

gets lots of hit and runners

6: opening up

See all points above but also dupe accounts, sign up hit and run, get banned, change IP sign up again, rinse and repeat over and over again.

7: Security.

most trackers want security for themselves and for their members, like our members getting letters from their ISP is best avoided at all costs, Security is not just about security of the staff ans the owners.

Remember this is not about just getting as many members as possible, this is about getting 99% good members into the tracker, but lots of them (if that is even possible lol)

So just for 10 minutes, put yourself into a tracker staffers shoes, even the hardcore traders and cheaters, and lets hear some answers, this is just for curiosity purposes, but you may come up with some ideas no tracker staffer has ever come up with.

And staying closed for eternity is not an answer, this is about getting members, but bloody good ones.

at the end of the day, all tracker staff want are good decent members, is that to much to ask in this day and age.

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Heres what little or no tracker staff will understand. There is going to be good users and bad users no matter what system they implement, no matter how many or little invites they give out. There is NOTHING you can do to stop it short of removing invites altogether. Every tracker should just give every user a set number of invites depending on how big they want the tracker to get, and let them use them. Then ban accordingly. Sure, an invite giveaway has a possibility of bringing in a very bad user, but it could also bring in an excellent user that would have otherwise not had the chance to join. My 2 cents.

Well regarding getting them from other trackers and a decent cheat script.

How do you know they are not cheating their ass off on that site, just to get to PU to get into those invite forums to get somewhere else.

They then get on a site that takes cheating a lot more serious, they cheat straight away again to get to a higher class to get into another site (lvls again) but this time they get caught.

So not only have you brought in a cheater, but him and you will probably get a global ban from most trackers out there.

Like i have said on numerous occasions, just because they are a good member of tracker A (or look like one) does not mean they are actually a good member.

We have VIPs that are those that go above and beyond what they should do on the tracker, we have 30,000 members, we have 13 VIPs, and some of those are X-Staff, so that just goes to show how hard it is to get a good member.

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Originally Posted by Adam1990

Heres what little or no tracker staff will understand. There is going to be good users and bad users no matter what system they implement, no matter how many or little invites they give out. There is NOTHING you can do to stop it short of removing invites altogether. Every tracker should just give every user a set number of invites depending on how big they want the tracker to get, and let them use them. Then ban accordingly. Sure, an invite giveaway has a possibility of bringing in a very bad user, but it could also bring in an excellent user that would have otherwise not had the chance to join. My 2 cents.

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little or no tracker staff will understand?? who do ya think started the thread?? and there have been a couple other tracker staff(from diferrent trackers) responding as well.. lol.. they know better than anyone, what the deal is... the question was what would you do/suggest to slow/curb or stop the insanity....

you just need a good, powerful group of moderators to supervise the members and be involved in the right places to catch the traders / account sellers.

But see stoi, that is what cabalo and i are trying to say....make it personal. Don't chose recruiters based on any sort of user class, and in turn the recruiters also don't go out and judge based on tracker status

Ok but to me that is fine if you are happy with 20 new members a month, but that would drive me batty lol for me i would need about 600 recruiters lol

Would you rather have 20 active, respectable users per month or 595 members who dont give a shit, and 5 who do?

a good recruiter doesn't recruit from a solo place.
it's his "job" to scour several sites looking for the potentially good ones.
It would be up to you to adjust the level of "pickyness" they would have to use.

if a recruiter achieves a 70% success rate, it would be excellent in my books.
success meaning = traders or cheaters ( i don't go as far as immediately active members, as i know for my own experience that some times i take quite some time to start leeching from a site).

about this, how did the experiment with that giveaway of blue_skies went? if i'm allowed to ask ?

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Originally Posted by stoi

Ok but to me that is fine if you are happy with 20 new members a month, but that would drive me batty lol for me i would need about 600 recruiters lol

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lmao :01: