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08-10-2004, 03:34 PM
Snee

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@10 August 2004 - 12:19
I thought it was a he? :huh:

Get your facts straight before answering man!

a bloke with a handbag :blink:

dunno 'man' I never watched it , too scary for me :helpsmile:

anyway I don't wanna ruin your thread, just ignore me ;)

You aren't ruining anything.

Are you sure you don't have an opinion tho'?

No matter how simple or confusing I don't mind reading it.

I'm trying to sort out exactly what to think about the thing myself.

I will have to ponder it a bit myself before giving my opinion :) [/b][/quote]
Excatly how long are we talking about here? :unsure:
08-10-2004, 07:53 PM
Snee

Anyone else have a thought on this? :unsure:

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If you could copy the information in your brain to a harddrive, and swap bodies...

and so forth, would there be a point to it, or would "you" just be dead?

and would it be different if you had had that hard-drive in you head as long as you could remember, so the copy had always been there as much as the information in your head?

And would you want to copy yourself if you were about to die?
08-10-2004, 08:04 PM
ck-uk

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And would you want to copy yourself if you were about to die?

if my memories,mind,awareness of my self was there ..i would!!
08-10-2004, 08:08 PM
Snee

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Originally posted by ck-uk@10 August 2004 - 22:05

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And would you want to copy yourself if you were about to die?

if my memories,mind,awareness of my self was there ..i would!!

Do you think you'd still be the person you were then, or just a copy?

Would the person you are be dead, or would he continue in a new body? maybe even just a thing?
08-10-2004, 08:09 PM
MicroScreen2

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Originally posted by SnnY@10 August 2004 - 19:54
Anyone else have a thought on this? :unsure:

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If you could copy the information in your brain to a harddrive, and swap bodies...

and so forth, would there be a point to it, or would "you" just be dead?

and would it be different if you had had that hard-drive in you head as long as you could remember, so the copy had always been there as much as the information in your head?

And would you want to copy yourself if you were about to die?

would your brain not be more comparable to a huge amount of ram, or a huge cache at least?
08-10-2004, 08:11 PM
Snee

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Originally posted by MicroScreen2+10 August 2004 - 22:10--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (MicroScreen2 @ 10 August 2004 - 22:10)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-SnnY@10 August 2004 - 19:54
Anyone else have a thought on this? :unsure:

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If you could copy the information in your brain to a harddrive, and swap bodies...

and so forth, would there be a point to it, or would "you" just be dead?

and would it be different if you had had that hard-drive in you head as long as you could remember, so the copy had always been there as much as the information in your head?

And would you want to copy yourself if you were about to die?

would your brain not be more comparable to a huge amount of ram, or a huge cache at least? [/b][/quote]
I think it's a more permanent form of storage than just ram, but it's true that if the brain doesn't get any energy it stops running.

But I think our memories are encoded with a chemical component to it, so I'd probably compare it to a hard-drive still.
08-10-2004, 08:16 PM
ck-uk

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Originally posted by SnnY+10 August 2004 - 21:09--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (SnnY @ 10 August 2004 - 21:09)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-ck-uk@10 August 2004 - 22:05

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And would you want to copy yourself if you were about to die?

if my memories,mind,awareness of my self was there ..i would!!

Do you think you'd still be the person you were then, or just a copy?

Would the person you are be dead, or would he continue in a new body? maybe even just a thing? [/b][/quote]
Mentaly you would be the same person ,just physicly different
08-10-2004, 08:19 PM
Snee

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@10 August 2004 - 22:05

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And would you want to copy yourself if you were about to die?

if my memories,mind,awareness of my self was there ..i would!!

Do you think you'd still be the person you were then, or just a copy?

Would the person you are be dead, or would he continue in a new body? maybe even just a thing?

Mentaly you would be the same person ,just physicly different [/b][/quote]
So you'd have nothing against it then?

But you, the you writing this, wouldn't be there tho', right?
08-10-2004, 08:25 PM
ck-uk

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Originally posted by ck-uk@10 August 2004 - 22:17

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Originally posted by SnnY@10 August 2004 - 21:09
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@10 August 2004 - 22:05

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And would you want to copy yourself if you were about to die?

if my memories,mind,awareness of my self was there ..i would!!

Do you think you'd still be the person you were then, or just a copy?

Would the person you are be dead, or would he continue in a new body? maybe even just a thing?

Mentaly you would be the same person ,just physicly different

So you'd have nothing against it then?

But you, the you writing this, wouldn't be there tho', right? [/b][/quote]
Yeah snny ,i would!!

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But you, the you writing this, wouldn't be there tho', right?

Yes,mental figure,being,will be me!!
08-10-2004, 08:32 PM
manker

Not read this thread in it's entirity yet, to my shame, but I got the gist of it.

I'd say that you are exactly the same person if your brain is recreated, or copied precisely.

Just like if an obese woman loses weight, she's still the same person. Maybe the 'new' body would give her some more confidence but the essence of the person is the same. If an athlete is crippled then he has a different body but is still the same person. Changing the body around the brain or moving the brain to a different body would be interchangable imo - which provided the copying of the brain is exact is doubtless what this is.

If this were proven to be possible I would have no qualms at all about undergoing the procedure - provided the host torso is as perfect as the one I've currently got, of course ;) :rolleyes:

Edit: What if they could copy the brain perfectly so there would be two of you. What then? I wonder what differences would manifest over time.

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