Hoi Art

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Originally Posted by Artemis

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Originally Posted by mjmacky

North America has the originally named opossum. The down under ones were mislabeled as possums by a confused botanist, i.e. posers.
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You also pronounce Aluminium 'aloominum' which I find exceedingly spastic, and half the population cannot complete the word vehicle without an inordinate pause in the middle, so of all the cultures currently mangling the english language, the award for running it through a meatgrinder in reverse definitely goes to the merkins. :naughty:

Actually I always wanted to ask a merkin how they pronounced Duralium since they struggle so with Aluminium, or less obscure but in the same family, Magnesium?

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You're on about pronunciation, but you do realize the spelling also changes, right? It's full on written out aluminum here. Both variants followed after alumium failed to stick, all derived from alumina, which was a shiny metal substance. It was originally named aluminum, but then somebody bitched about it not being in line with how the new alkali and alkaline earth metals were being spelled. So what the rest of the world has is the spelling of a fussy, whiny, conformist bitch, and we get the original. All the others don't have duality spellings, so that should answer your other question.

Can you bitch about Mo, Pt, & Ta?

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Originally Posted by Artemis

You also pronounce Aluminium 'aloominum' which I find exceedingly spastic, and half the population cannot complete the word vehicle without an inordinate pause in the middle, so of all the cultures currently mangling the english language, the award for running it through a meatgrinder in reverse definitely goes to the merkins. :naughty:

Actually I always wanted to ask a merkin how they pronounced Duralium since they struggle so with Aluminium, or less obscure but in the same family, Magnesium?

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You're on about pronunciation, but you do realize the spelling also changes, right? It's full on written out aluminum here. Both variants followed after alumium failed to stick, all derived from alumina, which was a shiny metal substance. It was originally named aluminum, but then somebody bitched about it not being in line with how the new alkali and alkaline earth metals were being spelled. So what the rest of the world has is the spelling of a fussy, whiny, conformist bitch, and we get the original. All the others don't have duality spellings, so that should answer your other question.

Can you bitch about Mo, Pt, & Ta?

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The research I have done into the etymology paints quite a different picture since Aluminium was official discovered by Hans Christian Oestered in Denmark in 1825 and called Alumine. It changed 3 more times till 1829 when it was named Aluminium because of it's mineral status after the German chemist Fredrich Wohler isolated Oestered's discovery.

The -ium was dropped in 1925 by the American Chemical Society to create the word aluminum, while the rest of the world that didn't get the memo tends to think you sound retarded when you speak like that. :blink:

Can't this be better settled as gentlemen with you two Indian wrestling for it?
Obviously nightowl will film the contest and the result will be posted on youtube in 1080p.

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Originally Posted by Artemis

The research I have done into the etymology paints quite a different picture since Aluminium was official discovered by Hans Christian Oestered in Denmark in 1825 and called Alumine. It changed 3 more times till 1829 when it was named Aluminium because of it's mineral status after the German chemist Fredrich Wohler isolated Oestered's discovery.

The -ium was dropped in 1925 by the American Chemical Society to create the word aluminum, while the rest of the world that didn't get the memo tends to think you sound retarded when you speak like that. :blink:

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Originally Posted by IdolEyes787

Can't this be better settled as gentlemen with you two Indian wrestling for it?
Obviously nightowl will film the contest and the result will be posted on youtube in 1080p.

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Not only do I know what you are babbling about, I actually used to Indian wrestle back in the dark ages. Isn't pink handbags at 10 paces the way these things are sorted out any more? :blink:

Mine's leathery brown on account of me being a very unpretty girl.

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Originally Posted by Artemis

The research I have done into the etymology paints quite a different picture since Aluminium was official discovered by Hans Christian Oestered in Denmark in 1825 and called Alumine. It changed 3 more times till 1829 when it was named Aluminium because of it's mineral status after the German chemist Fredrich Wohler isolated Oestered's discovery.

The -ium was dropped in 1925 by the American Chemical Society to create the word aluminum, while the rest of the world that didn't get the memo tends to think you sound retarded when you speak like that. :blink:

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Now I know you are pedantic so I will repeat myself slowly, clearly and completely this time (for brevity I lumped three names together including Davy's naming).

A timeline of the names of 'Aluminium'

1. In 1761, Louis-Bernard Guyton de Morveau a French chemist isolated 'Aluminium' for the first time and called his discovery 'Alumine'
2. Humphry Davy a Cornish chemist and inventor is credited with renaming 'Alumine' to 'Aluminum' in 1807 (from whence comes your english document).
3. 'Aluminium' was 'officially' discovered by Hans Christian Oestered in Denmark in 1825 as 'Aluminum'
4. This was altered to 'Aluminium' in 1827 two years later when the German chemist Friedrich Wohler isolated the chemical in Oestered's discovery.

In theory the story for the whole of the scientific world would have stayed the same if not a hundred years later with a stroke of it's mighty pen, the American Chemical Society decided it's members needed to sound more jaunty, have a point of difference from other delegates, or someone who just really didn't have enough to do came up with this exciting idea.


Which makes you sound like spastics. :blink:












A footnote:

At no point in any of this was an American in any way involved, until 98 years after the fact, in 1925, when they randomly decided to rename a commonly used element of the periodic table.

I agree. Let's all refer to gold as aurum from now on, as none of you fuckers should be allowed to change shit around.

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Originally Posted by Artemis

A timeline of the names of 'Aluminium'

1. In 1761, Louis-Bernard Guyton de Morveau a French chemist isolated 'Aluminium' for the first time and called his discovery 'Alumine'
2. Humphry Davy a Cornish chemist and inventor is credited with renaming 'Alumine' to 'Aluminum' in 1807 (from whence comes your english document).
3. 'Aluminium' was 'officially' discovered by Hans Christian Oestered in Denmark in 1825 as 'Aluminum'
4. This was altered to 'Aluminium' in 1827 two years later when the German chemist Friedrich Wohler isolated the chemical in Oestered's discovery.

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This is all in order, I had put it up because you acknowledged no earlier use of aluminum before 1925 in your original presentation. As far as I recall, the ACS switch to Aluminum had to do with the decided spelling in our dictionaries. Nowadays, most major journals (e.g. JACS, obviously, ECS, Talanta) and vendors use Aluminum (e.g. Sigma-Aldrich), so it comes across as a bit archaic when someone says aluminium among chemists. Chemists being the only people that matter when it comes to elemental nomenclature :sly:

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Originally Posted by ckrit

I agree. Let's all refer to gold as aurum from now on, as none of you fuckers should be allowed to change shit around.

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I personally want to change sulphur back to brimstone to not offend the theological amongst us. :naughty: