Re: Another litany of wise verbiage...
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Originally Posted by Comic_Peddler
So if you are not a Hollywood heartthrob you are a hillbilly? sheesh....
:lol:
You are being most literal and contrary tonight CP.
( :ph34r: sorry, afternoon)
Re: Another litany of wise verbiage...
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Originally Posted by vidcc
Rat has a point. It's good to be a rich or at least well off American, But not so on minimum wage or in a job that doesn't subsidise your health insurance....those people would see their standard of living rise if they lived under the UK system.
The wealthy or comfortable would see little difference.
If you are working for minimum wage, there are other problems you need to work out first. Such as finishing high school.
Re: Another litany of wise verbiage...
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Originally Posted by Comic_Peddler
I reiterate, I CAN go elsewhere to get items at a cheaper price, nothing is stopping me from doing that..
although it is technically a federal offense importing your drugs from outside is it not ?
Re: Another litany of wise verbiage...
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Originally Posted by j2k4
So: that the term "liberal" is one a Democrat candidate shuns is due to the blandishments of a "conservative" President?
perhaps because he had his own indepentdent agenda that does't fit with what most call liberal politics.
That's only appropriate...
...but what does the fact of the successful "demonization" of the term (especially in light of our left-leaning media) tell you, vid?
Only demonised in the eyes of the right, a scare tactic, you know as well as i that many believe what they are told and don't bother checking facts for themselves
Howard dean who you mention later pointed out a few things that show how the demonising propaganda works.
the dems are not the party that supports gay marriage...they are the party that supports equal rights.
the dems are not the party that supports abortion... they are the party that supports the rights of Americans to make their own choice free from government interference
It tells me the truth will out-if the message can cross that particular threshold intact, it must really sting, huh? :D
why would it sting ?
Once upon a time, Liberalism was a worthy cause/aspiration; it has become that which it purports to abhor, and intolerant into the bargain.
if it has become that which it abhors then it is not liberalism. In which case what is your problem with it?
intollerant how?
If nothing else was proven in this election, it is that the libs better get their shit together as to their assessment of what America is, rather than what they (in all their anointed elitism) think it ought to be, or the current implosion will continue unabated.
What would the point be of changing to suit that which is not ones beliefs?....wouldn't that make us a one party dictatorship? (but voted for)
So as you voted republican you agree with everything they are doing...after all you gave them a mandate to spend spend spend without having the money to pay pay pay
If you think I'm wrong, go ahead and support Howard Dean or his like for DNC chair-keep thinking that 51% of Americans are too stupid or "unenlightened" for words...
I'm afraid to say that's just paranoyer
...and voila!-you'll be in the same situation as now 2-4-8 years down the road, only your minority will be commensurately smaller.
I'll give you a hint as to the problem:
Conservatives don't think liberals are bad people, just somewhat mis-informed.
Liberals believe conservatives are black-hearted, evil, spawn-of-the-Devil.
and just how would you know that? been taken in by propoganda ?
Now, being possessed of a passing familiarity with your humble correspondent, you cannot possibly believe this is true, as I am the prototype conservative, wouldn't you agree? :)
I certainly don't think republicans are as you suggest....you however .....:whistling :lol:
Notice one difference, though:
A Dem deficit will garner no Dem dissent;
rubbish
See?
We Republicans welcome dissent, and regard it as healthy.
substitue "welcome" with "ignore" :whistling
it just seems to me that it's the republicans that run up the defecits, then the "liberals" have to be the "margret thatcher" spooning the medicine.
That last is a refreshing thought; perhaps you've fingered a "winning" issue for your team, huh? :D
I have to write something here for it to let me submit reply
Re: Another litany of wise verbiage...
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Originally Posted by Comic_Peddler
If you are working for minimum wage, there are other problems you need to work out first. Such as finishing high school.
so no high school or college graduate works for minimum wage?????? I am reminded of Reagan when he didn't believe we have homeless in the USA
Re: Another litany of wise verbiage...
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Originally Posted by vidcc
so no high school or college graduate works for minimum wage?????? I am reminded of Reagan when he didn't believe we have homeless in the USA
To be honest, there is something seriously work if you make minimum wage. Hell in this town even Taco Bell pays $8 an hour.
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Originally Posted by NikkiD
I have to agree with RF on a few points here. If I were of average or below average income I would much rather live here in Canada. Canada also has government sponsored health care. For a middle income family in the US, which doesn't have the luxury of healh care benefits from work, or can't afford private insurance, the cost is astronomical. I may have to wait a little longer to see the right doctor here, but I don't have to mortgage my house to do it. Education is more affordable here, although not as cheap as in the UK.
If I were above average income and health care wasn't an issue for me, and education costs were nothing, I would rather live in the US, where citizens are not as penalized for earning money. Here, the more you make the more you pay - in everything. You pay health taxes so those who make less than you can get free health care. You pay higher income taxes so those who make less than you don't have to. You pay higher unemployment benefits, even though most who make good wages are less likely to claim unemployment, you pay more in Canada Pension benefits, even though by the time you retire, there probably won't be any benefits left to give. So yes, if I were rich, I'd rather live in the US where I get to keep a little more of my hard earned money.
We actually pay more taxes to fund government health programs such as these, NikkiD. Insure Kids Now
In my state I have seen American families and immigrant families receive really great health care for around twenty dollars a month per family. From what I have seen of this insurance, in my state, it enables families superior health coverage than I was able to obtain for my children through my work provided insurance policy. So sometimes, health care wise, you are not really penalized for being lower income. :)
Re: Another litany of wise verbiage...
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Originally Posted by Comic_Peddler
To be honest, there is something seriously work if you make minimum wage. Hell in this town even Taco Bell pays $8 an hour.
you need to get out of town a bit more often then.
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Just a tad... I know a couple that would kill for $8 an hour, and one of them has a Degree :rolleyes:
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:vidcc
the dems are not the party that supports gay marriage...they are the party that supports equal rights.
I beg to differ-the democrat political party does indeed support gay marriage; it is the democrat voter who does not, at least in the eleven states where referenda were tested.
Is it your contention that conservatives do not support equal rights? :huh:
