I just simply have to ask.. The latest fiasco in the Med. Sea (Turks & IDF soldiers)

Seriously, you listen to WAY too much talk radio. Your posts are almost verbatim transcripts of any generic talker.

The link Torrent posted by Beck started with Beck complaining that "you won't see this on the "other stations" and he wondered why. Except that it was shown on every station (you see Beck is telling fibs). And Torrent wants us to take the rest seriously.

You are fine with bias, as long as it fits your worldview.

Why are you leaving AZ? I thought you'd be part of the "buycott"

These videos clearly speak towards the Israeli version of this story http://goo.gl/XCko

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These videos clearly speak towards the Israeli version of this story http://goo.gl/XCko

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That's one of the better summations of the "video evidence", thanks for the link. Seems that fake acorn pimp guy is not the only one with video editing software.

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With the released videos carefully edited to portray competing narratives of victim and aggressor, it remains unclear who initiated the violence.

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That's one of the better summations of the "video evidence", thanks for the link. Seems that fake acorn pimp guy is not the only one with video editing software.

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With the released videos carefully edited to portray competing narratives of victim and aggressor, it remains unclear who initiated the violence.

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you're that typical anti-Israel guy, no matter what evidence you'll get, either it doesn't prove anything or its edited or i don't know what.
Hence, i'm ceasing my participation in this debate, cuz its a waste of time.

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That's one of the better summations of the "video evidence", thanks for the link. Seems that fake acorn pimp guy is not the only one with video editing software.

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you're that typical anti-Israel guy, no matter what evidence you'll get, either it doesn't prove anything or its edited or i don't know what.
Hence, i'm ceasing my participation in this debate, cuz its a waste of time.

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You are a typical pro Israel guy who supports every action without question, no matter the evidence, and when any inconvenient question is put forth resorts to calling the questioner anti Israel or "with the terrorists" instead of actually answering. A tactic common to your ilk when you lack a coherent response.

Actually I'm totally disinterested in taking either side. I am with number 9 on the USA remaining neutral (except he says he's neutral while taking the Israeli side). I simply pointed to an opinion in a link that I agree with- that BOTH SIDES have released EDITED video to make their case. Apparently agreeing with this fact makes me anti Israel.

I already stated

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Israel has a right to exist and to defend itself, this doesn't mean that it should be taken for granted that they are always or even mostly acting justly or in self defense. The same applies to the Palestinians or anyone else for that matter

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A simple video to explain the whole situation
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A simple video to explain the whole situation
[YOUTUBE]FOGG_osOoVg[/YOUTUBE]

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Thanks for the link, call me weird but I prefer getting my explanations about international events not from a youtube music video.

Turks was very disrespectful in the Davos, it was unacceptable.

But attacking an unarmed ship in international waters? This isn't disrespectful, this is illegal.

Video was just a joke, in such low quality even my granny can edit that video, what they can pay for a helicopter strike but they can't buy a average camera?
Also there was only few minutes...who knows what happened before that events?

And lets don't forgot the fact that all of the eye witnesses wasn't turks, there were people from other nations that said there was no arms in the ship.

If you prefer to get your facts from the news then sorry to say but they are not so credible. before saying they where innocent peace activists get your fact's right! these people were payed terrorists with links to al-queda in the past. Unarmed i suppose the soldiers hit them self's with mettle rods :\.... You my friend are seriously outdated and misinformed

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If you prefer to get your facts from the news then sorry to say but they are not so credible. before saying they where innocent peace activists get your fact's right! these people were payed terrorists with links to al-queda in the past. Unarmed i suppose the soldiers hit them self's with mettle rods :\.... You my friend are seriously outdated and misinformed

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Genius.

The news is biased to a point that it is not worth watching, so you fall back on youtube as a credible inlet. No irony there at all... :whistling

I'm not saying all news is bias and this did start out as a youtube video but on a Israeli political site http://www.latma.co.il/ made to show the situation in a more truthful point of view !