I dont have any need to buy a gun.
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I dont have any need to buy a gun.
I stand corrected :lol:Quote:
Originally Posted by RPerry
I simply cannot add in any significant way to SnnY's excellently presented points as we're on the same page. To presume that you're going to be better in a pressurized situation than a criminal is arrogance in the extreme and I'll give that notion no credence whatsoever.
I take it the hierarchy wrt to shooting folk is Navy Seals, then j2 and Busyman (I've written that as a tie but if that's not acceptable to either then a paintball dual to the emulsion death should separate them and be highly entertaining into the bargain) - and lastly criminals.
The assertion that the US has more idiots than the UK => more homes get burgled is also complete nonsense. When did this happen, I thought our own idiot rate was bad enough but you mean to say there is a country with an even higher proportion of imbeciles.
You get a :lol: for that, j2.
I don't need a gun to protect my home. I have Keiron Dyer and Lee Bowyer as my security.:glare:
;) y i own a fewQuote:
Originally Posted by j2k4
As with 99.999% of UK residents I do not own a gun. Can't say it is something that really ever crosses my mind. I think it would be fair to say I have never felt the desire or need for one. On the whole, I believe this to be a good thing and long may it continue.
Many of the you folks are fishing on shit you know nothing about.
1. A home with merely a sign in the yard saying it has an alarm is less likely to get burglarized. Period. If one of you UK folks move here and decide against putting an alarm in you are more likely get your shit taken than one with an alarm. This is not arguable. :dry:
2. I do not have a problem "screwing up" when it comes to gun locks. You come home from the range, you put the fucking lock on. I don't even keep a clip in and no bullet in chamber. You are fishing merely to satisfy you're ill conceived points.
3. Most of these knuckleheads are shit at shooting. I know since I have hung around them for years (actually was one when I was younger). I have no problem with many of you not wanting to be "held in the clutches" of such mentality. At the same time since you know shit about it, your statements hold as much water as a sieve.
4. There are only 2 points that I agree on with "me UK mites". If a person is willing to target someone regardless of an alarm or owner having a gun then he is packing anyway. If he thinks the owner has a gun then he more likely to shoot if he knows it going in. However, a burglar is just that and is easily scared away and. FFS even a murderer doesn't want to go through alot of shit to kill you. Unarmed folks get killed ALL THE TIME (sometimes in their sleep) so even you guy's liberal passive point holds little water (see my previous home invasion reference).
The other point I agree on is that gun shows should have background checks.
Someone breaks in my house, the police are called. They cut the line, the police are notified.
Where's the "clutch of oppression".
Many of you are pretty passive when it comes to protecting your family. You place your faith in "the burglar most likely won't hurt me" and it sounds rather bitchy. (also stop watching so much TV. we are not all the security guard that is on the floor during a bank robbery and tries to be a hero.)
This may be due to your crime rate over in the UK. However, we have a much higher rate and it is not due to folks merely protecting their homes. :dry: Many of you have honed in on a very miniscule point that has no validity.
Gun-related deaths per 100,000 people in the world's 36 richest countries in 1994 (I'm sure there are probably more up to date figures, but I think this illustrates the point):
United States 14.24
Brazil 12.95
Mexico 12.69
Estonia 12.26
Argentina 8.93
Northern Ireland 6.63
Finland 6.46
Switzerland 5.31
France 5.15
Canada 4.31
Norway 3.82
Austria 3.70
Portugal 3.20
Israel 2.91
Belgium 2.90
Australia 2.65
Slovenia 2.60
Italy 2.44
New Zealand 2.38
Denmark 2.09
Sweden 1.92
Kuwait 1.84
Greece 1.29
Germany 1.24
Hungary 1.11
Republic of Ireland 0.97
Spain 0.78
Netherlands 0.70
Scotland 0.54
England and Wales 0.41
Taiwan 0.37
Singapore 0.21
Mauritius 0.19
Hong Kong 0.14
South Korea 0.12
Japan 0.05
The general trend is more or less in line with rates of gun ownership.
I think I'll stick to a simple "No thanks".
This is not surprising. :dry:Quote:
Originally Posted by lynx
well said as always @busy i love readin your post ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Busyman